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2004-06-24 12:45:00

Compare the trap speeds, not the 1/4 times if you want to compare power... ----- Original Message ----- From: "Hunt M" <5uprah@supras.co.nz> To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List" <sconz@list.supras.org.nz> Sent: Thursday, June 24, 2004 12:36 PM Subject: [sconz] cc's rule - but turbos are better ><blah blah blah drivel>

...and vehicle weight, especially when it comes to Hunt's no-options bare-as
GA70 vs Rob's fully spec'd MA70...

----- Original Message -----
From: "Lachlan Chapman" <Lachlan.Chapman@coel.co.nz>
To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List" <sconz@list.supras.org.nz>
Sent: Thursday, June 24, 2004 12:44 PM
Subject: Re: [sconz] cc's rule - but turbos are better

> Compare the trap speeds, not the 1/4 times if you want to compare power...
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Hunt M" <5uprah@supras.co.nz>
> To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List" <sconz@list.supras.org.nz>
> Sent: Thursday, June 24, 2004 12:36 PM
> Subject: [sconz] cc's rule - but turbos are better
>
>
> ><blah blah blah drivel>
>
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2004-06-24 12:47:00

dads trap speed for the 13.8 was 161.2 - for my 14.04 158.3

fully spec'd???
no ABS - no aero roof - oh wait it has wide body gaurds - ooohh they must
weigh heaps..........

----- Original Message -----
From: "Cully Paterson" <cully@supras.org.nz>
To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List" <sconz@list.supras.org.nz>
Sent: Thursday, June 24, 2004 12:46 PM
Subject: Re: [sconz] cc's rule - but turbos are better

...and vehicle weight, especially when it comes to Hunt's no-options bare-as
GA70 vs Rob's fully spec'd MA70...

----- Original Message -----
From: "Lachlan Chapman" <Lachlan.Chapman@coel.co.nz>
To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List" <sconz@list.supras.org.nz>
Sent: Thursday, June 24, 2004 12:44 PM
Subject: Re: [sconz] cc's rule - but turbos are better

> Compare the trap speeds, not the 1/4 times if you want to compare power...
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Hunt M" <5uprah@supras.co.nz>
> To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List" <sconz@list.supras.org.nz>
> Sent: Thursday, June 24, 2004 12:36 PM
> Subject: [sconz] cc's rule - but turbos are better
>
>
> ><blah blah blah drivel>
>
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>

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2004-06-24 12:50:00

The only substitute for cubic inches is.........CUBIC FEET !
----- Original Message -----
From: Hunt M
To: Supra Club of NZ Mailing List
Sent: Thursday, June 24, 2004 12:36 PM
Subject: [sconz] cc's rule - but turbos are better

Go get a yank tank if you want cubes - there's no substatute for cc's - yes
there is - forced induction :)
Now lets work this out:

13.8 @ 10psi boost from a fully rebuilt 7M with larger T4 compressor wheel
14.04 @ 9psi from a 150 k's on the clock 1G using K26 turbo that has almost
exact same size compressor wheel as a CT26.

0.2 seconds quicker - perhaps its the 1psi of boost - or maybe the fact that
you have half my engine again! :)

My 15.4 cents

Hunt

----- Original Message -----
From: "Suze W" <spite_girl@hotmail.com>
To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List" <sconz@list.supras.org.nz>
Sent: Thursday, June 17, 2004 10:38 PM
Subject: RE: [sconz] GA70 vs MA70 - my dilemma

no no no, 7m power baby, stay with it
1g's are cool
1j's are cool
but we got the cubes ;)
and we already know the only problem with 7m's head gaskets, one fix sweet
as, which from what i can remember you've already done so ur home free :D

instead give me the ga70 body if it's still rego'd lol ;)
need another mk3 body for flatmate :D

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2004-06-24 12:50:00

TEMS, R154, Electric seats(?), Cruise Control, etc. It adds up.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Hunt M" <5uprah@supras.co.nz>
To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List" <sconz@list.supras.org.nz>
Sent: Thursday, June 24, 2004 12:50 PM
Subject: Re: [sconz] cc's rule - but turbos are better

> dads trap speed for the 13.8 was 161.2 - for my 14.04 158.3
>
> fully spec'd???
> no ABS - no aero roof - oh wait it has wide body gaurds - ooohh they must
> weigh heaps..........
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Cully Paterson" <cully@supras.org.nz>
> To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List" <sconz@list.supras.org.nz>
> Sent: Thursday, June 24, 2004 12:46 PM
> Subject: Re: [sconz] cc's rule - but turbos are better
>
>
> ...and vehicle weight, especially when it comes to Hunt's no-options
bare-as
> GA70 vs Rob's fully spec'd MA70...
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Lachlan Chapman" <Lachlan.Chapman@coel.co.nz>
> To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List" <sconz@list.supras.org.nz>
> Sent: Thursday, June 24, 2004 12:44 PM
> Subject: Re: [sconz] cc's rule - but turbos are better
>
>
> > Compare the trap speeds, not the 1/4 times if you want to compare
power...
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Hunt M" <5uprah@supras.co.nz>
> > To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List" <sconz@list.supras.org.nz>
> > Sent: Thursday, June 24, 2004 12:36 PM
> > Subject: [sconz] cc's rule - but turbos are better
> >
> >
> > ><blah blah blah drivel>
> >
> > ---
> > Supra Club of New Zealand - http://www.supras.org.nz/
> > Website sponsored by Alltech Diesel & Turbocharger
http://www.turbo.co.nz
> >
>
>
> ---
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>
>
>
>
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2004-06-24 12:54:00

Tems - don't weight that much extra - 5 kg's MAX?? - if that? Whats extra
for tems? Actuators which are like 200grams each? Shocks don't weigh any
different?
Electric seats - not any more so than mine - ie. Only lumber and side
support. No difference here!
Cruise control - not that much, WAY less than 5 kg's worth
R154 - no more than 5-10kg's?

How about the fact that I race with my sounds in the boot - two amps, two
12" subs in a rather heavy box - weighs about 35kg's.....

Anything else to comment on??

Hunt

-----Original Message-----
From: bounce-34654-72@list.supras.org.nz
[mailto:bounce-34654-72@list.supras.org.nz] On Behalf Of Cully Paterson
Sent: Thursday, 24 June 2004 12:55 p.m.
To: Supra Club of NZ Mailing List
Subject: Re: [sconz] cc's rule - but turbos are better

TEMS, R154, Electric seats(?), Cruise Control, etc. It adds up.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Hunt M" <5uprah@supras.co.nz>
To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List" <sconz@list.supras.org.nz>
Sent: Thursday, June 24, 2004 12:50 PM
Subject: Re: [sconz] cc's rule - but turbos are better

> dads trap speed for the 13.8 was 161.2 - for my 14.04 158.3
>
> fully spec'd???
> no ABS - no aero roof - oh wait it has wide body gaurds - ooohh they must
> weigh heaps..........
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Cully Paterson" <cully@supras.org.nz>
> To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List" <sconz@list.supras.org.nz>
> Sent: Thursday, June 24, 2004 12:46 PM
> Subject: Re: [sconz] cc's rule - but turbos are better
>
>
> ...and vehicle weight, especially when it comes to Hunt's no-options
bare-as
> GA70 vs Rob's fully spec'd MA70...
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Lachlan Chapman" <Lachlan.Chapman@coel.co.nz>
> To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List" <sconz@list.supras.org.nz>
> Sent: Thursday, June 24, 2004 12:44 PM
> Subject: Re: [sconz] cc's rule - but turbos are better
>
>
> > Compare the trap speeds, not the 1/4 times if you want to compare
power...
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Hunt M" <5uprah@supras.co.nz>
> > To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List" <sconz@list.supras.org.nz>
> > Sent: Thursday, June 24, 2004 12:36 PM
> > Subject: [sconz] cc's rule - but turbos are better
> >
> >
> > ><blah blah blah drivel>
> >
> > ---
> > Supra Club of New Zealand - http://www.supras.org.nz/
> > Website sponsored by Alltech Diesel & Turbocharger
http://www.turbo.co.nz
> >
>
>
> ---
> Supra Club of New Zealand - http://www.supras.org.nz/
> Website sponsored by Alltech Diesel & Turbocharger http://www.turbo.co.nz
>
>
>
>
> ---
> Supra Club of New Zealand - http://www.supras.org.nz/
> Website sponsored by Alltech Diesel & Turbocharger http://www.turbo.co.nz
>

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2004-06-24 13:31:00

re: cc's rule - but turbos are better

2004-06-24 13:32:00

<Brett>

campare these two pages.

http://www.toyota-supra.info/models/1989_8/4599/
This is pretty close to your car hunt - (in its original auto N/A form) now dont say that you have a turbo that weighs your car down, because the auto is much heavier than the 5spd. so they can cancel each other.

http://www.toyota-supra.info/models/1989_8/4595/
This is mine. fully spec'd targa top, elec seats, cc, tems, rah de rah.

Have a look at curb weight. 180kg difference!!

Regards

Brett

And we are comparing my dads car and 1/4 mile time to mine - dads is NOT
fully spec'd - no ABS - no AERO roof.

Interesting - where does the extra weight come from then?
They measured both the cars as auto tho - how much would the 7M auto weigh
as opposed to the R154 and how much does the 1G auto weigh as opposed to the
W5x boxes?
And the weight between the N/A and turbo 1G cant be that much - turbo set up
would weigh - what about 15 kg's? maybe slightly more?
Does anyone know what the weight of a 1G-GE, 1G-GTE, 7M-GE and 7M-GTE is?

Cheers
Hunt

-----Original Message-----
From: bounce-34656-72@list.supras.org.nz
[mailto:bounce-34656-72@list.supras.org.nz] On Behalf Of Brett
Sent: Thursday, 24 June 2004 1:27 p.m.
To: Supra Club of NZ Mailing List
Subject: re:[sconz] cc's rule - but turbos are better

campare these two pages.

http://www.toyota-supra.info/models/1989_8/4599/
This is pretty close to your car hunt - (in its original auto N/A form) now
dont say that you have a turbo that weighs your car down, because the auto
is much heavier than the 5spd. so they can cancel each other.

http://www.toyota-supra.info/models/1989_8/4595/
This is mine. fully spec'd targa top, elec seats, cc, tems, rah de rah.

Have a look at curb weight. 180kg difference!!

Regards

Brett
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2004-06-24 13:40:00

> Tems - don't weight that much extra - 5 kg's MAX?? - if that? Whats extra
> for tems? Actuators which are like 200grams each? Shocks don't weigh any
> different?

Shock are heavier, loom to each corner of the car, additional loom for TEMS
computer, steering wheel sensor, display.

> Electric seats - not any more so than mine - ie. Only lumber and side
> support. No difference here!

Have you picked up the fully electric seats? They're *heavy*. I had to
ship one to the US - had to send it in two parts as it was over the weight
limit as a whole item.

> Cruise control - not that much, WAY less than 5 kg's worth

Computer, bellows, piping, throttle linkage, loom, switches.

> R154 - no more than 5-10kg's?

About 12 from memory.

> Anything else to comment on??

Only that it all adds up. Little things like 6 speaker stereos as standard
all go to make a significant difference.

2004-06-24 13:42:00

Have a look here, all models are listed..

http://www.toyota-supra.info/models/1989_8/

the A340E auto (standard in my GA70 and MA70) are very heavy, much heavier than my W55. R154s are signifigantly heavier than the W5x boxes.

i can imagine a 7M with your same turbo would rip sh1t up. and you were saying you spent a few thousand dollars to get where you are??

a few thousand dollars spent on a 7M would be nice.

* T04 and manifold
* FCD
* 550s
* and a wastegate welded shut

muhahahaha

2004-06-24 13:58:00

<Brett>

>> Tems - don't weight that much extra - 5 kg's MAX?? - if that? Whats extra
>> for tems? Actuators which are like 200grams each? Shocks don't weigh any
>> different?

>Shock are heavier, loom to each corner of the car, additional loom for TEMS
>computer, steering wheel sensor, display.

Shocks are marginally heavier - would not say more than 2kg's each - so
8kg's all up - wiring from corner to corner of car - less than 2kg's - its
not 3 phase

>> Electric seats - not any more so than mine - ie. Only lumber and side
>> support. No difference here!

>Have you picked up the fully electric seats? They're *heavy*. I had to
>ship one to the US - had to send it in two parts as it was over the weight
>limit as a whole item.

I have picked up electric seats - great to know they are heavy - however my
dad has THE SAME seats as mine so this comment is irrelevant.

>> Cruise control - not that much, WAY less than 5 kg's worth

>Computer, bellows, piping, throttle linkage, loom, switches.

Would be VERY surprised if all this was more than 5kg's

>> R154 - no more than 5-10kg's?

> About 12 from memory.

More than I was expecting but I'll believe ya :)

>> Anything else to comment on??

> Only that it all adds up. Little things like 6 speaker stereos as
> standard
> all go to make a significant difference.

Dads doesn't have 6 speaker stereo - NZ new - four speaker set up.

OH!! And we took out dads spare tire when I raced and did the 13.8!! :)

So in conclusion we have:

10 kg's for tems
4 kg's for CC
12 kg's for R154 vs W5x box

26kg's difference - not including the fact that the 7M-GTE weighs more the
1G-GTE.
His car (minus the engine weight difference) is heavier than mine by 26 kg's
- my sub box weighs around 35 (or more) kg's, 10kg's up on him so far - now
for engine weight comparisons....???

Cheers
Hunt

2004-06-24 14:07:00

2004-06-24 14:15:00

<Doig, Richard>

2004-06-24 14:24:00

2004-06-24 14:27:00

Assuming my car is ready, can i get in on this race?

Its pretty stock, sits somewhere in the middle capacity wise. :)

----- Original Message -----
From: "Hunt M" <5uprah@supras.co.nz>
>
> Would be interesting to see what it will do @ 16-17psi - if at 9psi she
gets
> 14 flat.
>
> I challenge you to race at Meremere one day (racing on the street is for
> eggs). We shall then see who is to bow down.... ;-)

2004-06-24 14:32:00

Stock 1JZ?
Sweet!!
Manual or auto?

-----Original Message-----
From: bounce-34665-72@list.supras.org.nz
[mailto:bounce-34665-72@list.supras.org.nz] On Behalf Of Lachlan Chapman
Sent: Thursday, 24 June 2004 2:32 p.m.
To: Supra Club of NZ Mailing List
Subject: Re: [sconz] cc's rule - but turbos are better

Assuming my car is ready, can i get in on this race?

Its pretty stock, sits somewhere in the middle capacity wise. :)

----- Original Message -----
From: "Hunt M" <5uprah@supras.co.nz>
>
> Would be interesting to see what it will do @ 16-17psi - if at 9psi she
gets
> 14 flat.
>
> I challenge you to race at Meremere one day (racing on the street is for
> eggs). We shall then see who is to bow down.... ;-)

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2004-06-24 14:36:00

2004-06-24 14:50:00

I'm more in the nissan camp :) If i mention any more i might get flamed to death ;) It has bolt on mods. Manual. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Hunt M" <5uprah@supras.co.nz> > Stock 1JZ? > Sweet!! > Manual or auto? >

And the model type may or may not contain an 'R' preceeded by 'GT'?

-----Original Message-----
From: "Lachlan Chapman" <Lachlan.Chapman@coel.co.nz>
To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List" <sconz@list.supras.org.nz>
Date: Thu, 24 Jun 2004 14:50:19 +1200
Subject: Re: [sconz] cc's rule - but turbos are better

> I'm more in the nissan camp :)
>
> If i mention any more i might get flamed to death ;)
>
> It has bolt on mods. Manual.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Hunt M" <5uprah@supras.co.nz>
>
>
> > Stock 1JZ?
> > Sweet!!
> > Manual or auto?
> >
>
>
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> http://www.turbo.co.nz

2004-06-24 15:05:00

Just out of interest, I shipped a CT26 + manifold, it
weighed 22 kg.

Do both cars have AC? I believe all that would weigh
30kg+

What about the amount of gas in the tank at the time?
Can be a big difference :-)

Lastly, the times are so close, the difference could
just be down to one car having a particularly good
run, anbd the other not such a good one. Noone gets
consistent drag times.

Oh yeah, 7MGTE's rule all. Hehe

Cheers
Andy S

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2004-06-24 15:11:00

That would be correct, it may or may not have some of those letters, but i
think all skylines have some of those letters :)

----- Original Message -----
From: "Ben Nuttall" <supra@sideways.co.nz>
To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List" <sconz@list.supras.org.nz>
Sent: Thursday, June 24, 2004 3:08 PM
Subject: Re: [sconz] cc's rule - but turbos are better

> And the model type may or may not contain an 'R' preceeded by 'GT'?
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: "Lachlan Chapman" <Lachlan.Chapman@coel.co.nz>
> To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List" <sconz@list.supras.org.nz>
> Date: Thu, 24 Jun 2004 14:50:19 +1200
> Subject: Re: [sconz] cc's rule - but turbos are better
>
> > I'm more in the nissan camp :)
> >
> > If i mention any more i might get flamed to death ;)
> >
> > It has bolt on mods. Manual.
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Hunt M" <5uprah@supras.co.nz>
> >
> >
> > > Stock 1JZ?
> > > Sweet!!
> > > Manual or auto?
> > >
> >
> >
> > ---
> > Supra Club of New Zealand - http://www.supras.org.nz/
> > Website sponsored by Alltech Diesel & Turbocharger
> > http://www.turbo.co.nz
>
>
>
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>

2004-06-24 15:14:00

22 kg that's a fair whack!!

Dad's car does have A/C - I took mine out - motor and radiator (motor weighs
about 8kg's and radiator is next to nothing - piping is alloy - also next to
nothing.

I had about 1/3 tank - as did dad.

I did 4 14.2's that day - first runs were in the 15's once learned what the
track was like and how to launch on the day I was doing consistent
14.04-14.2's.

Oh and did I mention that my clutch was buggered too so had to launch softly
:( and gear changes had to be VERY slow :)

Oh yeah 7M's do rule!!!
But 1G's are cooler :)

Hunt

-----Original Message-----
From: bounce-34669-72@list.supras.org.nz
[mailto:bounce-34669-72@list.supras.org.nz] On Behalf Of Andy S
Sent: Thursday, 24 June 2004 3:11 p.m.
To: Supra Club of NZ Mailing List
Subject: RE: [sconz] cc's rule - but turbos are better

Just out of interest, I shipped a CT26 + manifold, it
weighed 22 kg.

Do both cars have AC? I believe all that would weigh
30kg+

What about the amount of gas in the tank at the time?
Can be a big difference :-)

Lastly, the times are so close, the difference could
just be down to one car having a particularly good
run, anbd the other not such a good one. Noone gets
consistent drag times.

Oh yeah, 7MGTE's rule all. Hehe

Cheers
Andy S

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2004-06-24 15:18:00

I'd be keen on getting involved in that race too...

as long as mr lachlan isnt (or if he doesnt have that little "r")

I have a 2 litre turbo...

Quoting Lachlan Chapman <Lachlan.Chapman@coel.co.nz>:

> That would be correct, it may or may not have some of those letters, but i
> think all skylines have some of those letters :)
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Ben Nuttall" <supra@sideways.co.nz>
> To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List" <sconz@list.supras.org.nz>
> Sent: Thursday, June 24, 2004 3:08 PM
> Subject: Re: [sconz] cc's rule - but turbos are better
>
>
> > And the model type may or may not contain an 'R' preceeded by 'GT'?
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: "Lachlan Chapman" <Lachlan.Chapman@coel.co.nz>
> > To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List" <sconz@list.supras.org.nz>
> > Date: Thu, 24 Jun 2004 14:50:19 +1200
> > Subject: Re: [sconz] cc's rule - but turbos are better
> >
> > > I'm more in the nissan camp :)
> > >
> > > If i mention any more i might get flamed to death ;)
> > >
> > > It has bolt on mods. Manual.
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Hunt M" <5uprah@supras.co.nz>
> > >
> > >
> > > > Stock 1JZ?
> > > > Sweet!!
> > > > Manual or auto?
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ---
> > > Supra Club of New Zealand - http://www.supras.org.nz/
> > > Website sponsored by Alltech Diesel & Turbocharger
> > > http://www.turbo.co.nz
> >
> >
> >
> > ---
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> > Website sponsored by Alltech Diesel & Turbocharger http://www.turbo.co.nz
> >
>
>
> ---
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> Website sponsored by Alltech Diesel & Turbocharger http://www.turbo.co.nz
>

2004-06-24 15:18:00

<john@...>

Have I missed the point here?
I can understand your enthusiasm for Supras, but what is your point?
Ive owned both the 1G-GTE and 1JZ-GTE Supra and they're both great cars.

- Marc

> 22 kg that's a fair whack!!
>
> Dad's car does have A/C - I took mine out - motor and radiator (motor
> weighs
> about 8kg's and radiator is next to nothing - piping is alloy - also
> next to
> nothing.
>
> I had about 1/3 tank - as did dad.
>
> I did 4 14.2's that day - first runs were in the 15's once learned what
> the
> track was like and how to launch on the day I was doing consistent
> 14.04-14.2's.
>
> Oh and did I mention that my clutch was buggered too so had to launch
> softly
> :( and gear changes had to be VERY slow :)
>
> Oh yeah 7M's do rule!!!
> But 1G's are cooler :)
>
> Hunt

2004-06-24 17:00:00

It all started with Brett's post on Monday about a crank being bent and the
fact that it cant have cos its not a "little" 1G :)

My argument is in regards to a comparison between the 7M and the 1G and
which is "stronger" or can produce more power per litre.

I am in NO WAY saying that 7M's are bad - just think that 1G's seem to have
a bad rap for power even though they don't do too badly at all in regards to
power per litre compared to the "almighty" 7M when "juiced up".

I think this discussion is well and truly worn out...

Hunt

-----Original Message-----
From: bounce-34674-72@list.supras.org.nz
[mailto:bounce-34674-72@list.supras.org.nz] On Behalf Of Marc Archbold
Sent: Thursday, 24 June 2004 5:00 p.m.
To: Supra Club of NZ Mailing List
Subject: RE: [sconz] cc's rule - but turbos are better

Have I missed the point here?
I can understand your enthusiasm for Supras, but what is your point?
Ive owned both the 1G-GTE and 1JZ-GTE Supra and they're both great cars.

- Marc

> 22 kg that's a fair whack!!
>
> Dad's car does have A/C - I took mine out - motor and radiator (motor
> weighs
> about 8kg's and radiator is next to nothing - piping is alloy - also
> next to
> nothing.
>
> I had about 1/3 tank - as did dad.
>
> I did 4 14.2's that day - first runs were in the 15's once learned what
> the
> track was like and how to launch on the day I was doing consistent
> 14.04-14.2's.
>
> Oh and did I mention that my clutch was buggered too so had to launch
> softly
> :( and gear changes had to be VERY slow :)
>
> Oh yeah 7M's do rule!!!
> But 1G's are cooler :)
>
> Hunt

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2004-06-24 17:12:00

> My argument is in regards to a comparison between the 7M and
> the 1G and which is "stronger" or can produce more power per litre.
>
> I am in NO WAY saying that 7M's are bad - just think that
> 1G's seem to have a bad rap for power even though they don't
> do too badly at all in regards to power per litre compared to
> the "almighty" 7M when "juiced up".

So why didn't you say that days ago?

Tell you what Hunt, why don't you actually dyno your car, then you'll
have something real to back up what you're saying? So far the only
basis for comparison we have on a single turbo'd 1G is Robbi's car that
was barely making more than a stock 7M+exhaust.

2004-06-24 17:32:00

That is what I intend on doing and given the money situation I hope to have
it done soon.

All fine and dandy that Robbies car got 210rwhp @ 14psi with his single
turbo conversion BUT I got 211rwhp (159rwkw) with the stock TT setup @ 12
psi boost with air filter and exhaust and bleed valve, ran a 14.4 with that
set up then a 14.2 @ 14psi boost same day - now running 9psi and car feels
and is a lot stronger than before......

Hunt

-----Original Message-----
From: bounce-34677-72@list.supras.org.nz
[mailto:bounce-34677-72@list.supras.org.nz] On Behalf Of Cully Paterson
Sent: Thursday, 24 June 2004 5:32 p.m.
To: Supra Club of NZ Mailing List
Subject: RE: [sconz] cc's rule - but turbos are better

> My argument is in regards to a comparison between the 7M and
> the 1G and which is "stronger" or can produce more power per litre.
>
> I am in NO WAY saying that 7M's are bad - just think that
> 1G's seem to have a bad rap for power even though they don't
> do too badly at all in regards to power per litre compared to
> the "almighty" 7M when "juiced up".

So why didn't you say that days ago?

Tell you what Hunt, why don't you actually dyno your car, then you'll
have something real to back up what you're saying? So far the only
basis for comparison we have on a single turbo'd 1G is Robbi's car that
was barely making more than a stock 7M+exhaust.

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2004-06-24 17:38:00

Oh and bear in mind that with the TT setup when I ran the 14.4 @12psi and
14.2 @ 14psi I was using my 4.7:1 LSD - the 14flat that I got with the
single was using a 3.9:1 OPEN diff on 205 tires :)

-----Original Message-----
From: bounce-34678-72@list.supras.org.nz
[mailto:bounce-34678-72@list.supras.org.nz] On Behalf Of Hunt M
Sent: Thursday, 24 June 2004 5:38 p.m.
To: Supra Club of NZ Mailing List
Subject: RE: [sconz] cc's rule - but turbos are better

That is what I intend on doing and given the money situation I hope to have
it done soon.

All fine and dandy that Robbies car got 210rwhp @ 14psi with his single
turbo conversion BUT I got 211rwhp (159rwkw) with the stock TT setup @ 12
psi boost with air filter and exhaust and bleed valve, ran a 14.4 with that
set up then a 14.2 @ 14psi boost same day - now running 9psi and car feels
and is a lot stronger than before......

Hunt

-----Original Message-----
From: bounce-34677-72@list.supras.org.nz
[mailto:bounce-34677-72@list.supras.org.nz] On Behalf Of Cully Paterson
Sent: Thursday, 24 June 2004 5:32 p.m.
To: Supra Club of NZ Mailing List
Subject: RE: [sconz] cc's rule - but turbos are better

> My argument is in regards to a comparison between the 7M and
> the 1G and which is "stronger" or can produce more power per litre.
>
> I am in NO WAY saying that 7M's are bad - just think that
> 1G's seem to have a bad rap for power even though they don't
> do too badly at all in regards to power per litre compared to
> the "almighty" 7M when "juiced up".

So why didn't you say that days ago?

Tell you what Hunt, why don't you actually dyno your car, then you'll
have something real to back up what you're saying? So far the only
basis for comparison we have on a single turbo'd 1G is Robbi's car that
was barely making more than a stock 7M+exhaust.

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2004-06-24 17:44:00

> All fine and dandy that Robbies car got 210rwhp @ 14psi with
> his single turbo conversion BUT I got 211rwhp (159rwkw) with
> the stock TT setup @ 12 psi boost with air filter and exhaust
> and bleed valve, ran a 14.4 with that set up then a 14.2 @
> 14psi boost same day - now running 9psi and car feels and is
> a lot stronger than before......

You seem entirely convinced that 1/4 mile numbers actually mean
something. In a road car it's just irrelevant! I dyno'd with 112kw
MORE than Suze got, and she's now got a better 1/4 time than me. It may
as well be random numbers.

Cully

2004-06-24 18:19:00

Perhaps the driver?

Mwhaaahahaha *waits for flames* :)

-----Original Message-----
From: bounce-34680-72@list.supras.org.nz
[mailto:bounce-34680-72@list.supras.org.nz] On Behalf Of Cully Paterson
Sent: Thursday, 24 June 2004 6:19 p.m.
To: Supra Club of NZ Mailing List
Subject: RE: [sconz] cc's rule - but turbos are better

> All fine and dandy that Robbies car got 210rwhp @ 14psi with
> his single turbo conversion BUT I got 211rwhp (159rwkw) with
> the stock TT setup @ 12 psi boost with air filter and exhaust
> and bleed valve, ran a 14.4 with that set up then a 14.2 @
> 14psi boost same day - now running 9psi and car feels and is
> a lot stronger than before......

You seem entirely convinced that 1/4 mile numbers actually mean
something. In a road car it's just irrelevant! I dyno'd with 112kw
MORE than Suze got, and she's now got a better 1/4 time than me. It may
as well be random numbers.

Cully

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2004-06-24 18:21:00

Apparently you're afraid of going around corners, so I guess I'll never
be able to prove otherwise...

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Hunt M [mailto:5uprah@supras.co.nz]
> Sent: Thursday, 24 June 2004 6:21 p.m.
> To: SCONZ.list Forward
> Subject: RE: [sconz] cc's rule - but turbos are better
>
> Perhaps the driver?
>
> Mwhaaahahaha *waits for flames* :)
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: bounce-34680-72@list.supras.org.nz
> [mailto:bounce-34680-72@list.supras.org.nz] On Behalf Of
> Cully Paterson
> Sent: Thursday, 24 June 2004 6:19 p.m.
> To: Supra Club of NZ Mailing List
> Subject: RE: [sconz] cc's rule - but turbos are better
>
>
> > All fine and dandy that Robbies car got 210rwhp @ 14psi with his
> > single turbo conversion BUT I got 211rwhp (159rwkw) with
> the stock TT
> > setup @ 12 psi boost with air filter and exhaust and bleed
> valve, ran
> > a 14.4 with that set up then a 14.2 @ 14psi boost same day - now
> > running 9psi and car feels and is a lot stronger than before......
>
> You seem entirely convinced that 1/4 mile numbers actually
> mean something. In a road car it's just irrelevant! I
> dyno'd with 112kw MORE than Suze got, and she's now got a
> better 1/4 time than me. It may as well be random numbers.
>
> Cully
>
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>
>
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>

2004-06-24 18:27:00

I know that 1/4 mile times are in no way a decent way to gauge two cars'
performance or power output - how ever it does baffle me how I managed to,
at a lower boost level than Robbies car get the same rwhp as his.... was his
car auto?

Hunt

-----Original Message-----
From: bounce-34680-72@list.supras.org.nz
[mailto:bounce-34680-72@list.supras.org.nz] On Behalf Of Cully Paterson
Sent: Thursday, 24 June 2004 6:19 p.m.
To: Supra Club of NZ Mailing List
Subject: RE: [sconz] cc's rule - but turbos are better

> All fine and dandy that Robbies car got 210rwhp @ 14psi with
> his single turbo conversion BUT I got 211rwhp (159rwkw) with
> the stock TT setup @ 12 psi boost with air filter and exhaust
> and bleed valve, ran a 14.4 with that set up then a 14.2 @
> 14psi boost same day - now running 9psi and car feels and is
> a lot stronger than before......

You seem entirely convinced that 1/4 mile numbers actually mean
something. In a road car it's just irrelevant! I dyno'd with 112kw
MORE than Suze got, and she's now got a better 1/4 time than me. It may
as well be random numbers.

Cully

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2004-06-24 18:28:00

Not at all - when racing I push my car to the limit - and then some (anyone
who's seen me race can vouch for this) - drag racing you only loose traction
and spin the wheels, and your going straight ahead so no biggie - track
racing I would push my car to the limit as well but if I were to go over
that limit I could spin out and cause damage to my car - I just don't like
the thought of smashing up something that I have spent literally hundreds of
hours on to get to the level that it is at.
Don't mention taking my car out on the road every day and about primera
owners :)

Hunt

-----Original Message-----
From: bounce-34682-72@list.supras.org.nz
[mailto:bounce-34682-72@list.supras.org.nz] On Behalf Of Cully Paterson
Sent: Thursday, 24 June 2004 6:27 p.m.
To: Supra Club of NZ Mailing List
Subject: RE: [sconz] cc's rule - but turbos are better

Apparently you're afraid of going around corners, so I guess I'll never
be able to prove otherwise...

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Hunt M [mailto:5uprah@supras.co.nz]
> Sent: Thursday, 24 June 2004 6:21 p.m.
> To: SCONZ.list Forward
> Subject: RE: [sconz] cc's rule - but turbos are better
>
> Perhaps the driver?
>
> Mwhaaahahaha *waits for flames* :)
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: bounce-34680-72@list.supras.org.nz
> [mailto:bounce-34680-72@list.supras.org.nz] On Behalf Of
> Cully Paterson
> Sent: Thursday, 24 June 2004 6:19 p.m.
> To: Supra Club of NZ Mailing List
> Subject: RE: [sconz] cc's rule - but turbos are better
>
>
> > All fine and dandy that Robbies car got 210rwhp @ 14psi with his
> > single turbo conversion BUT I got 211rwhp (159rwkw) with
> the stock TT
> > setup @ 12 psi boost with air filter and exhaust and bleed
> valve, ran
> > a 14.4 with that set up then a 14.2 @ 14psi boost same day - now
> > running 9psi and car feels and is a lot stronger than before......
>
> You seem entirely convinced that 1/4 mile numbers actually
> mean something. In a road car it's just irrelevant! I
> dyno'd with 112kw MORE than Suze got, and she's now got a
> better 1/4 time than me. It may as well be random numbers.
>
> Cully
>
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> sponsored by Alltech Diesel & Turbocharger http://www.turbo.co.nz
>
>
> ---
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> sponsored by Alltech Diesel & Turbocharger http://www.turbo.co.nz
>

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2004-06-24 18:31:00

2004-06-24 20:04:00

Now what can i say or do i the one that said thay have 112kw more power than suze all i can say you have got some thing wrong there unless you have got so much lag that slows you down becouse suze as done a 13.6 and with a 112kw more you should be in the 12sec eny way my best time so far is a 12.6 and 184km not to bad hey for a auto but i will smash that very soon.

>Reply-To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List" <sconz@list.supras.org.nz>

>To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List" <sconz@list.supras.org.nz>

>Subject: RE: [sconz] cc's rule - but turbos are better

>Date: Thu, 24 Jun 2004 18:31:20 +1200

>Not at all - when racing I push my car to the limit - and then some (anyone

>who's seen me race can vouch for this) - drag racing you only loose traction

>and spin the wheels, and your going straight ahead so no biggie - track

>racing I would push my car to the limit as well but if I were to go over

>that limit I could spin out and cause damage to my car - I just don't like

>the thought of smashing up something that I have spent literally hundreds of

>hours on to get to the level that it is at.

>Don't mention taking my car out on the road every day and about primera

>owners :)

>Hunt

>From: bounce-34682-72@list.supras.org.nz

>[mailto:bounce-34682-72@list.supras.org.nz] On Behalf Of Cully Paterson

>Sent: Thursday, 24 June 2004 6:27 p.m.

>Subject: RE: [sconz] cc's rule - but turbos are better

>Apparently you're afraid of going around corners, so I guess I'll never

>be able to prove otherwise...

> > From: Hunt M [mailto:5uprah@supras.co.nz]

> > Sent: Thursday, 24 June 2004 6:21 p.m.

> > To: SCONZ.list Forward

> > Subject: RE: [sconz] cc's rule - but turbos are better

> > Perhaps the driver?

> > Mwhaaahahaha *waits for flames* :)

> > From: bounce-34680-72@list.supras.org.nz

> > [mailto:bounce-34680-72@list.supras.org.nz] On Behalf Of

> > Cully Paterson

> > Sent: Thursday, 24 June 2004 6:19 p.m.

> > To: Supra Club of NZ Mailing List

> > Subject: RE: [sconz] cc's rule - but turbos are better

> > > All fine and dandy that Robbies car got 210rwhp @ 14psi with his

> > > single turbo conversion BUT I got 211rwhp (159rwkw) with

> > the stock TT

> > > setup @ 12 psi boost with air filter and exhaust and bleed

> > valve, ran

> > > a 14.4 with that set up then a 14.2 @ 14psi boost same day - now

> > > running 9psi and car feels and is a lot stronger than before......

> > You seem entirely convinced that 1/4 mile numbers actually

> > mean something. In a road car it's just irrelevant! I

> > dyno'd with 112kw MORE than Suze got, and she's now got a

> > better 1/4 time than me. It may as well be random numbers.

> > Supra Club of New Zealand - http://www.supras.org.nz/ Website

> > sponsored by Alltech Diesel & Turbocharger http://www.turbo.co.nz

> > Supra Club of New Zealand - http://www.supras.org.nz/ Website

> > ---

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2004-06-24 20:14:00

Hey Hunt dont you think its funny that the 3 fastest supras are from my work shop funny that hey.

>Reply-To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List" <sconz@list.supras.org.nz>

>To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List" <sconz@list.supras.org.nz>

>Subject: RE: [sconz] cc's rule - but turbos are better

>Date: Thu, 24 Jun 2004 18:31:20 +1200

>Not at all - when racing I push my car to the limit - and then some (anyone

>who's seen me race can vouch for this) - drag racing you only loose traction

>and spin the wheels, and your going straight ahead so no biggie - track

>racing I would push my car to the limit as well but if I were to go over

>that limit I could spin out and cause damage to my car - I just don't like

>the thought of smashing up something that I have spent literally hundreds of

>hours on to get to the level that it is at.

>Don't mention taking my car out on the road every day and about primera

>owners :)

>Hunt

>From: bounce-34682-72@list.supras.org.nz

>[mailto:bounce-34682-72@list.supras.org.nz] On Behalf Of Cully Paterson

>Sent: Thursday, 24 June 2004 6:27 p.m.

>Subject: RE: [sconz] cc's rule - but turbos are better

>Apparently you're afraid of going around corners, so I guess I'll never

>be able to prove otherwise...

> > From: Hunt M [mailto:5uprah@supras.co.nz]

> > Sent: Thursday, 24 June 2004 6:21 p.m.

> > To: SCONZ.list Forward

> > Subject: RE: [sconz] cc's rule - but turbos are better

> > Perhaps the driver?

> > Mwhaaahahaha *waits for flames* :)

> > From: bounce-34680-72@list.supras.org.nz

> > [mailto:bounce-34680-72@list.supras.org.nz] On Behalf Of

> > Cully Paterson

> > Sent: Thursday, 24 June 2004 6:19 p.m.

> > To: Supra Club of NZ Mailing List

> > Subject: RE: [sconz] cc's rule - but turbos are better

> > > All fine and dandy that Robbies car got 210rwhp @ 14psi with his

> > > single turbo conversion BUT I got 211rwhp (159rwkw) with

> > the stock TT

> > > setup @ 12 psi boost with air filter and exhaust and bleed

> > valve, ran

> > > a 14.4 with that set up then a 14.2 @ 14psi boost same day - now

> > > running 9psi and car feels and is a lot stronger than before......

> > You seem entirely convinced that 1/4 mile numbers actually

> > mean something. In a road car it's just irrelevant! I

> > dyno'd with 112kw MORE than Suze got, and she's now got a

> > better 1/4 time than me. It may as well be random numbers.

> > Supra Club of New Zealand - http://www.supras.org.nz/ Website

> > sponsored by Alltech Diesel & Turbocharger http://www.turbo.co.nz

> > Supra Club of New Zealand - http://www.supras.org.nz/ Website

> > ---

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From: bounce-34686-72@list.supras.org.nz
[mailto:bounce-34686-72@list.supras.org.nz] On Behalf Of john shannon
Sent: Thursday, 24 June 2004 8:14 p.m.
To: Supra Club of NZ Mailing List
Subject: RE: [sconz] cc's rule - but turbos are better

Hey Hunt dont you think its funny that the 3 fastest supras are from my work
shop funny that hey.

>From: "Hunt M" <5uprah@supras.co.nz>

>Reply-To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List" <sconz@list.supras.org.nz>

>To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List" <sconz@list.supras.org.nz>

>Subject: RE: [sconz] cc's rule - but turbos are better

>Date: Thu, 24 Jun 2004 18:31:20 +1200

>

>Not at all - when racing I push my car to the limit - and then some (anyone

>who's seen me race can vouch for this) - drag racing you only loose
traction

>and spin the wheels, and your going straight ahead so no biggie - track

>racing I would push my car to the limit as well but if I were to go over

>that limit I could spin out and cause damage to my car - I just don't like

>the thought of smashing up something that I have spent literally hundreds
of

>hours on to get to the level that it is at.

>Don't mention taking my car out on the road every day and about primera

>owners :)

>

>Hunt

>

>-----Original Message-----

>From: bounce-34682-72@list.supras.org.nz

>[mailto:bounce-34682-72@list.supras.org.nz] On Behalf Of Cully Paterson

>Sent: Thursday, 24 June 2004 6:27 p.m.

>To: Supra Club of NZ Mailing List

>Subject: RE: [sconz] cc's rule - but turbos are better

>

>Apparently you're afraid of going around corners, so I guess I'll never

>be able to prove otherwise...

>

>

> > -----Original Message-----

> > From: Hunt M [mailto:5uprah@supras.co.nz]

> > Sent: Thursday, 24 June 2004 6:21 p.m.

> > To: SCONZ.list Forward

> > Subject: RE: [sconz] cc's rule - but turbos are better

> >

> > Perhaps the driver?

> >

> > Mwhaaahahaha *waits for flames* :)

> >

> > -----Original Message-----

> > From: bounce-34680-72@list.supras.org.nz

> > [mailto:bounce-34680-72@list.supras.org.nz] On Behalf Of

> > Cully Paterson

> > Sent: Thursday, 24 June 2004 6:19 p.m.

> > To: Supra Club of NZ Mailing List

> > Subject: RE: [sconz] cc's rule - but turbos are better

> >

> >

> > > All fine and dandy that Robbies car got 210rwhp @ 14psi with his

> > > single turbo conversion BUT I got 211rwhp (159rwkw) with

> > the stock TT

> > > setup @ 12 psi boost with air filter and exhaust and bleed

> > valve, ran

> > > a 14.4 with that set up then a 14.2 @ 14psi boost same day - now

> > > running 9psi and car feels and is a lot stronger than before......

> >

> > You seem entirely convinced that 1/4 mile numbers actually

> > mean something. In a road car it's just irrelevant! I

> > dyno'd with 112kw MORE than Suze got, and she's now got a

> > better 1/4 time than me. It may as well be random numbers.

> >

> > Cully

> >

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> > sponsored by Alltech Diesel & Turbocharger http://www.turbo.co.nz

> >

> >

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> >

>

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2004-06-24 20:17:00

so how come i got 13.9 on a bhg??? or was that due to extreme water
injection :P

>From: "Hunt M" <5uprah@supras.co.nz>
>Reply-To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List" <sconz@list.supras.org.nz>
>To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List" <sconz@list.supras.org.nz>
>Subject: [sconz] cc's rule - but turbos are better
>Date: Thu, 24 Jun 2004 12:36:37 +1200
>
>Go get a yank tank if you want cubes - there's no substatute for cc's - yes
>there is - forced induction :)
>Now lets work this out:
>
>13.8 @ 10psi boost from a fully rebuilt 7M with larger T4 compressor wheel
>14.04 @ 9psi from a 150 k's on the clock 1G using K26 turbo that has almost
>exact same size compressor wheel as a CT26.
>
>0.2 seconds quicker - perhaps its the 1psi of boost - or maybe the fact
>that
>you have half my engine again! :)
>
>My 15.4 cents
>
>Hunt
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Suze W" <spite_girl@hotmail.com>
>To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List" <sconz@list.supras.org.nz>
>Sent: Thursday, June 17, 2004 10:38 PM
>Subject: RE: [sconz] GA70 vs MA70 - my dilemma
>
>
>no no no, 7m power baby, stay with it
>1g's are cool
>1j's are cool
>but we got the cubes ;)
>and we already know the only problem with 7m's head gaskets, one fix sweet
>as, which from what i can remember you've already done so ur home free :D
>
>instead give me the ga70 body if it's still rego'd lol ;)
>need another mk3 body for flatmate :D
>
>
>
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2004-06-24 20:25:00

k 175kph ;)

my 13.9c lol

>From: "Lachlan Chapman" <Lachlan.Chapman@coel.co.nz>
>Reply-To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List" <sconz@list.supras.org.nz>
>To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List" <sconz@list.supras.org.nz>
>Subject: Re: [sconz] cc's rule - but turbos are better
>Date: Thu, 24 Jun 2004 12:44:54 +1200
>
>Compare the trap speeds, not the 1/4 times if you want to compare power...
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Hunt M" <5uprah@supras.co.nz>
>To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List" <sconz@list.supras.org.nz>
>Sent: Thursday, June 24, 2004 12:36 PM
>Subject: [sconz] cc's rule - but turbos are better
>
>
> ><blah blah blah drivel>
>
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2004-06-24 20:26:00

ok lol 13.9 @ 175kph with extreme water injection & 1620kg :P

>From: "Cully Paterson" <cully@supras.org.nz>
>Reply-To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List" <sconz@list.supras.org.nz>
>To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List" <sconz@list.supras.org.nz>
>Subject: Re: [sconz] cc's rule - but turbos are better
>Date: Thu, 24 Jun 2004 12:46:59 +1200
>
>...and vehicle weight, especially when it comes to Hunt's no-options
>bare-as
>GA70 vs Rob's fully spec'd MA70...
>
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Lachlan Chapman" <Lachlan.Chapman@coel.co.nz>
>To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List" <sconz@list.supras.org.nz>
>Sent: Thursday, June 24, 2004 12:44 PM
>Subject: Re: [sconz] cc's rule - but turbos are better
>
>
> > Compare the trap speeds, not the 1/4 times if you want to compare
>power...
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Hunt M" <5uprah@supras.co.nz>
> > To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List" <sconz@list.supras.org.nz>
> > Sent: Thursday, June 24, 2004 12:36 PM
> > Subject: [sconz] cc's rule - but turbos are better
> >
> >
> > ><blah blah blah drivel>
> >
> > ---
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> >
>
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2004-06-24 20:27:00

What boost were you on?

-----Original Message-----
From: bounce-34688-72@list.supras.org.nz
[mailto:bounce-34688-72@list.supras.org.nz] On Behalf Of Suze W
Sent: Thursday, 24 June 2004 8:25 p.m.
To: Supra Club of NZ Mailing List
Subject: RE: [sconz] cc's rule - but turbos are better

so how come i got 13.9 on a bhg??? or was that due to extreme water
injection :P

>From: "Hunt M" <5uprah@supras.co.nz>
>Reply-To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List" <sconz@list.supras.org.nz>
>To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List" <sconz@list.supras.org.nz>
>Subject: [sconz] cc's rule - but turbos are better
>Date: Thu, 24 Jun 2004 12:36:37 +1200
>
>Go get a yank tank if you want cubes - there's no substatute for cc's - yes
>there is - forced induction :)
>Now lets work this out:
>
>13.8 @ 10psi boost from a fully rebuilt 7M with larger T4 compressor wheel
>14.04 @ 9psi from a 150 k's on the clock 1G using K26 turbo that has almost
>exact same size compressor wheel as a CT26.
>
>0.2 seconds quicker - perhaps its the 1psi of boost - or maybe the fact
>that
>you have half my engine again! :)
>
>My 15.4 cents
>
>Hunt
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Suze W" <spite_girl@hotmail.com>
>To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List" <sconz@list.supras.org.nz>
>Sent: Thursday, June 17, 2004 10:38 PM
>Subject: RE: [sconz] GA70 vs MA70 - my dilemma
>
>
>no no no, 7m power baby, stay with it
>1g's are cool
>1j's are cool
>but we got the cubes ;)
>and we already know the only problem with 7m's head gaskets, one fix sweet
>as, which from what i can remember you've already done so ur home free :D
>
>instead give me the ga70 body if it's still rego'd lol ;)
>need another mk3 body for flatmate :D
>
>
>
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2004-06-24 20:28:00

2004-06-24 20:30:00

she had no boost just water injection.

>Reply-To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List" <sconz@list.supras.org.nz>

>To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List" <sconz@list.supras.org.nz>

>Subject: RE: [sconz] cc's rule - but turbos are better

>Date: Thu, 24 Jun 2004 20:27:34 +1200

>What boost were you on?

>From: bounce-34688-72@list.supras.org.nz

>[mailto:bounce-34688-72@list.supras.org.nz] On Behalf Of Suze W

>Sent: Thursday, 24 June 2004 8:25 p.m.

>Subject: RE: [sconz] cc's rule - but turbos are better

>so how come i got 13.9 on a bhg??? or was that due to extreme water

>injection :P

> >From: "Hunt M" <5uprah@supras.co.nz>

> >Reply-To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List" <sconz@list.supras.org.nz>

> >To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List" <sconz@list.supras.org.nz>

> >Subject: [sconz] cc's rule - but turbos are better

> >Date: Thu, 24 Jun 2004 12:36:37 +1200

> >Go get a yank tank if you want cubes - there's no substatute for cc's - yes

> >there is - forced induction :)

> >Now lets work this out:

> >13.8 @ 10psi boost from a fully rebuilt 7M with larger T4 compressor wheel

> >14.04 @ 9psi from a 150 k's on the clock 1G using K26 turbo that has almost

> >exact same size compressor wheel as a CT26.

> >0.2 seconds quicker - perhaps its the 1psi of boost - or maybe the fact

> >that

> >you have half my engine again! :)

> >----- Original Message -----

> >From: "Suze W" <spite_girl@hotmail.com>

> >To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List" <sconz@list.supras.org.nz>

> >Sent: Thursday, June 17, 2004 10:38 PM

> >Subject: RE: [sconz] GA70 vs MA70 - my dilemma

> >no no no, 7m power baby, stay with it

> >1g's are cool

> >1j's are cool

> >but we got the cubes ;)

> >and we already know the only problem with 7m's head gaskets, one fix sweet

> >as, which from what i can remember you've already done so ur home free :D

> >instead give me the ga70 body if it's still rego'd lol ;)

> >need another mk3 body for flatmate :D

> >Supra Club of New Zealand - http://www.supras.org.nz/

> >Website sponsored by Alltech Diesel & Turbocharger http://www.turbo.co.nz

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Theres never been a better time to get Xtra JetStream!

If you were running only 10psi like you say then a 13.9 isn't that bad at
all - I VERY VERY much doubt your BHG had ANYTHING to do with performance @
the time of the 13.9 - IF it had blown on that run or runs before it would
have been very minor and not enough to affect how the car ran - only when
you brought it back into pits or right at the end of the strip did you start
to have problems.

-----Original Message-----
From: bounce-34688-72@list.supras.org.nz
[mailto:bounce-34688-72@list.supras.org.nz] On Behalf Of Suze W
Sent: Thursday, 24 June 2004 8:25 p.m.
To: Supra Club of NZ Mailing List
Subject: RE: [sconz] cc's rule - but turbos are better

so how come i got 13.9 on a bhg??? or was that due to extreme water
injection :P

>From: "Hunt M" <5uprah@supras.co.nz>
>Reply-To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List" <sconz@list.supras.org.nz>
>To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List" <sconz@list.supras.org.nz>
>Subject: [sconz] cc's rule - but turbos are better
>Date: Thu, 24 Jun 2004 12:36:37 +1200
>
>Go get a yank tank if you want cubes - there's no substatute for cc's - yes
>there is - forced induction :)
>Now lets work this out:
>
>13.8 @ 10psi boost from a fully rebuilt 7M with larger T4 compressor wheel
>14.04 @ 9psi from a 150 k's on the clock 1G using K26 turbo that has almost
>exact same size compressor wheel as a CT26.
>
>0.2 seconds quicker - perhaps its the 1psi of boost - or maybe the fact
>that
>you have half my engine again! :)
>
>My 15.4 cents
>
>Hunt
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Suze W" <spite_girl@hotmail.com>
>To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List" <sconz@list.supras.org.nz>
>Sent: Thursday, June 17, 2004 10:38 PM
>Subject: RE: [sconz] GA70 vs MA70 - my dilemma
>
>
>no no no, 7m power baby, stay with it
>1g's are cool
>1j's are cool
>but we got the cubes ;)
>and we already know the only problem with 7m's head gaskets, one fix sweet
>as, which from what i can remember you've already done so ur home free :D
>
>instead give me the ga70 body if it's still rego'd lol ;)
>need another mk3 body for flatmate :D
>
>
>
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2004-06-24 20:39:00

Great to hear your workshop is doing well. What I cant figure is why
the reluctancy in detailing what you have actually done to acheive such
great results with your car; why? This list group is for contributors,
not vaunting.

Are your cars great daily drivers or just fast straight liners? The way
I understand it is that it's difficult to have both in a single package.

Hunt, great that you have a 14 Second car, but sounds like you have
quite some issues with it running properly. You're not listening.
Suze, you've stuffed an engine, cant say the list didn't warn you.
John, How many transmissions will it take?

Cordially,
Marc

-----Original Message-----
From: bounce-34686-25@list.supras.org.nz
[mailto:bounce-34686-25@list.supras.org.nz] On Behalf Of john shannon
Sent: Thursday, 24 June 2004 8:14 p.m.
To: Supra Club of NZ Mailing List
Subject: RE: [sconz] cc's rule - but turbos are better

Hey Hunt dont you think its funny that the 3 fastest supras are from my
work shop funny that hey.

>From: "Hunt M" <5uprah@supras.co.nz>
>Reply-To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List" <sconz@list.supras.org.nz>
>To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List" <sconz@list.supras.org.nz>
>Subject: RE: [sconz] cc's rule - but turbos are better
>Date: Thu, 24 Jun 2004 18:31:20 +1200
>
>Not at all - when racing I push my car to the limit - and then some
(anyone
>who's seen me race can vouch for this) - drag racing you only loose
traction
>and spin the wheels, and your going straight ahead so no biggie - track

>racing I would push my car to the limit as well but if I were to go
over
>that limit I could spin out and cause damage to my car - I just don't
like
>the thought of smashing up something that I have spent literally
hundreds of
>hours on to get to the level that it is at.
>Don't mention taking my car out on the road every day and about primera

>owners :)
>
>Hunt
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: bounce-34682-72@list.supras.org.nz
>[mailto:bounce-34682-72@list.supras.org.nz] On Behalf Of Cully Paterson

>Sent: Thursday, 24 June 2004 6:27 p.m.
>To: Supra Club of NZ Mailing List
>Subject: RE: [sconz] cc's rule - but turbos are better
>
>Apparently you're afraid of going around corners, so I guess I'll never

>be able to prove otherwise...
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Hunt M [mailto:5uprah@supras.co.nz]
> > Sent: Thursday, 24 June 2004 6:21 p.m.
> > To: SCONZ.list Forward
> > Subject: RE: [sconz] cc's rule - but turbos are better
> >
> > Perhaps the driver?
> >
> > Mwhaaahahaha *waits for flames* :)
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: bounce-34680-72@list.supras.org.nz
> > [mailto:bounce-34680-72@list.supras.org.nz] On Behalf Of
> > Cully Paterson
> > Sent: Thursday, 24 June 2004 6:19 p.m.
> > To: Supra Club of NZ Mailing List
> > Subject: RE: [sconz] cc's rule - but turbos are better
> >
> >
> > > All fine and dandy that Robbies car got 210rwhp @ 14psi with his
> > > single turbo conversion BUT I got 211rwhp (159rwkw) with
> > the stock TT
> > > setup @ 12 psi boost with air filter and exhaust and bleed
> > valve, ran
> > > a 14.4 with that set up then a 14.2 @ 14psi boost same day - now
> > > running 9psi and car feels and is a lot stronger than before......

> >
> > You seem entirely convinced that 1/4 mile numbers actually
> > mean something. In a road car it's just irrelevant! I
> > dyno'd with 112kw MORE than Suze got, and she's now got a
> > better 1/4 time than me. It may as well be random numbers.
> >
> > Cully
> >
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> >
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2004-06-24 20:42:00

10psi as i hadn't adjusted my controller for weeks ;)

>From: "Hunt M" <5uprah@supras.co.nz>
>Reply-To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List" <sconz@list.supras.org.nz>
>To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List" <sconz@list.supras.org.nz>
>Subject: RE: [sconz] cc's rule - but turbos are better
>Date: Thu, 24 Jun 2004 20:27:34 +1200
>
>What boost were you on?
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: bounce-34688-72@list.supras.org.nz
>[mailto:bounce-34688-72@list.supras.org.nz] On Behalf Of Suze W
>Sent: Thursday, 24 June 2004 8:25 p.m.
>To: Supra Club of NZ Mailing List
>Subject: RE: [sconz] cc's rule - but turbos are better
>
>so how come i got 13.9 on a bhg??? or was that due to extreme water
>injection :P
>
>
> >From: "Hunt M" <5uprah@supras.co.nz>
> >Reply-To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List" <sconz@list.supras.org.nz>
> >To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List" <sconz@list.supras.org.nz>
> >Subject: [sconz] cc's rule - but turbos are better
> >Date: Thu, 24 Jun 2004 12:36:37 +1200
> >
> >Go get a yank tank if you want cubes - there's no substatute for cc's -
>yes
> >there is - forced induction :)
> >Now lets work this out:
> >
> >13.8 @ 10psi boost from a fully rebuilt 7M with larger T4 compressor
>wheel
> >14.04 @ 9psi from a 150 k's on the clock 1G using K26 turbo that has
>almost
> >exact same size compressor wheel as a CT26.
> >
> >0.2 seconds quicker - perhaps its the 1psi of boost - or maybe the fact
> >that
> >you have half my engine again! :)
> >
> >My 15.4 cents
> >
> >Hunt
> >
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: "Suze W" <spite_girl@hotmail.com>
> >To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List" <sconz@list.supras.org.nz>
> >Sent: Thursday, June 17, 2004 10:38 PM
> >Subject: RE: [sconz] GA70 vs MA70 - my dilemma
> >
> >
> >no no no, 7m power baby, stay with it
> >1g's are cool
> >1j's are cool
> >but we got the cubes ;)
> >and we already know the only problem with 7m's head gaskets, one fix
>sweet
> >as, which from what i can remember you've already done so ur home free :D
> >
> >instead give me the ga70 body if it's still rego'd lol ;)
> >need another mk3 body for flatmate :D
> >
> >
> >
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>
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2004-06-24 20:43:00

so the contents of water that was... in my engine being all over the track
and the engine sounding rather terrible on the way down means my engine was
sweet? lmao

>From: "Hunt M" <5uprah@supras.co.nz>
>Reply-To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List" <sconz@list.supras.org.nz>
>To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List" <sconz@list.supras.org.nz>
>Subject: RE: [sconz] cc's rule - but turbos are better
>Date: Thu, 24 Jun 2004 20:38:29 +1200
>
>If you were running only 10psi like you say then a 13.9 isn't that bad at
>all - I VERY VERY much doubt your BHG had ANYTHING to do with performance @
>the time of the 13.9 - IF it had blown on that run or runs before it would
>have been very minor and not enough to affect how the car ran - only when
>you brought it back into pits or right at the end of the strip did you
>start
>to have problems.
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: bounce-34688-72@list.supras.org.nz
>[mailto:bounce-34688-72@list.supras.org.nz] On Behalf Of Suze W
>Sent: Thursday, 24 June 2004 8:25 p.m.
>To: Supra Club of NZ Mailing List
>Subject: RE: [sconz] cc's rule - but turbos are better
>
>so how come i got 13.9 on a bhg??? or was that due to extreme water
>injection :P
>
>
> >From: "Hunt M" <5uprah@supras.co.nz>
> >Reply-To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List" <sconz@list.supras.org.nz>
> >To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List" <sconz@list.supras.org.nz>
> >Subject: [sconz] cc's rule - but turbos are better
> >Date: Thu, 24 Jun 2004 12:36:37 +1200
> >
> >Go get a yank tank if you want cubes - there's no substatute for cc's -
>yes
> >there is - forced induction :)
> >Now lets work this out:
> >
> >13.8 @ 10psi boost from a fully rebuilt 7M with larger T4 compressor
>wheel
> >14.04 @ 9psi from a 150 k's on the clock 1G using K26 turbo that has
>almost
> >exact same size compressor wheel as a CT26.
> >
> >0.2 seconds quicker - perhaps its the 1psi of boost - or maybe the fact
> >that
> >you have half my engine again! :)
> >
> >My 15.4 cents
> >
> >Hunt
> >
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: "Suze W" <spite_girl@hotmail.com>
> >To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List" <sconz@list.supras.org.nz>
> >Sent: Thursday, June 17, 2004 10:38 PM
> >Subject: RE: [sconz] GA70 vs MA70 - my dilemma
> >
> >
> >no no no, 7m power baby, stay with it
> >1g's are cool
> >1j's are cool
> >but we got the cubes ;)
> >and we already know the only problem with 7m's head gaskets, one fix
>sweet
> >as, which from what i can remember you've already done so ur home free :D
> >
> >instead give me the ga70 body if it's still rego'd lol ;)
> >need another mk3 body for flatmate :D
> >
> >
> >
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> >Website sponsored by Alltech Diesel & Turbocharger http://www.turbo.co.nz
>
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2004-06-24 20:45:00

>Suze, you've stuffed an engine, cant say the list didn't warn you.

oh and why do you think i've done this?
ohhhh that's right the fcd thats soooo bad it will blow up my car straight
away
i do believe thats the only thing that the supra club in general believe was
the wrong way to do things
if you would like me to share i will happily do so,
and if you would like to read previous posts on what i have said about my
engine you will know why i blew it... oh and you knew this was going to
happen, would you like to enlighten me how you knew? oh and what it was
exactly that blew it?

mods to my almighty and powerful 7m
boost 10psi
3 1/2 in exhaust
filter
550x300x75 intercooler
exhaust ported head to match the manifold
to4e ct26
hks type k fuel cut defender (designed for the 7mgte)

my car is my daily driver and drag car :D

there's my big list of mods ;)

>From: Marc Archbold <marc.a@paradise.net.nz>
>Reply-To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List" <sconz@list.supras.org.nz>
>To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List" <sconz@list.supras.org.nz>
>Subject: RE: [sconz] cc's rule - but turbos are better
>Date: Thu, 24 Jun 2004 20:41:45 +1200
>
>
>Great to hear your workshop is doing well. What I cant figure is why
>the reluctancy in detailing what you have actually done to acheive such
>great results with your car; why? This list group is for contributors,
>not vaunting.
>
>Are your cars great daily drivers or just fast straight liners? The way
>I understand it is that it's difficult to have both in a single package.
>
>
>Hunt, great that you have a 14 Second car, but sounds like you have
>quite some issues with it running properly. You're not listening.
>Suze, you've stuffed an engine, cant say the list didn't warn you.
>John, How many transmissions will it take?
>
>
>Cordially,
>Marc
>
>
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: bounce-34686-25@list.supras.org.nz
>[mailto:bounce-34686-25@list.supras.org.nz] On Behalf Of john shannon
>Sent: Thursday, 24 June 2004 8:14 p.m.
>To: Supra Club of NZ Mailing List
>Subject: RE: [sconz] cc's rule - but turbos are better
>
>
>Hey Hunt dont you think its funny that the 3 fastest supras are from my
>work shop funny that hey.
>
>
> >From: "Hunt M" <5uprah@supras.co.nz>
> >Reply-To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List" <sconz@list.supras.org.nz>
> >To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List" <sconz@list.supras.org.nz>
> >Subject: RE: [sconz] cc's rule - but turbos are better
> >Date: Thu, 24 Jun 2004 18:31:20 +1200
> >
> >Not at all - when racing I push my car to the limit - and then some
>(anyone
> >who's seen me race can vouch for this) - drag racing you only loose
>traction
> >and spin the wheels, and your going straight ahead so no biggie - track
>
> >racing I would push my car to the limit as well but if I were to go
>over
> >that limit I could spin out and cause damage to my car - I just don't
>like
> >the thought of smashing up something that I have spent literally
>hundreds of
> >hours on to get to the level that it is at.
> >Don't mention taking my car out on the road every day and about primera
>
> >owners :)
> >
> >Hunt
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: bounce-34682-72@list.supras.org.nz
> >[mailto:bounce-34682-72@list.supras.org.nz] On Behalf Of Cully Paterson
>
> >Sent: Thursday, 24 June 2004 6:27 p.m.
> >To: Supra Club of NZ Mailing List
> >Subject: RE: [sconz] cc's rule - but turbos are better
> >
> >Apparently you're afraid of going around corners, so I guess I'll never
>
> >be able to prove otherwise...
> >
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Hunt M [mailto:5uprah@supras.co.nz]
> > > Sent: Thursday, 24 June 2004 6:21 p.m.
> > > To: SCONZ.list Forward
> > > Subject: RE: [sconz] cc's rule - but turbos are better
> > >
> > > Perhaps the driver?
> > >
> > > Mwhaaahahaha *waits for flames* :)
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: bounce-34680-72@list.supras.org.nz
> > > [mailto:bounce-34680-72@list.supras.org.nz] On Behalf Of
> > > Cully Paterson
> > > Sent: Thursday, 24 June 2004 6:19 p.m.
> > > To: Supra Club of NZ Mailing List
> > > Subject: RE: [sconz] cc's rule - but turbos are better
> > >
> > >
> > > > All fine and dandy that Robbies car got 210rwhp @ 14psi with his
> > > > single turbo conversion BUT I got 211rwhp (159rwkw) with
> > > the stock TT
> > > > setup @ 12 psi boost with air filter and exhaust and bleed
> > > valve, ran
> > > > a 14.4 with that set up then a 14.2 @ 14psi boost same day - now
> > > > running 9psi and car feels and is a lot stronger than before......
>
> > >
> > > You seem entirely convinced that 1/4 mile numbers actually
> > > mean something. In a road car it's just irrelevant! I
> > > dyno'd with 112kw MORE than Suze got, and she's now got a
> > > better 1/4 time than me. It may as well be random numbers.
> > >
> > > Cully
> > >
> > > ---
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> > >
> > >
> > > ---
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> > > sponsored by Alltech Diesel & Turbocharger http://www.turbo.co.nz
> > >
> >
> >---
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> >Website sponsored by Alltech Diesel & Turbocharger
>http://www.turbo.co.nz
> >
> >
> >---
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> >Website sponsored by Alltech Diesel & Turbocharger
>http://www.turbo.co.nz
>
>
>
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2004-06-24 20:52:00

Most important compare axle ratios; 3.75ish vs 4.5
----- Original Message -----
From: "Cully Paterson" <cully@supras.org.nz>
To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List" <sconz@list.supras.org.nz>
Sent: Thursday, June 24, 2004 12:46 PM
Subject: Re: [sconz] cc's rule - but turbos are better

> ...and vehicle weight, especially when it comes to Hunt's no-options
bare-as
> GA70 vs Rob's fully spec'd MA70...
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Lachlan Chapman" <Lachlan.Chapman@coel.co.nz>
> To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List" <sconz@list.supras.org.nz>
> Sent: Thursday, June 24, 2004 12:44 PM
> Subject: Re: [sconz] cc's rule - but turbos are better
>
>
> > Compare the trap speeds, not the 1/4 times if you want to compare
power...
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Hunt M" <5uprah@supras.co.nz>
> > To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List" <sconz@list.supras.org.nz>
> > Sent: Thursday, June 24, 2004 12:36 PM
> > Subject: [sconz] cc's rule - but turbos are better
> >
> >
> > ><blah blah blah drivel>
> >
> > ---
> > Supra Club of New Zealand - http://www.supras.org.nz/
> > Website sponsored by Alltech Diesel & Turbocharger
http://www.turbo.co.nz
> >
>
>
> ---
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2004-06-24 20:57:00

<Rob M>

Perhaps it's a way of contributing - sort of like "look this is what I did
and look at the result" - of course often not positive but sometimes.

Yes my car is my daily driver - yes I want it to be a fast straight liner
but like you say it is very difficult to have both in the same package -
hence not wanting to turn boost over 9psi - for now.

I have issues with my car running properly - yes - but hey how can you find
out what the limit of something is without going over it - remembering that
generally what I have done no-one else has so there is no help or solid
advice available - when there is I thank you all - even though I often will
try my own theories first :)

Suze - yes your engine blew - bugger - perhaps you should get a 1G - oh wait
no no cos at least now when I beat you, you can say "oh it must be because
he has a 1G" :)

John - yes you do seem to be going through a lot of gearboxes - not really a
lot you could do about it - go manual? Sure you could but perhaps you'd end
up going through the same amount of clutches?

Moral of the story is thus - you're grandparents Toyota Camry - is a lot
more reliable than your supra - you're friends Corolla never breaks down -
aren't exactly performance cars - how often do you see a F1 car or a V8
super car go season after season without having anything replaced? Not
often....

Hunt

-----Original Message-----
From: bounce-34698-72@list.supras.org.nz
[mailto:bounce-34698-72@list.supras.org.nz] On Behalf Of Marc Archbold
Sent: Thursday, 24 June 2004 8:42 p.m.
To: Supra Club of NZ Mailing List
Subject: RE: [sconz] cc's rule - but turbos are better

Great to hear your workshop is doing well. What I cant figure is why
the reluctancy in detailing what you have actually done to acheive such
great results with your car; why? This list group is for contributors,
not vaunting.

Are your cars great daily drivers or just fast straight liners? The way
I understand it is that it's difficult to have both in a single package.

Hunt, great that you have a 14 Second car, but sounds like you have
quite some issues with it running properly. You're not listening.
Suze, you've stuffed an engine, cant say the list didn't warn you.
John, How many transmissions will it take?

Cordially,
Marc

-----Original Message-----
From: bounce-34686-25@list.supras.org.nz
[mailto:bounce-34686-25@list.supras.org.nz] On Behalf Of john shannon
Sent: Thursday, 24 June 2004 8:14 p.m.
To: Supra Club of NZ Mailing List
Subject: RE: [sconz] cc's rule - but turbos are better

Hey Hunt dont you think its funny that the 3 fastest supras are from my
work shop funny that hey.

>From: "Hunt M" <5uprah@supras.co.nz>
>Reply-To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List" <sconz@list.supras.org.nz>
>To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List" <sconz@list.supras.org.nz>
>Subject: RE: [sconz] cc's rule - but turbos are better
>Date: Thu, 24 Jun 2004 18:31:20 +1200
>
>Not at all - when racing I push my car to the limit - and then some
(anyone
>who's seen me race can vouch for this) - drag racing you only loose
traction
>and spin the wheels, and your going straight ahead so no biggie - track

>racing I would push my car to the limit as well but if I were to go
over
>that limit I could spin out and cause damage to my car - I just don't
like
>the thought of smashing up something that I have spent literally
hundreds of
>hours on to get to the level that it is at.
>Don't mention taking my car out on the road every day and about primera

>owners :)
>
>Hunt
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: bounce-34682-72@list.supras.org.nz
>[mailto:bounce-34682-72@list.supras.org.nz] On Behalf Of Cully Paterson

>Sent: Thursday, 24 June 2004 6:27 p.m.
>To: Supra Club of NZ Mailing List
>Subject: RE: [sconz] cc's rule - but turbos are better
>
>Apparently you're afraid of going around corners, so I guess I'll never

>be able to prove otherwise...
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Hunt M [mailto:5uprah@supras.co.nz]
> > Sent: Thursday, 24 June 2004 6:21 p.m.
> > To: SCONZ.list Forward
> > Subject: RE: [sconz] cc's rule - but turbos are better
> >
> > Perhaps the driver?
> >
> > Mwhaaahahaha *waits for flames* :)
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: bounce-34680-72@list.supras.org.nz
> > [mailto:bounce-34680-72@list.supras.org.nz] On Behalf Of
> > Cully Paterson
> > Sent: Thursday, 24 June 2004 6:19 p.m.
> > To: Supra Club of NZ Mailing List
> > Subject: RE: [sconz] cc's rule - but turbos are better
> >
> >
> > > All fine and dandy that Robbies car got 210rwhp @ 14psi with his
> > > single turbo conversion BUT I got 211rwhp (159rwkw) with
> > the stock TT
> > > setup @ 12 psi boost with air filter and exhaust and bleed
> > valve, ran
> > > a 14.4 with that set up then a 14.2 @ 14psi boost same day - now
> > > running 9psi and car feels and is a lot stronger than before......

> >
> > You seem entirely convinced that 1/4 mile numbers actually
> > mean something. In a road car it's just irrelevant! I
> > dyno'd with 112kw MORE than Suze got, and she's now got a
> > better 1/4 time than me. It may as well be random numbers.
> >
> > Cully
> >
> > ---
> > Supra Club of New Zealand - http://www.supras.org.nz/ Website
> > sponsored by Alltech Diesel & Turbocharger http://www.turbo.co.nz
> >
> >
> > ---
> > Supra Club of New Zealand - http://www.supras.org.nz/ Website
> > sponsored by Alltech Diesel & Turbocharger http://www.turbo.co.nz
> >
>
>---
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>Website sponsored by Alltech Diesel & Turbocharger
http://www.turbo.co.nz
>
>
>---
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The water only spurted out at the END of the strip!! I should know because
(hate admitting this) but I was behind you during that race!!!
And the water all over your engine bay etc was from that water heater hose
blowing off - sure a BHG will pressurise the cooling system but the hose
that blew off wasn't held on by the newest or strongest hose clip was it?

-----Original Message-----
From: bounce-34702-72@list.supras.org.nz
[mailto:bounce-34702-72@list.supras.org.nz] On Behalf Of Suze W
Sent: Thursday, 24 June 2004 8:45 p.m.
To: Supra Club of NZ Mailing List
Subject: RE: [sconz] cc's rule - but turbos are better

so the contents of water that was... in my engine being all over the track
and the engine sounding rather terrible on the way down means my engine was
sweet? lmao

>From: "Hunt M" <5uprah@supras.co.nz>
>Reply-To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List" <sconz@list.supras.org.nz>
>To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List" <sconz@list.supras.org.nz>
>Subject: RE: [sconz] cc's rule - but turbos are better
>Date: Thu, 24 Jun 2004 20:38:29 +1200
>
>If you were running only 10psi like you say then a 13.9 isn't that bad at
>all - I VERY VERY much doubt your BHG had ANYTHING to do with performance @
>the time of the 13.9 - IF it had blown on that run or runs before it would
>have been very minor and not enough to affect how the car ran - only when
>you brought it back into pits or right at the end of the strip did you
>start
>to have problems.
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: bounce-34688-72@list.supras.org.nz
>[mailto:bounce-34688-72@list.supras.org.nz] On Behalf Of Suze W
>Sent: Thursday, 24 June 2004 8:25 p.m.
>To: Supra Club of NZ Mailing List
>Subject: RE: [sconz] cc's rule - but turbos are better
>
>so how come i got 13.9 on a bhg??? or was that due to extreme water
>injection :P
>
>
> >From: "Hunt M" <5uprah@supras.co.nz>
> >Reply-To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List" <sconz@list.supras.org.nz>
> >To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List" <sconz@list.supras.org.nz>
> >Subject: [sconz] cc's rule - but turbos are better
> >Date: Thu, 24 Jun 2004 12:36:37 +1200
> >
> >Go get a yank tank if you want cubes - there's no substatute for cc's -
>yes
> >there is - forced induction :)
> >Now lets work this out:
> >
> >13.8 @ 10psi boost from a fully rebuilt 7M with larger T4 compressor
>wheel
> >14.04 @ 9psi from a 150 k's on the clock 1G using K26 turbo that has
>almost
> >exact same size compressor wheel as a CT26.
> >
> >0.2 seconds quicker - perhaps its the 1psi of boost - or maybe the fact
> >that
> >you have half my engine again! :)
> >
> >My 15.4 cents
> >
> >Hunt
> >
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: "Suze W" <spite_girl@hotmail.com>
> >To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List" <sconz@list.supras.org.nz>
> >Sent: Thursday, June 17, 2004 10:38 PM
> >Subject: RE: [sconz] GA70 vs MA70 - my dilemma
> >
> >
> >no no no, 7m power baby, stay with it
> >1g's are cool
> >1j's are cool
> >but we got the cubes ;)
> >and we already know the only problem with 7m's head gaskets, one fix
>sweet
> >as, which from what i can remember you've already done so ur home free :D
> >
> >instead give me the ga70 body if it's still rego'd lol ;)
> >need another mk3 body for flatmate :D
> >
> >
> >
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>
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>
>
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>From: "Rob M" <r.moorhouse@xtra.co.nz>

I think we need to do a supra day at the drags very soon to sort this out.

>Reply-To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List" <sconz@list.supras.org.nz>

>To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List" <sconz@list.supras.org.nz>

>Subject: Re: [sconz] cc's rule - but turbos are better

>Date: Thu, 24 Jun 2004 20:56:59 +1200

>Most important compare axle ratios; 3.75ish vs 4.5

>----- Original Message -----

>From: "Cully Paterson" <cully@supras.org.nz>

>To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List" <sconz@list.supras.org.nz>

>Sent: Thursday, June 24, 2004 12:46 PM

>Subject: Re: [sconz] cc's rule - but turbos are better

> > ...and vehicle weight, especially when it comes to Hunt's no-options

>bare-as

> > GA70 vs Rob's fully spec'd MA70...

> > ----- Original Message -----

> > From: "Lachlan Chapman" <Lachlan.Chapman@coel.co.nz>

> > To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List" <sconz@list.supras.org.nz>

> > Sent: Thursday, June 24, 2004 12:44 PM

> > Subject: Re: [sconz] cc's rule - but turbos are better

> > > Compare the trap speeds, not the 1/4 times if you want to compare

>power...

> > > ----- Original Message -----

> > > From: "Hunt M" <5uprah@supras.co.nz>

> > > To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List" <sconz@list.supras.org.nz>

> > > Sent: Thursday, June 24, 2004 12:36 PM

> > > Subject: [sconz] cc's rule - but turbos are better

> > > ><blah blah blah drivel>

> > > Supra Club of New Zealand - http://www.supras.org.nz/

> > > ---

> > > Website sponsored by Alltech Diesel & Turbocharger

> > Supra Club of New Zealand - http://www.supras.org.nz/

> > ---

> > Website sponsored by Alltech Diesel & Turbocharger http://www.turbo.co.nz

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axle ratios as in diff?
mine is a 4.1 torsen :)
sorry forgot to add that to my mods :)

>From: "Rob M" <r.moorhouse@xtra.co.nz>
>Reply-To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List" <sconz@list.supras.org.nz>
>To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List" <sconz@list.supras.org.nz>
>Subject: Re: [sconz] cc's rule - but turbos are better
>Date: Thu, 24 Jun 2004 20:56:59 +1200
>
>Most important compare axle ratios; 3.75ish vs 4.5
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Cully Paterson" <cully@supras.org.nz>
>To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List" <sconz@list.supras.org.nz>
>Sent: Thursday, June 24, 2004 12:46 PM
>Subject: Re: [sconz] cc's rule - but turbos are better
>
>
> > ...and vehicle weight, especially when it comes to Hunt's no-options
>bare-as
> > GA70 vs Rob's fully spec'd MA70...
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Lachlan Chapman" <Lachlan.Chapman@coel.co.nz>
> > To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List" <sconz@list.supras.org.nz>
> > Sent: Thursday, June 24, 2004 12:44 PM
> > Subject: Re: [sconz] cc's rule - but turbos are better
> >
> >
> > > Compare the trap speeds, not the 1/4 times if you want to compare
>power...
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Hunt M" <5uprah@supras.co.nz>
> > > To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List" <sconz@list.supras.org.nz>
> > > Sent: Thursday, June 24, 2004 12:36 PM
> > > Subject: [sconz] cc's rule - but turbos are better
> > >
> > >
> > > ><blah blah blah drivel>
> > >
> > > ---
> > > Supra Club of New Zealand - http://www.supras.org.nz/
> > > Website sponsored by Alltech Diesel & Turbocharger
>http://www.turbo.co.nz
> > >
> >
> >
> > ---
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> > Website sponsored by Alltech Diesel & Turbocharger
>http://www.turbo.co.nz
>
>
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4.7:1 actually..... :)

-----Original Message-----
From: bounce-34706-72@list.supras.org.nz
[mailto:bounce-34706-72@list.supras.org.nz] On Behalf Of Rob M
Sent: Thursday, 24 June 2004 8:57 p.m.
To: Supra Club of NZ Mailing List
Subject: Re: [sconz] cc's rule - but turbos are better

Most important compare axle ratios; 3.75ish vs 4.5
----- Original Message -----
From: "Cully Paterson" <cully@supras.org.nz>
To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List" <sconz@list.supras.org.nz>
Sent: Thursday, June 24, 2004 12:46 PM
Subject: Re: [sconz] cc's rule - but turbos are better

> ...and vehicle weight, especially when it comes to Hunt's no-options
bare-as
> GA70 vs Rob's fully spec'd MA70...
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Lachlan Chapman" <Lachlan.Chapman@coel.co.nz>
> To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List" <sconz@list.supras.org.nz>
> Sent: Thursday, June 24, 2004 12:44 PM
> Subject: Re: [sconz] cc's rule - but turbos are better
>
>
> > Compare the trap speeds, not the 1/4 times if you want to compare
power...
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Hunt M" <5uprah@supras.co.nz>
> > To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List" <sconz@list.supras.org.nz>
> > Sent: Thursday, June 24, 2004 12:36 PM
> > Subject: [sconz] cc's rule - but turbos are better
> >
> >
> > ><blah blah blah drivel>
> >
> > ---
> > Supra Club of New Zealand - http://www.supras.org.nz/
> > Website sponsored by Alltech Diesel & Turbocharger
http://www.turbo.co.nz
> >
>
>
> ---
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2004-06-24 21:02:00

2004-06-24 21:06:00

2004-06-24 21:09:00

Thats right hunt but the manual will slow me down and think about it what is the longest time my car as been off the road not long hey eny were from 1 to 5 days,

>Reply-To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List" <sconz@list.supras.org.nz>

>To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List" <sconz@list.supras.org.nz>

>Subject: RE: [sconz] cc's rule - but turbos are better

>Date: Thu, 24 Jun 2004 21:01:23 +1200

>Perhaps it's a way of contributing - sort of like "look this is what I did

>and look at the result" - of course often not positive but sometimes.

>Yes my car is my daily driver - yes I want it to be a fast straight liner

>but like you say it is very difficult to have both in the same package -

>hence not wanting to turn boost over 9psi - for now.

>I have issues with my car running properly - yes - but hey how can you find

>out what the limit of something is without going over it - remembering that

>generally what I have done no-one else has so there is no help or solid

>advice available - when there is I thank you all - even though I often will

>try my own theories first :)

>Suze - yes your engine blew - bugger - perhaps you should get a 1G - oh wait

>no no cos at least now when I beat you, you can say "oh it must be because

>he has a 1G" :)

>John - yes you do seem to be going through a lot of gearboxes - not really a

>lot you could do about it - go manual? Sure you could but perhaps you'd end

>up going through the same amount of clutches?

>Moral of the story is thus - you're grandparents Toyota Camry - is a lot

>more reliable than your supra - you're friends Corolla never breaks down -

>aren't exactly performance cars - how often do you see a F1 car or a V8

>super car go season after season without having anything replaced? Not

>often....

>Hunt

>From: bounce-34698-72@list.supras.org.nz

>[mailto:bounce-34698-72@list.supras.org.nz] On Behalf Of Marc Archbold

>Sent: Thursday, 24 June 2004 8:42 p.m.

>Subject: RE: [sconz] cc's rule - but turbos are better

>Great to hear your workshop is doing well. What I cant figure is why

>the reluctancy in detailing what you have actually done to acheive such

>great results with your car; why? This list group is for contributors,

>not vaunting.

>Are your cars great daily drivers or just fast straight liners? The way

>I understand it is that it's difficult to have both in a single package.

>Hunt, great that you have a 14 Second car, but sounds like you have

>quite some issues with it running properly. You're not listening.

>Suze, you've stuffed an engine, cant say the list didn't warn you.

>John, How many transmissions will it take?

>Cordially,

>Marc

>From: bounce-34686-25@list.supras.org.nz

>[mailto:bounce-34686-25@list.supras.org.nz] On Behalf Of john shannon

>Sent: Thursday, 24 June 2004 8:14 p.m.

>Subject: RE: [sconz] cc's rule - but turbos are better

>Hey Hunt dont you think its funny that the 3 fastest supras are from my

>work shop funny that hey.

> >From: "Hunt M" <5uprah@supras.co.nz>

> >Reply-To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List" <sconz@list.supras.org.nz>

> >To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List" <sconz@list.supras.org.nz>

> >Subject: RE: [sconz] cc's rule - but turbos are better

> >Date: Thu, 24 Jun 2004 18:31:20 +1200

> >Not at all - when racing I push my car to the limit - and then some

>(anyone

> >who's seen me race can vouch for this) - drag racing you only loose

>traction

> >and spin the wheels, and your going straight ahead so no biggie - track

> >racing I would push my car to the limit as well but if I were to go

>over

> >that limit I could spin out and cause damage to my car - I just don't

>like

> >the thought of smashing up something that I have spent literally

>hundreds of

> >hours on to get to the level that it is at.

> >Don't mention taking my car out on the road every day and about primera

> >From: bounce-34682-72@list.supras.org.nz

> >[mailto:bounce-34682-72@list.supras.org.nz] On Behalf Of Cully Paterson

> >Sent: Thursday, 24 June 2004 6:27 p.m.

> >Subject: RE: [sconz] cc's rule - but turbos are better

> >Apparently you're afraid of going around corners, so I guess I'll never

> >be able to prove otherwise...

> > > -----Original Message-----

> > > From: Hunt M [mailto:5uprah@supras.co.nz]

> > > Sent: Thursday, 24 June 2004 6:21 p.m.

> > > To: SCONZ.list Forward

> > > Subject: RE: [sconz] cc's rule - but turbos are better

> > > Perhaps the driver?

> > > Mwhaaahahaha *waits for flames* :)

> > > -----Original Message-----

> > > From: bounce-34680-72@list.supras.org.nz

> > > [mailto:bounce-34680-72@list.supras.org.nz] On Behalf Of

> > > Cully Paterson

> > > Sent: Thursday, 24 June 2004 6:19 p.m.

> > > To: Supra Club of NZ Mailing List

> > > Subject: RE: [sconz] cc's rule - but turbos are better

> > > > All fine and dandy that Robbies car got 210rwhp @ 14psi with his

> > > > single turbo conversion BUT I got 211rwhp (159rwkw) with

> > > the stock TT

> > > > setup @ 12 psi boost with air filter and exhaust and bleed

> > > valve, ran

> > > > a 14.4 with that set up then a 14.2 @ 14psi boost same day - now

> > > > running 9psi and car feels and is a lot stronger than before......

> > > You seem entirely convinced that 1/4 mile numbers actually

> > > mean something. In a road car it's just irrelevant! I

> > > dyno'd with 112kw MORE than Suze got, and she's now got a

> > > better 1/4 time than me. It may as well be random numbers.

> > > Supra Club of New Zealand - http://www.supras.org.nz/ Website

> > > sponsored by Alltech Diesel & Turbocharger http://www.turbo.co.nz

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2004-06-24 21:11:00

I have very little time to work on my car - especially of late - a lot of
things to sort out - I would work on my car at night and early hours of
morning but I need daylight..

_____

From: bounce-34714-72@list.supras.org.nz
[mailto:bounce-34714-72@list.supras.org.nz] On Behalf Of john shannon
Sent: Thursday, 24 June 2004 9:09 p.m.
To: Supra Club of NZ Mailing List
Subject: RE: [sconz] cc's rule - but turbos are better

Thats right hunt but the manual will slow me down and think about it what is
the longest time my car as been off the road not long hey eny were from 1 to
5 days,

>From: "Hunt M" <5uprah@supras.co.nz>

>Reply-To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List" <sconz@list.supras.org.nz>

>To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List" <sconz@list.supras.org.nz>

>Subject: RE: [sconz] cc's rule - but turbos are better

>Date: Thu, 24 Jun 2004 21:01:23 +1200

>

>Perhaps it's a way of contributing - sort of like "look this is what I did

>and look at the result" - of course often not positive but sometimes.

>

>Yes my car is my daily driver - yes I want it to be a fast straight liner

>but like you say it is very difficult to have both in the same package -

>hence not wanting to turn boost over 9psi - for now.

>

>I have issues with my car running properly - yes - but hey how can you find

>out what the limit of something is without going over it - remembering that

>generally what I have done no-one else has so there is no help or solid

>advice available - when there is I thank you all - even though I often will

>try my own theories first :)

>

>Suze - yes your engine blew - bugger - perhaps you should get a 1G - oh
wait

>no no cos at least now when I beat you, you can say "oh it must be because

>he has a 1G" :)

>

>John - yes you do seem to be going through a lot of gearboxes - not really
a

>lot you could do about it - go manual? Sure you could but perhaps you'd end

>up going through the same amount of clutches?

>

>Moral of the story is thus - you're grandparents Toyota Camry - is a lot

>more reliable than your supra - you're friends Corolla never breaks down -

>aren't exactly performance cars - how often do you see a F1 car or a V8

>super car go season after season without having anything replaced? Not

>often....

>

>Hunt

>

>-----Original Message-----

>From: bounce-34698-72@list.supras.org.nz

>[mailto:bounce-34698-72@list.supras.org.nz] On Behalf Of Marc Archbold

>Sent: Thursday, 24 June 2004 8:42 p.m.

>To: Supra Club of NZ Mailing List

>Subject: RE: [sconz] cc's rule - but turbos are better

>

>

>Great to hear your workshop is doing well. What I cant figure is why

>the reluctancy in detailing what you have actually done to acheive such

>great results with your car; why? This list group is for contributors,

>not vaunting.

>

>Are your cars great daily drivers or just fast straight liners? The way

>I understand it is that it's difficult to have both in a single package.

>

>

>Hunt, great that you have a 14 Second car, but sounds like you have

>quite some issues with it running properly. You're not listening.

>Suze, you've stuffed an engine, cant say the list didn't warn you.

>John, How many transmissions will it take?

>

>

>Cordially,

>Marc

>

>

>

>

>-----Original Message-----

>From: bounce-34686-25@list.supras.org.nz

>[mailto:bounce-34686-25@list.supras.org.nz] On Behalf Of john shannon

>Sent: Thursday, 24 June 2004 8:14 p.m.

>To: Supra Club of NZ Mailing List

>Subject: RE: [sconz] cc's rule - but turbos are better

>

>

>Hey Hunt dont you think its funny that the 3 fastest supras are from my

>work shop funny that hey.

>

>

> >From: "Hunt M" <5uprah@supras.co.nz>

> >Reply-To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List" <sconz@list.supras.org.nz>

> >To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List" <sconz@list.supras.org.nz>

> >Subject: RE: [sconz] cc's rule - but turbos are better

> >Date: Thu, 24 Jun 2004 18:31:20 +1200

> >

> >Not at all - when racing I push my car to the limit - and then some

>(anyone

> >who's seen me race can vouch for this) - drag racing you only loose

>traction

> >and spin the wheels, and your going straight ahead so no biggie - track

>

> >racing I would push my car to the limit as well but if I were to go

>over

> >that limit I could spin out and cause damage to my car - I just don't

>like

> >the thought of smashing up something that I have spent literally

>hundreds of

> >hours on to get to the level that it is at.

> >Don't mention taking my car out on the road every day and about primera

>

> >owners :)

> >

> >Hunt

> >

> >-----Original Message-----

> >From: bounce-34682-72@list.supras.org.nz

> >[mailto:bounce-34682-72@list.supras.org.nz] On Behalf Of Cully Paterson

>

> >Sent: Thursday, 24 June 2004 6:27 p.m.

> >To: Supra Club of NZ Mailing List

> >Subject: RE: [sconz] cc's rule - but turbos are better

> >

> >Apparently you're afraid of going around corners, so I guess I'll never

>

> >be able to prove otherwise...

> >

> >

> > > -----Original Message-----

> > > From: Hunt M [mailto:5uprah@supras.co.nz]

> > > Sent: Thursday, 24 June 2004 6:21 p.m.

> > > To: SCONZ.list Forward

> > > Subject: RE: [sconz] cc's rule - but turbos are better

> > >

> > > Perhaps the driver?

> > >

> > > Mwhaaahahaha *waits for flames* :)

> > >

> > > -----Original Message-----

> > > From: bounce-34680-72@list.supras.org.nz

> > > [mailto:bounce-34680-72@list.supras.org.nz] On Behalf Of

> > > Cully Paterson

> > > Sent: Thursday, 24 June 2004 6:19 p.m.

> > > To: Supra Club of NZ Mailing List

> > > Subject: RE: [sconz] cc's rule - but turbos are better

> > >

> > >

> > > > All fine and dandy that Robbies car got 210rwhp @ 14psi with his

> > > > single turbo conversion BUT I got 211rwhp (159rwkw) with

> > > the stock TT

> > > > setup @ 12 psi boost with air filter and exhaust and bleed

> > > valve, ran

> > > > a 14.4 with that set up then a 14.2 @ 14psi boost same day - now

> > > > running 9psi and car feels and is a lot stronger than before......

>

> > >

> > > You seem entirely convinced that 1/4 mile numbers actually

> > > mean something. In a road car it's just irrelevant! I

> > > dyno'd with 112kw MORE than Suze got, and she's now got a

> > > better 1/4 time than me. It may as well be random numbers.

> > >

> > > Cully

> > >

> > > ---

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> > > sponsored by Alltech Diesel & Turbocharger http://www.turbo.co.nz

> > >

> > >

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> > >

> >

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>

>

>

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2004-06-24 21:12:00

2004-06-24 21:15:00

That was about half track i now that becouse you left the water for me to spin out lol

>Reply-To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List" <sconz@list.supras.org.nz>

>To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List" <sconz@list.supras.org.nz>

>Subject: RE: [sconz] cc's rule - but turbos are better

>Date: Thu, 24 Jun 2004 21:10:32 +1200

>Ok I was sure that the hose clamp used was a standard squeeze and ease

>Toyota one.... clearly mistaken

>If it were as new as you say - then yes - odd that it blew off IF the HG

>wasn't very blown - had the hose split?

>I do recall you saying that whilst you were doing your burn out on the line

>you noticed water on your windscreen - odd - if that hose had blown off it

>would be pissing out something chronic ALL the way down the track - which is

>WAS NOT!

>From: bounce-34713-72@list.supras.org.nz

>[mailto:bounce-34713-72@list.supras.org.nz] On Behalf Of Suze W

>Sent: Thursday, 24 June 2004 9:06 p.m.

>Subject: RE: [sconz] cc's rule - but turbos are better

>tell you what hunt, i'll bring the hose clamp which was a norma type one to

>work tomorra and show you it shall i, i replaced it a year ago when i

>repaired the hg the first time :P

>so a one year old clamp should hold on fairly well and the fact that we had

>to loosen it severly to get it back on so we could start cooling the engine

>so we didn't end up with warpage issues ;)

>and the hose i blew off was the main feed to the head so i would assume

>thats fairly serious :P

> >From: "Hunt M" <5uprah@supras.co.nz>

> >Reply-To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List" <sconz@list.supras.org.nz>

> >To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List" <sconz@list.supras.org.nz>

> >Subject: RE: [sconz] cc's rule - but turbos are better

> >Date: Thu, 24 Jun 2004 21:00:47 +1200

> >The water only spurted out at the END of the strip!! I should know because

> >(hate admitting this) but I was behind you during that race!!!

> >And the water all over your engine bay etc was from that water heater hose

> >blowing off - sure a BHG will pressurise the cooling system but the hose

> >that blew off wasn't held on by the newest or strongest hose clip was it?

> >From: bounce-34702-72@list.supras.org.nz

> >[mailto:bounce-34702-72@list.supras.org.nz] On Behalf Of Suze W

> >Sent: Thursday, 24 June 2004 8:45 p.m.

> >Subject: RE: [sconz] cc's rule - but turbos are better

> >so the contents of water that was... in my engine being all over the track

> >and the engine sounding rather terrible on the way down means my engine was

> >sweet? lmao

> > >From: "Hunt M" <5uprah@supras.co.nz>

> > >Reply-To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List" <sconz@list.supras.org.nz>

> > >To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List" <sconz@list.supras.org.nz>

> > >Subject: RE: [sconz] cc's rule - but turbos are better

> > >Date: Thu, 24 Jun 2004 20:38:29 +1200

> > >If you were running only 10psi like you say then a 13.9 isn't that bad at

> > >all - I VERY VERY much doubt your BHG had ANYTHING to do with performance

> >@

> > >the time of the 13.9 - IF it had blown on that run or runs before it

> >would

> > >have been very minor and not enough to affect how the car ran - only when

> > >you brought it back into pits or right at the end of the strip did you

> > >start

> > >to have problems.

> > >-----Original Message-----

> > >From: bounce-34688-72@list.supras.org.nz

> > >[mailto:bounce-34688-72@list.supras.org.nz] On Behalf Of Suze W

> > >Sent: Thursday, 24 June 2004 8:25 p.m.

> > >To: Supra Club of NZ Mailing List

> > >Subject: RE: [sconz] cc's rule - but turbos are better

> > >so how come i got 13.9 on a bhg??? or was that due to extreme water

> > >injection :P

> > > >From: "Hunt M" <5uprah@supras.co.nz>

> > > >Reply-To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List" <sconz@list.supras.org.nz>

> > > >To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List" <sconz@list.supras.org.nz>

> > > >Subject: [sconz] cc's rule - but turbos are better

> > > >Date: Thu, 24 Jun 2004 12:36:37 +1200

> > > >Go get a yank tank if you want cubes - there's no substatute for cc's -

> > >yes

> > > >there is - forced induction :)

> > > >Now lets work this out:

> > > >13.8 @ 10psi boost from a fully rebuilt 7M with larger T4 compressor

> > >wheel

> > > >14.04 @ 9psi from a 150 k's on the clock 1G using K26 turbo that has

> > >almost

> > > >exact same size compressor wheel as a CT26.

> > > >0.2 seconds quicker - perhaps its the 1psi of boost - or maybe the fact

> > > >that

> > > >you have half my engine again! :)

> > > >----- Original Message -----

> > > >From: "Suze W" <spite_girl@hotmail.com>

> > > >To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List" <sconz@list.supras.org.nz>

> > > >Sent: Thursday, June 17, 2004 10:38 PM

> > > >Subject: RE: [sconz] GA70 vs MA70 - my dilemma

> > > >no no no, 7m power baby, stay with it

> > > >1g's are cool

> > > >1j's are cool

> > > >but we got the cubes ;)

> > > >and we already know the only problem with 7m's head gaskets, one fix

> > >sweet

> > > >as, which from what i can remember you've already done so ur home free

> >:D

> > > >instead give me the ga70 body if it's still rego'd lol ;)

> > > >need another mk3 body for flatmate :D

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2004-06-24 21:15:00

Not the FCD entirely, but Im sure that contributed.

You blew it because you didn't and still don't understand. Nor will you
take advice.
Your website explains it thoroughly and yes a JZ engine will fail when
you don't understand what you're doing. The major detonation shown on
your website is a conclusive example of this.

Cordially,
Marc

-----Original Message-----
From: bounce-34705-25@list.supras.org.nz
[mailto:bounce-34705-25@list.supras.org.nz] On Behalf Of Suze W
Sent: Thursday, 24 June 2004 8:52 p.m.
To: Supra Club of NZ Mailing List
Subject: RE: [sconz] cc's rule - but turbos are better

>Suze, you've stuffed an engine, cant say the list didn't warn you.

oh and why do you think i've done this?
ohhhh that's right the fcd thats soooo bad it will blow up my car
straight
away
i do believe thats the only thing that the supra club in general believe
was
the wrong way to do things
if you would like me to share i will happily do so,
and if you would like to read previous posts on what i have said about
my
engine you will know why i blew it... oh and you knew this was going to
happen, would you like to enlighten me how you knew? oh and what it was
exactly that blew it?

mods to my almighty and powerful 7m
boost 10psi
3 1/2 in exhaust
filter
550x300x75 intercooler
exhaust ported head to match the manifold
to4e ct26
hks type k fuel cut defender (designed for the 7mgte)

my car is my daily driver and drag car :D

there's my big list of mods ;)

>From: Marc Archbold <marc.a@paradise.net.nz>
>Reply-To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List" <sconz@list.supras.org.nz>
>To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List" <sconz@list.supras.org.nz>
>Subject: RE: [sconz] cc's rule - but turbos are better
>Date: Thu, 24 Jun 2004 20:41:45 +1200
>
>
>Great to hear your workshop is doing well. What I cant figure is why
>the reluctancy in detailing what you have actually done to acheive such

>great results with your car; why? This list group is for contributors,

>not vaunting.
>
>Are your cars great daily drivers or just fast straight liners? The
>way I understand it is that it's difficult to have both in a single
>package.
>
>
>Hunt, great that you have a 14 Second car, but sounds like you have
>quite some issues with it running properly. You're not listening.
>Suze, you've stuffed an engine, cant say the list didn't warn you.
>John, How many transmissions will it take?
>
>
>Cordially,
>Marc
>
>
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: bounce-34686-25@list.supras.org.nz
>[mailto:bounce-34686-25@list.supras.org.nz] On Behalf Of john shannon
>Sent: Thursday, 24 June 2004 8:14 p.m.
>To: Supra Club of NZ Mailing List
>Subject: RE: [sconz] cc's rule - but turbos are better
>
>
>Hey Hunt dont you think its funny that the 3 fastest supras are from my

>work shop funny that hey.
>
>
> >From: "Hunt M" <5uprah@supras.co.nz>
> >Reply-To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List" <sconz@list.supras.org.nz>
> >To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List" <sconz@list.supras.org.nz>
> >Subject: RE: [sconz] cc's rule - but turbos are better
> >Date: Thu, 24 Jun 2004 18:31:20 +1200
> >
> >Not at all - when racing I push my car to the limit - and then some
>(anyone
> >who's seen me race can vouch for this) - drag racing you only loose
>traction
> >and spin the wheels, and your going straight ahead so no biggie -
> >track
>
> >racing I would push my car to the limit as well but if I were to go
>over
> >that limit I could spin out and cause damage to my car - I just don't
>like
> >the thought of smashing up something that I have spent literally
>hundreds of
> >hours on to get to the level that it is at.
> >Don't mention taking my car out on the road every day and about
> >primera
>
> >owners :)
> >
> >Hunt
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: bounce-34682-72@list.supras.org.nz
> >[mailto:bounce-34682-72@list.supras.org.nz] On Behalf Of Cully
> >Paterson
>
> >Sent: Thursday, 24 June 2004 6:27 p.m.
> >To: Supra Club of NZ Mailing List
> >Subject: RE: [sconz] cc's rule - but turbos are better
> >
> >Apparently you're afraid of going around corners, so I guess I'll
> >never
>
> >be able to prove otherwise...
> >
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Hunt M [mailto:5uprah@supras.co.nz]
> > > Sent: Thursday, 24 June 2004 6:21 p.m.
> > > To: SCONZ.list Forward
> > > Subject: RE: [sconz] cc's rule - but turbos are better
> > >
> > > Perhaps the driver?
> > >
> > > Mwhaaahahaha *waits for flames* :)
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: bounce-34680-72@list.supras.org.nz
> > > [mailto:bounce-34680-72@list.supras.org.nz] On Behalf Of Cully
> > > Paterson
> > > Sent: Thursday, 24 June 2004 6:19 p.m.
> > > To: Supra Club of NZ Mailing List
> > > Subject: RE: [sconz] cc's rule - but turbos are better
> > >
> > >
> > > > All fine and dandy that Robbies car got 210rwhp @ 14psi with his

> > > > single turbo conversion BUT I got 211rwhp (159rwkw) with
> > > the stock TT
> > > > setup @ 12 psi boost with air filter and exhaust and bleed
> > > valve, ran
> > > > a 14.4 with that set up then a 14.2 @ 14psi boost same day - now

> > > > running 9psi and car feels and is a lot stronger than
> > > > before......
>
> > >
> > > You seem entirely convinced that 1/4 mile numbers actually mean
> > > something. In a road car it's just irrelevant! I dyno'd with
> > > 112kw MORE than Suze got, and she's now got a better 1/4 time than

> > > me. It may as well be random numbers.
> > >
> > > Cully
> > >
> > > ---
> > > Supra Club of New Zealand - http://www.supras.org.nz/ Website
> > > sponsored by Alltech Diesel & Turbocharger http://www.turbo.co.nz
> > >
> > >
> > > ---
> > > Supra Club of New Zealand - http://www.supras.org.nz/ Website
> > > sponsored by Alltech Diesel & Turbocharger http://www.turbo.co.nz
> > >
> >
> >---
> >Supra Club of New Zealand - http://www.supras.org.nz/ Website
> >sponsored by Alltech Diesel & Turbocharger
>http://www.turbo.co.nz
> >
> >
> >---
> >Supra Club of New Zealand - http://www.supras.org.nz/ Website
> >sponsored by Alltech Diesel & Turbocharger
>http://www.turbo.co.nz
>
>
>
>Watch movie trailers online with the Xtra Broadband Channel ! --- Supra

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>
>
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_________________________________________________________________
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2004-06-24 21:16:00

2004-06-24 21:18:00

No, the morale of the story is both listen and learn. Naturally you can
choose to think - "stuff it, I know better" or "what do they know."
Take one Camry, give it to someone with out a clue to hot it up, and the
result is the same. It might actually run fine for a couple of runs on
the drag strip....

- Marc

-----Original Message-----
From: bounce-34711-25@list.supras.org.nz
[mailto:bounce-34711-25@list.supras.org.nz] On Behalf Of Hunt M
Sent: Thursday, 24 June 2004 9:01 p.m.
To: Supra Club of NZ Mailing List
Subject: RE: [sconz] cc's rule - but turbos are better

Perhaps it's a way of contributing - sort of like "look this is what I
did and look at the result" - of course often not positive but
sometimes.

Yes my car is my daily driver - yes I want it to be a fast straight
liner but like you say it is very difficult to have both in the same
package - hence not wanting to turn boost over 9psi - for now.

I have issues with my car running properly - yes - but hey how can you
find out what the limit of something is without going over it -
remembering that generally what I have done no-one else has so there is
no help or solid advice available - when there is I thank you all - even
though I often will try my own theories first :)

Suze - yes your engine blew - bugger - perhaps you should get a 1G - oh
wait no no cos at least now when I beat you, you can say "oh it must be
because he has a 1G" :)

John - yes you do seem to be going through a lot of gearboxes - not
really a lot you could do about it - go manual? Sure you could but
perhaps you'd end up going through the same amount of clutches?

Moral of the story is thus - you're grandparents Toyota Camry - is a lot
more reliable than your supra - you're friends Corolla never breaks down
- aren't exactly performance cars - how often do you see a F1 car or a
V8 super car go season after season without having anything replaced?
Not often....

Hunt

-----Original Message-----
From: bounce-34698-72@list.supras.org.nz
[mailto:bounce-34698-72@list.supras.org.nz] On Behalf Of Marc Archbold
Sent: Thursday, 24 June 2004 8:42 p.m.
To: Supra Club of NZ Mailing List
Subject: RE: [sconz] cc's rule - but turbos are better

Great to hear your workshop is doing well. What I cant figure is why
the reluctancy in detailing what you have actually done to acheive such
great results with your car; why? This list group is for contributors,
not vaunting.

Are your cars great daily drivers or just fast straight liners? The way
I understand it is that it's difficult to have both in a single package.

Hunt, great that you have a 14 Second car, but sounds like you have
quite some issues with it running properly. You're not listening. Suze,
you've stuffed an engine, cant say the list didn't warn you. John, How
many transmissions will it take?

Cordially,
Marc

-----Original Message-----
From: bounce-34686-25@list.supras.org.nz
[mailto:bounce-34686-25@list.supras.org.nz] On Behalf Of john shannon
Sent: Thursday, 24 June 2004 8:14 p.m.
To: Supra Club of NZ Mailing List
Subject: RE: [sconz] cc's rule - but turbos are better

Hey Hunt dont you think its funny that the 3 fastest supras are from my
work shop funny that hey.

>From: "Hunt M" <5uprah@supras.co.nz>
>Reply-To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List" <sconz@list.supras.org.nz>
>To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List" <sconz@list.supras.org.nz>
>Subject: RE: [sconz] cc's rule - but turbos are better
>Date: Thu, 24 Jun 2004 18:31:20 +1200
>
>Not at all - when racing I push my car to the limit - and then some
(anyone
>who's seen me race can vouch for this) - drag racing you only loose
traction
>and spin the wheels, and your going straight ahead so no biggie - track

>racing I would push my car to the limit as well but if I were to go
over
>that limit I could spin out and cause damage to my car - I just don't
like
>the thought of smashing up something that I have spent literally
hundreds of
>hours on to get to the level that it is at.
>Don't mention taking my car out on the road every day and about primera

>owners :)
>
>Hunt
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: bounce-34682-72@list.supras.org.nz
>[mailto:bounce-34682-72@list.supras.org.nz] On Behalf Of Cully Paterson

>Sent: Thursday, 24 June 2004 6:27 p.m.
>To: Supra Club of NZ Mailing List
>Subject: RE: [sconz] cc's rule - but turbos are better
>
>Apparently you're afraid of going around corners, so I guess I'll never

>be able to prove otherwise...
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Hunt M [mailto:5uprah@supras.co.nz]
> > Sent: Thursday, 24 June 2004 6:21 p.m.
> > To: SCONZ.list Forward
> > Subject: RE: [sconz] cc's rule - but turbos are better
> >
> > Perhaps the driver?
> >
> > Mwhaaahahaha *waits for flames* :)
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: bounce-34680-72@list.supras.org.nz
> > [mailto:bounce-34680-72@list.supras.org.nz] On Behalf Of
> > Cully Paterson
> > Sent: Thursday, 24 June 2004 6:19 p.m.
> > To: Supra Club of NZ Mailing List
> > Subject: RE: [sconz] cc's rule - but turbos are better
> >
> >
> > > All fine and dandy that Robbies car got 210rwhp @ 14psi with his
> > > single turbo conversion BUT I got 211rwhp (159rwkw) with
> > the stock TT
> > > setup @ 12 psi boost with air filter and exhaust and bleed
> > valve, ran
> > > a 14.4 with that set up then a 14.2 @ 14psi boost same day - now
> > > running 9psi and car feels and is a lot stronger than before......

> >
> > You seem entirely convinced that 1/4 mile numbers actually
> > mean something. In a road car it's just irrelevant! I
> > dyno'd with 112kw MORE than Suze got, and she's now got a
> > better 1/4 time than me. It may as well be random numbers.
> >
> > Cully
> >
> > ---
> > Supra Club of New Zealand - http://www.supras.org.nz/ Website
> > sponsored by Alltech Diesel & Turbocharger http://www.turbo.co.nz
> >
> >
> > ---
> > Supra Club of New Zealand - http://www.supras.org.nz/ Website
> > sponsored by Alltech Diesel & Turbocharger http://www.turbo.co.nz
> >
>
>---
>Supra Club of New Zealand - http://www.supras.org.nz/
>Website sponsored by Alltech Diesel & Turbocharger
http://www.turbo.co.nz
>
>
>---
>Supra Club of New Zealand - http://www.supras.org.nz/
>Website sponsored by Alltech Diesel & Turbocharger
http://www.turbo.co.nz

Watch movie trailers online with the Xtra Broadband Channel ! ---
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Website sponsored by Alltech Diesel & Turbocharger
http://www.turbo.co.nz

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---
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Website sponsored by Alltech Diesel & Turbocharger
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2004-06-24 21:19:00

what has detonation on a 1jz got to do with my 7m blowing a head gasket? lol

>From: Marc Archbold <marc.a@paradise.net.nz>
>Reply-To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List" <sconz@list.supras.org.nz>
>To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List" <sconz@list.supras.org.nz>
>Subject: RE: [sconz] cc's rule - but turbos are better
>Date: Thu, 24 Jun 2004 21:15:34 +1200
>
>
>Not the FCD entirely, but Im sure that contributed.
>
>You blew it because you didn't and still don't understand. Nor will you
>take advice.
>Your website explains it thoroughly and yes a JZ engine will fail when
>you don't understand what you're doing. The major detonation shown on
>your website is a conclusive example of this.
>
>
>Cordially,
>Marc
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: bounce-34705-25@list.supras.org.nz
>[mailto:bounce-34705-25@list.supras.org.nz] On Behalf Of Suze W
>Sent: Thursday, 24 June 2004 8:52 p.m.
>To: Supra Club of NZ Mailing List
>Subject: RE: [sconz] cc's rule - but turbos are better
>
>
> >Suze, you've stuffed an engine, cant say the list didn't warn you.
>
>oh and why do you think i've done this?
>ohhhh that's right the fcd thats soooo bad it will blow up my car
>straight
>away
>i do believe thats the only thing that the supra club in general believe
>was
>the wrong way to do things
>if you would like me to share i will happily do so,
>and if you would like to read previous posts on what i have said about
>my
>engine you will know why i blew it... oh and you knew this was going to
>happen, would you like to enlighten me how you knew? oh and what it was
>exactly that blew it?
>
>mods to my almighty and powerful 7m
>boost 10psi
>3 1/2 in exhaust
>filter
>550x300x75 intercooler
>exhaust ported head to match the manifold
>to4e ct26
>hks type k fuel cut defender (designed for the 7mgte)
>
>my car is my daily driver and drag car :D
>
>there's my big list of mods ;)
>
>
>
> >From: Marc Archbold <marc.a@paradise.net.nz>
> >Reply-To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List" <sconz@list.supras.org.nz>
> >To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List" <sconz@list.supras.org.nz>
> >Subject: RE: [sconz] cc's rule - but turbos are better
> >Date: Thu, 24 Jun 2004 20:41:45 +1200
> >
> >
> >Great to hear your workshop is doing well. What I cant figure is why
> >the reluctancy in detailing what you have actually done to acheive such
>
> >great results with your car; why? This list group is for contributors,
>
> >not vaunting.
> >
> >Are your cars great daily drivers or just fast straight liners? The
> >way I understand it is that it's difficult to have both in a single
> >package.
> >
> >
> >Hunt, great that you have a 14 Second car, but sounds like you have
> >quite some issues with it running properly. You're not listening.
> >Suze, you've stuffed an engine, cant say the list didn't warn you.
> >John, How many transmissions will it take?
> >
> >
> >Cordially,
> >Marc
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: bounce-34686-25@list.supras.org.nz
> >[mailto:bounce-34686-25@list.supras.org.nz] On Behalf Of john shannon
> >Sent: Thursday, 24 June 2004 8:14 p.m.
> >To: Supra Club of NZ Mailing List
> >Subject: RE: [sconz] cc's rule - but turbos are better
> >
> >
> >Hey Hunt dont you think its funny that the 3 fastest supras are from my
>
> >work shop funny that hey.
> >
> >
> > >From: "Hunt M" <5uprah@supras.co.nz>
> > >Reply-To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List" <sconz@list.supras.org.nz>
> > >To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List" <sconz@list.supras.org.nz>
> > >Subject: RE: [sconz] cc's rule - but turbos are better
> > >Date: Thu, 24 Jun 2004 18:31:20 +1200
> > >
> > >Not at all - when racing I push my car to the limit - and then some
> >(anyone
> > >who's seen me race can vouch for this) - drag racing you only loose
> >traction
> > >and spin the wheels, and your going straight ahead so no biggie -
> > >track
> >
> > >racing I would push my car to the limit as well but if I were to go
> >over
> > >that limit I could spin out and cause damage to my car - I just don't
> >like
> > >the thought of smashing up something that I have spent literally
> >hundreds of
> > >hours on to get to the level that it is at.
> > >Don't mention taking my car out on the road every day and about
> > >primera
> >
> > >owners :)
> > >
> > >Hunt
> > >
> > >-----Original Message-----
> > >From: bounce-34682-72@list.supras.org.nz
> > >[mailto:bounce-34682-72@list.supras.org.nz] On Behalf Of Cully
> > >Paterson
> >
> > >Sent: Thursday, 24 June 2004 6:27 p.m.
> > >To: Supra Club of NZ Mailing List
> > >Subject: RE: [sconz] cc's rule - but turbos are better
> > >
> > >Apparently you're afraid of going around corners, so I guess I'll
> > >never
> >
> > >be able to prove otherwise...
> > >
> > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: Hunt M [mailto:5uprah@supras.co.nz]
> > > > Sent: Thursday, 24 June 2004 6:21 p.m.
> > > > To: SCONZ.list Forward
> > > > Subject: RE: [sconz] cc's rule - but turbos are better
> > > >
> > > > Perhaps the driver?
> > > >
> > > > Mwhaaahahaha *waits for flames* :)
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: bounce-34680-72@list.supras.org.nz
> > > > [mailto:bounce-34680-72@list.supras.org.nz] On Behalf Of Cully
> > > > Paterson
> > > > Sent: Thursday, 24 June 2004 6:19 p.m.
> > > > To: Supra Club of NZ Mailing List
> > > > Subject: RE: [sconz] cc's rule - but turbos are better
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > All fine and dandy that Robbies car got 210rwhp @ 14psi with his
>
> > > > > single turbo conversion BUT I got 211rwhp (159rwkw) with
> > > > the stock TT
> > > > > setup @ 12 psi boost with air filter and exhaust and bleed
> > > > valve, ran
> > > > > a 14.4 with that set up then a 14.2 @ 14psi boost same day - now
>
> > > > > running 9psi and car feels and is a lot stronger than
> > > > > before......
> >
> > > >
> > > > You seem entirely convinced that 1/4 mile numbers actually mean
> > > > something. In a road car it's just irrelevant! I dyno'd with
> > > > 112kw MORE than Suze got, and she's now got a better 1/4 time than
>
> > > > me. It may as well be random numbers.
> > > >
> > > > Cully
> > > >
> > > > ---
> > > > Supra Club of New Zealand - http://www.supras.org.nz/ Website
> > > > sponsored by Alltech Diesel & Turbocharger http://www.turbo.co.nz
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > ---
> > > > Supra Club of New Zealand - http://www.supras.org.nz/ Website
> > > > sponsored by Alltech Diesel & Turbocharger http://www.turbo.co.nz
> > > >
> > >
> > >---
> > >Supra Club of New Zealand - http://www.supras.org.nz/ Website
> > >sponsored by Alltech Diesel & Turbocharger
> >http://www.turbo.co.nz
> > >
> > >
> > >---
> > >Supra Club of New Zealand - http://www.supras.org.nz/ Website
> > >sponsored by Alltech Diesel & Turbocharger
> >http://www.turbo.co.nz
> >
> >
> >
> >Watch movie trailers online with the Xtra Broadband Channel ! --- Supra
>
> >Club of New Zealand - http://www.supras.org.nz/ Website sponsored by
> >Alltech Diesel & Turbocharger http://www.turbo.co.nz
> >
> >
> >---
> >Supra Club of New Zealand - http://www.supras.org.nz/
> >Website sponsored by Alltech Diesel & Turbocharger
> >http://www.turbo.co.nz
>
>_________________________________________________________________
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>http://xtra.co.nz/jetstream
>
>
>---
>Supra Club of New Zealand - http://www.supras.org.nz/
>Website sponsored by Alltech Diesel & Turbocharger
>http://www.turbo.co.nz
>
>
>---
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2004-06-24 21:19:00

2004-06-24 21:19:00

2004-06-24 21:21:00

This is what I am reffering to:

Never say "1JZ's are Bulletproof"...
http://www.supra.co.nz/john.htm

-----Original Message-----
From: bounce-34721-25@list.supras.org.nz
[mailto:bounce-34721-25@list.supras.org.nz] On Behalf Of Suze W
Sent: Thursday, 24 June 2004 9:19 p.m.
To: Supra Club of NZ Mailing List
Subject: RE: [sconz] cc's rule - but turbos are better

what has detonation on a 1jz got to do with my 7m blowing a head gasket?
lol

>From: Marc Archbold <marc.a@paradise.net.nz>
>Reply-To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List" <sconz@list.supras.org.nz>
>To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List" <sconz@list.supras.org.nz>
>Subject: RE: [sconz] cc's rule - but turbos are better
>Date: Thu, 24 Jun 2004 21:15:34 +1200
>
>
>Not the FCD entirely, but Im sure that contributed.
>
>You blew it because you didn't and still don't understand. Nor will
>you take advice. Your website explains it thoroughly and yes a JZ
>engine will fail when you don't understand what you're doing. The
>major detonation shown on your website is a conclusive example of this.
>
>
>Cordially,
>Marc
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: bounce-34705-25@list.supras.org.nz
>[mailto:bounce-34705-25@list.supras.org.nz] On Behalf Of Suze W
>Sent: Thursday, 24 June 2004 8:52 p.m.
>To: Supra Club of NZ Mailing List
>Subject: RE: [sconz] cc's rule - but turbos are better
>
>
> >Suze, you've stuffed an engine, cant say the list didn't warn you.
>
>oh and why do you think i've done this?
>ohhhh that's right the fcd thats soooo bad it will blow up my car
>straight away
>i do believe thats the only thing that the supra club in general
believe
>was
>the wrong way to do things
>if you would like me to share i will happily do so,
>and if you would like to read previous posts on what i have said about
>my
>engine you will know why i blew it... oh and you knew this was going to
>happen, would you like to enlighten me how you knew? oh and what it was
>exactly that blew it?
>
>mods to my almighty and powerful 7m
>boost 10psi
>3 1/2 in exhaust
>filter
>550x300x75 intercooler
>exhaust ported head to match the manifold
>to4e ct26
>hks type k fuel cut defender (designed for the 7mgte)
>
>my car is my daily driver and drag car :D
>
>there's my big list of mods ;)
>
>
>
> >From: Marc Archbold <marc.a@paradise.net.nz>
> >Reply-To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List" <sconz@list.supras.org.nz>
> >To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List" <sconz@list.supras.org.nz>
> >Subject: RE: [sconz] cc's rule - but turbos are better
> >Date: Thu, 24 Jun 2004 20:41:45 +1200
> >
> >
> >Great to hear your workshop is doing well. What I cant figure is why

> >the reluctancy in detailing what you have actually done to acheive
> >such
>
> >great results with your car; why? This list group is for
> >contributors,
>
> >not vaunting.
> >
> >Are your cars great daily drivers or just fast straight liners? The
> >way I understand it is that it's difficult to have both in a single
> >package.
> >
> >
> >Hunt, great that you have a 14 Second car, but sounds like you have
> >quite some issues with it running properly. You're not listening.
> >Suze, you've stuffed an engine, cant say the list didn't warn you.
> >John, How many transmissions will it take?
> >
> >
> >Cordially,
> >Marc
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: bounce-34686-25@list.supras.org.nz
> >[mailto:bounce-34686-25@list.supras.org.nz] On Behalf Of john shannon
> >Sent: Thursday, 24 June 2004 8:14 p.m.
> >To: Supra Club of NZ Mailing List
> >Subject: RE: [sconz] cc's rule - but turbos are better
> >
> >
> >Hey Hunt dont you think its funny that the 3 fastest supras are from
> >my
>
> >work shop funny that hey.
> >
> >
> > >From: "Hunt M" <5uprah@supras.co.nz>
> > >Reply-To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List"
> > ><sconz@list.supras.org.nz>
> > >To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List" <sconz@list.supras.org.nz>
> > >Subject: RE: [sconz] cc's rule - but turbos are better
> > >Date: Thu, 24 Jun 2004 18:31:20 +1200
> > >
> > >Not at all - when racing I push my car to the limit - and then some
> >(anyone
> > >who's seen me race can vouch for this) - drag racing you only loose
> >traction
> > >and spin the wheels, and your going straight ahead so no biggie -
> > >track
> >
> > >racing I would push my car to the limit as well but if I were to go
> >over
> > >that limit I could spin out and cause damage to my car - I just
> > >don't
> >like
> > >the thought of smashing up something that I have spent literally
> >hundreds of
> > >hours on to get to the level that it is at.
> > >Don't mention taking my car out on the road every day and about
> > >primera
> >
> > >owners :)
> > >
> > >Hunt
> > >
> > >-----Original Message-----
> > >From: bounce-34682-72@list.supras.org.nz
> > >[mailto:bounce-34682-72@list.supras.org.nz] On Behalf Of Cully
> > >Paterson
> >
> > >Sent: Thursday, 24 June 2004 6:27 p.m.
> > >To: Supra Club of NZ Mailing List
> > >Subject: RE: [sconz] cc's rule - but turbos are better
> > >
> > >Apparently you're afraid of going around corners, so I guess I'll
> > >never
> >
> > >be able to prove otherwise...
> > >
> > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: Hunt M [mailto:5uprah@supras.co.nz]
> > > > Sent: Thursday, 24 June 2004 6:21 p.m.
> > > > To: SCONZ.list Forward
> > > > Subject: RE: [sconz] cc's rule - but turbos are better
> > > >
> > > > Perhaps the driver?
> > > >
> > > > Mwhaaahahaha *waits for flames* :)
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: bounce-34680-72@list.supras.org.nz
> > > > [mailto:bounce-34680-72@list.supras.org.nz] On Behalf Of Cully
> > > > Paterson
> > > > Sent: Thursday, 24 June 2004 6:19 p.m.
> > > > To: Supra Club of NZ Mailing List
> > > > Subject: RE: [sconz] cc's rule - but turbos are better
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > All fine and dandy that Robbies car got 210rwhp @ 14psi with
> > > > > his
>
> > > > > single turbo conversion BUT I got 211rwhp (159rwkw) with
> > > > the stock TT
> > > > > setup @ 12 psi boost with air filter and exhaust and bleed
> > > > valve, ran
> > > > > a 14.4 with that set up then a 14.2 @ 14psi boost same day -
> > > > > now
>
> > > > > running 9psi and car feels and is a lot stronger than
> > > > > before......
> >
> > > >
> > > > You seem entirely convinced that 1/4 mile numbers actually mean
> > > > something. In a road car it's just irrelevant! I dyno'd with
> > > > 112kw MORE than Suze got, and she's now got a better 1/4 time
> > > > than
>
> > > > me. It may as well be random numbers.
> > > >
> > > > Cully
> > > >
> > > > ---
> > > > Supra Club of New Zealand - http://www.supras.org.nz/ Website
> > > > sponsored by Alltech Diesel & Turbocharger
> > > > http://www.turbo.co.nz
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > ---
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> > > > sponsored by Alltech Diesel & Turbocharger
> > > > http://www.turbo.co.nz
> > > >
> > >
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> > >sponsored by Alltech Diesel & Turbocharger
> >http://www.turbo.co.nz
> > >
> > >
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> > >sponsored by Alltech Diesel & Turbocharger
> >http://www.turbo.co.nz
> >
> >
> >
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>
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>
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2004-06-24 21:22:00

2004-06-24 21:24:00

2004-06-24 21:25:00

good on ya hunt i agree completely :)

>From: "Hunt M" <5uprah@supras.co.nz>
>Reply-To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List" <sconz@list.supras.org.nz>
>To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List" <sconz@list.supras.org.nz>
>Subject: RE: [sconz] cc's rule - but turbos are better
>Date: Thu, 24 Jun 2004 21:23:50 +1200
>
>OK I am in NO WAY defending Suze and her decisions - don't get me wrong -
>all I am saying is in regards to my issues is that so many things that I
>have done - yes they have gone wrong - and perhaps I should have listened
>to
>SCONZ before doing them BUT there have been many things that have gone
>right
>as well and I've very proud of that.
>There is not always one way to do things correctly....
>
>Hunt
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: bounce-34722-72@list.supras.org.nz
>[mailto:bounce-34722-72@list.supras.org.nz] On Behalf Of Marc Archbold
>Sent: Thursday, 24 June 2004 9:19 p.m.
>To: Supra Club of NZ Mailing List
>Subject: RE: [sconz] cc's rule - but turbos are better
>
>
>No, the morale of the story is both listen and learn. Naturally you can
>choose to think - "stuff it, I know better" or "what do they know."
>Take one Camry, give it to someone with out a clue to hot it up, and the
>result is the same. It might actually run fine for a couple of runs on
>the drag strip....
>
>
>- Marc
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: bounce-34711-25@list.supras.org.nz
>[mailto:bounce-34711-25@list.supras.org.nz] On Behalf Of Hunt M
>Sent: Thursday, 24 June 2004 9:01 p.m.
>To: Supra Club of NZ Mailing List
>Subject: RE: [sconz] cc's rule - but turbos are better
>
>
>Perhaps it's a way of contributing - sort of like "look this is what I
>did and look at the result" - of course often not positive but
>sometimes.
>
>Yes my car is my daily driver - yes I want it to be a fast straight
>liner but like you say it is very difficult to have both in the same
>package - hence not wanting to turn boost over 9psi - for now.
>
>I have issues with my car running properly - yes - but hey how can you
>find out what the limit of something is without going over it -
>remembering that generally what I have done no-one else has so there is
>no help or solid advice available - when there is I thank you all - even
>though I often will try my own theories first :)
>
>Suze - yes your engine blew - bugger - perhaps you should get a 1G - oh
>wait no no cos at least now when I beat you, you can say "oh it must be
>because he has a 1G" :)
>
>John - yes you do seem to be going through a lot of gearboxes - not
>really a lot you could do about it - go manual? Sure you could but
>perhaps you'd end up going through the same amount of clutches?
>
>Moral of the story is thus - you're grandparents Toyota Camry - is a lot
>more reliable than your supra - you're friends Corolla never breaks down
>- aren't exactly performance cars - how often do you see a F1 car or a
>V8 super car go season after season without having anything replaced?
>Not often....
>
>Hunt
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: bounce-34698-72@list.supras.org.nz
>[mailto:bounce-34698-72@list.supras.org.nz] On Behalf Of Marc Archbold
>Sent: Thursday, 24 June 2004 8:42 p.m.
>To: Supra Club of NZ Mailing List
>Subject: RE: [sconz] cc's rule - but turbos are better
>
>
>Great to hear your workshop is doing well. What I cant figure is why
>the reluctancy in detailing what you have actually done to acheive such
>great results with your car; why? This list group is for contributors,
>not vaunting.
>
>Are your cars great daily drivers or just fast straight liners? The way
>I understand it is that it's difficult to have both in a single package.
>
>
>Hunt, great that you have a 14 Second car, but sounds like you have
>quite some issues with it running properly. You're not listening. Suze,
>you've stuffed an engine, cant say the list didn't warn you. John, How
>many transmissions will it take?
>
>
>Cordially,
>Marc
>
>
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: bounce-34686-25@list.supras.org.nz
>[mailto:bounce-34686-25@list.supras.org.nz] On Behalf Of john shannon
>Sent: Thursday, 24 June 2004 8:14 p.m.
>To: Supra Club of NZ Mailing List
>Subject: RE: [sconz] cc's rule - but turbos are better
>
>
>Hey Hunt dont you think its funny that the 3 fastest supras are from my
>work shop funny that hey.
>
>
> >From: "Hunt M" <5uprah@supras.co.nz>
> >Reply-To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List" <sconz@list.supras.org.nz>
> >To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List" <sconz@list.supras.org.nz>
> >Subject: RE: [sconz] cc's rule - but turbos are better
> >Date: Thu, 24 Jun 2004 18:31:20 +1200
> >
> >Not at all - when racing I push my car to the limit - and then some
>(anyone
> >who's seen me race can vouch for this) - drag racing you only loose
>traction
> >and spin the wheels, and your going straight ahead so no biggie - track
>
> >racing I would push my car to the limit as well but if I were to go
>over
> >that limit I could spin out and cause damage to my car - I just don't
>like
> >the thought of smashing up something that I have spent literally
>hundreds of
> >hours on to get to the level that it is at.
> >Don't mention taking my car out on the road every day and about primera
>
> >owners :)
> >
> >Hunt
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: bounce-34682-72@list.supras.org.nz
> >[mailto:bounce-34682-72@list.supras.org.nz] On Behalf Of Cully Paterson
>
> >Sent: Thursday, 24 June 2004 6:27 p.m.
> >To: Supra Club of NZ Mailing List
> >Subject: RE: [sconz] cc's rule - but turbos are better
> >
> >Apparently you're afraid of going around corners, so I guess I'll never
>
> >be able to prove otherwise...
> >
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Hunt M [mailto:5uprah@supras.co.nz]
> > > Sent: Thursday, 24 June 2004 6:21 p.m.
> > > To: SCONZ.list Forward
> > > Subject: RE: [sconz] cc's rule - but turbos are better
> > >
> > > Perhaps the driver?
> > >
> > > Mwhaaahahaha *waits for flames* :)
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: bounce-34680-72@list.supras.org.nz
> > > [mailto:bounce-34680-72@list.supras.org.nz] On Behalf Of
> > > Cully Paterson
> > > Sent: Thursday, 24 June 2004 6:19 p.m.
> > > To: Supra Club of NZ Mailing List
> > > Subject: RE: [sconz] cc's rule - but turbos are better
> > >
> > >
> > > > All fine and dandy that Robbies car got 210rwhp @ 14psi with his
> > > > single turbo conversion BUT I got 211rwhp (159rwkw) with
> > > the stock TT
> > > > setup @ 12 psi boost with air filter and exhaust and bleed
> > > valve, ran
> > > > a 14.4 with that set up then a 14.2 @ 14psi boost same day - now
> > > > running 9psi and car feels and is a lot stronger than before......
>
> > >
> > > You seem entirely convinced that 1/4 mile numbers actually
> > > mean something. In a road car it's just irrelevant! I
> > > dyno'd with 112kw MORE than Suze got, and she's now got a
> > > better 1/4 time than me. It may as well be random numbers.
> > >
> > > Cully
> > >
> > > ---
> > > Supra Club of New Zealand - http://www.supras.org.nz/ Website
> > > sponsored by Alltech Diesel & Turbocharger http://www.turbo.co.nz
> > >
> > >
> > > ---
> > > Supra Club of New Zealand - http://www.supras.org.nz/ Website
> > > sponsored by Alltech Diesel & Turbocharger http://www.turbo.co.nz
> > >
> >
> >---
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> >Website sponsored by Alltech Diesel & Turbocharger
>http://www.turbo.co.nz
> >
> >
> >---
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> >Website sponsored by Alltech Diesel & Turbocharger
>http://www.turbo.co.nz
>
>
>
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>
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2004-06-24 21:25:00

>From: Marc Archbold <marc.a@paradise.net.nz>

2004-06-24 21:26:00

that is true that is why you never give me your 1jz to drive

>Reply-To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List" <sconz@list.supras.org.nz>

>To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List" <sconz@list.supras.org.nz>

>Subject: RE: [sconz] cc's rule - but turbos are better

>Date: Thu, 24 Jun 2004 21:22:10 +1200

>This is what I am reffering to:

>Never say "1JZ's are Bulletproof"...

>http://www.supra.co.nz/john.htm

>From: bounce-34721-25@list.supras.org.nz

>[mailto:bounce-34721-25@list.supras.org.nz] On Behalf Of Suze W

>Sent: Thursday, 24 June 2004 9:19 p.m.

>Subject: RE: [sconz] cc's rule - but turbos are better

>what has detonation on a 1jz got to do with my 7m blowing a head gasket?

>lol

> >From: Marc Archbold <marc.a@paradise.net.nz>

> >Reply-To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List" <sconz@list.supras.org.nz>

> >To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List" <sconz@list.supras.org.nz>

> >Subject: RE: [sconz] cc's rule - but turbos are better

> >Date: Thu, 24 Jun 2004 21:15:34 +1200

> >Not the FCD entirely, but Im sure that contributed.

> >You blew it because you didn't and still don't understand. Nor will

> >you take advice. Your website explains it thoroughly and yes a JZ

> >engine will fail when you don't understand what you're doing. The

> >major detonation shown on your website is a conclusive example of this.

> >From: bounce-34705-25@list.supras.org.nz

> >[mailto:bounce-34705-25@list.supras.org.nz] On Behalf Of Suze W

> >Sent: Thursday, 24 June 2004 8:52 p.m.

> >Subject: RE: [sconz] cc's rule - but turbos are better

> > >Suze, you've stuffed an engine, cant say the list didn't warn you.

> >oh and why do you think i've done this?

> >ohhhh that's right the fcd thats soooo bad it will blow up my car

> >straight away

> >i do believe thats the only thing that the supra club in general

>believe

> >was

> >the wrong way to do things

> >if you would like me to share i will happily do so,

> >and if you would like to read previous posts on what i have said about

> >my

> >engine you will know why i blew it... oh and you knew this was going to

> >happen, would you like to enlighten me how you knew? oh and what it was

> >exactly that blew it?

> >mods to my almighty and powerful 7m

> >boost 10psi

> >3 1/2 in exhaust

> >filter

> >550x300x75 intercooler

> >exhaust ported head to match the manifold

> >to4e ct26

> >hks type k fuel cut defender (designed for the 7mgte)

> >my car is my daily driver and drag car :D

> >there's my big list of mods ;)

> > >From: Marc Archbold <marc.a@paradise.net.nz>

> > >Reply-To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List" <sconz@list.supras.org.nz>

> > >To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List" <sconz@list.supras.org.nz>

> > >Subject: RE: [sconz] cc's rule - but turbos are better

> > >Date: Thu, 24 Jun 2004 20:41:45 +1200

> > >Great to hear your workshop is doing well. What I cant figure is why

> > >the reluctancy in detailing what you have actually done to acheive

> > >such

> > >great results with your car; why? This list group is for

> > >Are your cars great daily drivers or just fast straight liners? The

> > >way I understand it is that it's difficult to have both in a single

> > >package.

> > >Hunt, great that you have a 14 Second car, but sounds like you have

> > >quite some issues with it running properly. You're not listening.

> > >Suze, you've stuffed an engine, cant say the list didn't warn you.

> > >John, How many transmissions will it take?

> > >-----Original Message-----

> > >From: bounce-34686-25@list.supras.org.nz

> > >[mailto:bounce-34686-25@list.supras.org.nz] On Behalf Of john shannon

> > >Sent: Thursday, 24 June 2004 8:14 p.m.

> > >To: Supra Club of NZ Mailing List

> > >Subject: RE: [sconz] cc's rule - but turbos are better

> > >Hey Hunt dont you think its funny that the 3 fastest supras are from

> > >my

> > >work shop funny that hey.

> > > >From: "Hunt M" <5uprah@supras.co.nz>

> > > >Reply-To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List"

> > > ><sconz@list.supras.org.nz>

> > > >To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List" <sconz@list.supras.org.nz>

> > > >Subject: RE: [sconz] cc's rule - but turbos are better

> > > >Date: Thu, 24 Jun 2004 18:31:20 +1200

> > > >Not at all - when racing I push my car to the limit - and then some

> > >(anyone

> > > >who's seen me race can vouch for this) - drag racing you only loose

> > >traction

> > > >and spin the wheels, and your going straight ahead so no biggie -

> > > >track

> > > >racing I would push my car to the limit as well but if I were to go

> > >over

> > > >that limit I could spin out and cause damage to my car - I just

> > > >don't

> > >like

> > > >the thought of smashing up something that I have spent literally

> > >hundreds of

> > > >hours on to get to the level that it is at.

> > > >Don't mention taking my car out on the road every day and about

> > > >-----Original Message-----

> > > >From: bounce-34682-72@list.supras.org.nz

> > > >[mailto:bounce-34682-72@list.supras.org.nz] On Behalf Of Cully

> > > >Paterson

> > > >Sent: Thursday, 24 June 2004 6:27 p.m.

> > > >To: Supra Club of NZ Mailing List

> > > >Subject: RE: [sconz] cc's rule - but turbos are better

> > > >Apparently you're afraid of going around corners, so I guess I'll

> > > >never

> > > >be able to prove otherwise...

> > > > > -----Original Message-----

> > > > > From: Hunt M [mailto:5uprah@supras.co.nz]

> > > > > Sent: Thursday, 24 June 2004 6:21 p.m.

> > > > > To: SCONZ.list Forward

> > > > > Subject: RE: [sconz] cc's rule - but turbos are better

> > > > > Perhaps the driver?

> > > > > Mwhaaahahaha *waits for flames* :)

> > > > > -----Original Message-----

> > > > > From: bounce-34680-72@list.supras.org.nz

> > > > > [mailto:bounce-34680-72@list.supras.org.nz] On Behalf Of Cully

> > > > > Paterson

> > > > > Sent: Thursday, 24 June 2004 6:19 p.m.

> > > > > To: Supra Club of NZ Mailing List

> > > > > Subject: RE: [sconz] cc's rule - but turbos are better

> > > > > > All fine and dandy that Robbies car got 210rwhp @ 14psi with

> > > > > > his

> > > > > > single turbo conversion BUT I got 211rwhp (159rwkw) with

> > > > > the stock TT

> > > > > > setup @ 12 psi boost with air filter and exhaust and bleed

> > > > > valve, ran

> > > > > > a 14.4 with that set up then a 14.2 @ 14psi boost same day -

> > > > > > now

> > > > > > running 9psi and car feels and is a lot stronger than

> > > > > > before......

> > > > > You seem entirely convinced that 1/4 mile numbers actually mean

> > > > > something. In a road car it's just irrelevant! I dyno'd with

> > > > > 112kw MORE than Suze got, and she's now got a better 1/4 time

> > > > > than

> > > > > me. It may as well be random numbers.

> > > > > Supra Club of New Zealand - http://www.supras.org.nz/ Website

> > > > > sponsored by Alltech Diesel & Turbocharger

> > > > > http://www.turbo.co.nz

> > > > > Supra Club of New Zealand - http://www.supras.org.nz/ Website

> > > > > ---

> > > > > sponsored by Alltech Diesel & Turbocharger

> > > > > http://www.turbo.co.nz

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> > > >---

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> > >http://www.turbo.co.nz

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From: bounce-34729-72@list.supras.org.nz
[mailto:bounce-34729-72@list.supras.org.nz] On Behalf Of john shannon
Sent: Thursday, 24 June 2004 9:26 p.m.
To: Supra Club of NZ Mailing List
Subject: RE: [sconz] cc's rule - but turbos are better

that is true that is why you never give me your 1jz to drive

>From: Marc Archbold <marc.a@paradise.net.nz>

>Reply-To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List" <sconz@list.supras.org.nz>

>To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List" <sconz@list.supras.org.nz>

>Subject: RE: [sconz] cc's rule - but turbos are better

>Date: Thu, 24 Jun 2004 21:22:10 +1200

>

>

>This is what I am reffering to:

>

>Never say "1JZ's are Bulletproof"...

>http://www.supra.co.nz/john.htm

>

>

>

>

>

>-----Original Message-----

>From: bounce-34721-25@list.supras.org.nz

>[mailto:bounce-34721-25@list.supras.org.nz] On Behalf Of Suze W

>Sent: Thursday, 24 June 2004 9:19 p.m.

>To: Supra Club of NZ Mailing List

>Subject: RE: [sconz] cc's rule - but turbos are better

>

>

>what has detonation on a 1jz got to do with my 7m blowing a head gasket?

>lol

>

>

> >From: Marc Archbold <marc.a@paradise.net.nz>

> >Reply-To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List" <sconz@list.supras.org.nz>

> >To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List" <sconz@list.supras.org.nz>

> >Subject: RE: [sconz] cc's rule - but turbos are better

> >Date: Thu, 24 Jun 2004 21:15:34 +1200

> >

> >

> >Not the FCD entirely, but Im sure that contributed.

> >

> >You blew it because you didn't and still don't understand. Nor will

> >you take advice. Your website explains it thoroughly and yes a JZ

> >engine will fail when you don't understand what you're doing. The

> >major detonation shown on your website is a conclusive example of this.

> >

> >

> >Cordially,

> >Marc

> >

> >

> >-----Original Message-----

> >From: bounce-34705-25@list.supras.org.nz

> >[mailto:bounce-34705-25@list.supras.org.nz] On Behalf Of Suze W

> >Sent: Thursday, 24 June 2004 8:52 p.m.

> >To: Supra Club of NZ Mailing List

> >Subject: RE: [sconz] cc's rule - but turbos are better

> >

> >

> > >Suze, you've stuffed an engine, cant say the list didn't warn you.

> >

> >oh and why do you think i've done this?

> >ohhhh that's right the fcd thats soooo bad it will blow up my car

> >straight away

> >i do believe thats the only thing that the supra club in general

>believe

> >was

> >the wrong way to do things

> >if you would like me to share i will happily do so,

> >and if you would like to read previous posts on what i have said about

> >my

> >engine you will know why i blew it... oh and you knew this was going to

> >happen, would you like to enlighten me how you knew? oh and what it was

> >exactly that blew it?

> >

> >mods to my almighty and powerful 7m

> >boost 10psi

> >3 1/2 in exhaust

> >filter

> >550x300x75 intercooler

> >exhaust ported head to match the manifold

> >to4e ct26

> >hks type k fuel cut defender (designed for the 7mgte)

> >

> >my car is my daily driver and drag car :D

> >

> >there's my big list of mods ;)

> >

> >

> >

> > >From: Marc Archbold <marc.a@paradise.net.nz>

> > >Reply-To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List" <sconz@list.supras.org.nz>

> > >To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List" <sconz@list.supras.org.nz>

> > >Subject: RE: [sconz] cc's rule - but turbos are better

> > >Date: Thu, 24 Jun 2004 20:41:45 +1200

> > >

> > >

> > >Great to hear your workshop is doing well. What I cant figure is why

>

> > >the reluctancy in detailing what you have actually done to acheive

> > >such

> >

> > >great results with your car; why? This list group is for

> > >contributors,

> >

> > >not vaunting.

> > >

> > >Are your cars great daily drivers or just fast straight liners? The

> > >way I understand it is that it's difficult to have both in a single

> > >package.

> > >

> > >

> > >Hunt, great that you have a 14 Second car, but sounds like you have

> > >quite some issues with it running properly. You're not listening.

> > >Suze, you've stuffed an engine, cant say the list didn't warn you.

> > >John, How many transmissions will it take?

> > >

> > >

> > >Cordially,

> > >Marc

2004-06-24 21:31:00

2004-06-24 21:35:00

What you trying to say Hunt talk

>Reply-To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List" <sconz@list.supras.org.nz>

>To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List" <sconz@list.supras.org.nz>

>Subject: RE: [sconz] cc's rule - but turbos are better

>Date: Thu, 24 Jun 2004 21:30:28 +1200

> _____

>From: bounce-34729-72@list.supras.org.nz

>[mailto:bounce-34729-72@list.supras.org.nz] On Behalf Of john shannon

>Sent: Thursday, 24 June 2004 9:26 p.m.

>Subject: RE: [sconz] cc's rule - but turbos are better

>that is true that is why you never give me your 1jz to drive

> >From: Marc Archbold <marc.a@paradise.net.nz>

> >Reply-To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List" <sconz@list.supras.org.nz>

> >To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List" <sconz@list.supras.org.nz>

> >Subject: RE: [sconz] cc's rule - but turbos are better

> >Date: Thu, 24 Jun 2004 21:22:10 +1200

> >This is what I am reffering to:

> >Never say "1JZ's are Bulletproof"...

> >http://www.supra.co.nz/john.htm

> >From: bounce-34721-25@list.supras.org.nz

> >[mailto:bounce-34721-25@list.supras.org.nz] On Behalf Of Suze W

> >Sent: Thursday, 24 June 2004 9:19 p.m.

> >Subject: RE: [sconz] cc's rule - but turbos are better

> >what has detonation on a 1jz got to do with my 7m blowing a head gasket?

> >lol

> > >From: Marc Archbold <marc.a@paradise.net.nz>

> > >Reply-To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List" <sconz@list.supras.org.nz>

> > >To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List" <sconz@list.supras.org.nz>

> > >Subject: RE: [sconz] cc's rule - but turbos are better

> > >Date: Thu, 24 Jun 2004 21:15:34 +1200

> > >Not the FCD entirely, but Im sure that contributed.

> > >You blew it because you didn't and still don't understand. Nor will

> > >you take advice. Your website explains it thoroughly and yes a JZ

> > >engine will fail when you don't understand what you're doing. The

> > >major detonation shown on your website is a conclusive example of this.

> > >-----Original Message-----

> > >From: bounce-34705-25@list.supras.org.nz

> > >[mailto:bounce-34705-25@list.supras.org.nz] On Behalf Of Suze W

> > >Sent: Thursday, 24 June 2004 8:52 p.m.

> > >To: Supra Club of NZ Mailing List

> > >Subject: RE: [sconz] cc's rule - but turbos are better

> > > >Suze, you've stuffed an engine, cant say the list didn't warn you.

> > >oh and why do you think i've done this?

> > >ohhhh that's right the fcd thats soooo bad it will blow up my car

> > >straight away

> > >i do believe thats the only thing that the supra club in general

> >believe

> > >was

> > >the wrong way to do things

> > >if you would like me to share i will happily do so,

> > >and if you would like to read previous posts on what i have said about

> > >my

> > >engine you will know why i blew it... oh and you knew this was going to

> > >happen, would you like to enlighten me how you knew? oh and what it was

> > >exactly that blew it?

> > >mods to my almighty and powerful 7m

> > >boost 10psi

> > >3 1/2 in exhaust

> > >filter

> > >550x300x75 intercooler

> > >exhaust ported head to match the manifold

> > >to4e ct26

> > >hks type k fuel cut defender (designed for the 7mgte)

> > >my car is my daily driver and drag car :D

> > >there's my big list of mods ;)

> > > >From: Marc Archbold <marc.a@paradise.net.nz>

> > > >Reply-To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List" <sconz@list.supras.org.nz>

> > > >To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List" <sconz@list.supras.org.nz>

> > > >Subject: RE: [sconz] cc's rule - but turbos are better

> > > >Date: Thu, 24 Jun 2004 20:41:45 +1200

> > > >Great to hear your workshop is doing well. What I cant figure is why

> > > >the reluctancy in detailing what you have actually done to acheive

> > > >such

> > > >great results with your car; why? This list group is for

> > > >Are your cars great daily drivers or just fast straight liners? The

> > > >way I understand it is that it's difficult to have both in a single

> > > >package.

> > > >Hunt, great that you have a 14 Second car, but sounds like you have

> > > >quite some issues with it running properly. You're not listening.

> > > >Suze, you've stuffed an engine, cant say the list didn't warn you.

> > > >John, How many transmissions will it take?

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From: bounce-34734-72@list.supras.org.nz
[mailto:bounce-34734-72@list.supras.org.nz] On Behalf Of john shannon
Sent: Thursday, 24 June 2004 9:35 p.m.
To: Supra Club of NZ Mailing List
Subject: RE: [sconz] cc's rule - but turbos are better

What you trying to say Hunt talk

>From: "Hunt M" <5uprah@supras.co.nz>

>Reply-To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List" <sconz@list.supras.org.nz>

>To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List" <sconz@list.supras.org.nz>

>Subject: RE: [sconz] cc's rule - but turbos are better

>Date: Thu, 24 Jun 2004 21:30:28 +1200

>

>

>

>

>

> _____

>

>From: bounce-34729-72@list.supras.org.nz

>[mailto:bounce-34729-72@list.supras.org.nz] On Behalf Of john shannon

>Sent: Thursday, 24 June 2004 9:26 p.m.

>To: Supra Club of NZ Mailing List

>Subject: RE: [sconz] cc's rule - but turbos are better

>

>

>

>that is true that is why you never give me your 1jz to drive

>

> >From: Marc Archbold <marc.a@paradise.net.nz>

>

> >Reply-To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List" <sconz@list.supras.org.nz>

>

> >To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List" <sconz@list.supras.org.nz>

>

> >Subject: RE: [sconz] cc's rule - but turbos are better

>

> >Date: Thu, 24 Jun 2004 21:22:10 +1200

>

> >

>

> >

2004-06-24 21:48:00

2004-06-24 23:53:00

2004-06-25 08:58:00

Absolutley there is more than one may, but when the end result is failure that
is arguably the 'correct way.'

Hey they are your cars, you're free to do what ever you please. Adopting that
attitude and ignoring advice wont get you far.

> good on ya hunt i agree completely :)
>
>
> >From: "Hunt M" <5uprah@supras.co.nz>
> >Reply-To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List" <sconz@list.supras.org.nz>
> >To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List" <sconz@list.supras.org.nz>
> >Subject: RE: [sconz] cc's rule - but turbos are better
> >Date: Thu, 24 Jun 2004 21:23:50 +1200
> >
> >OK I am in NO WAY defending Suze and her decisions - don't get me wrong
> -
> >all I am saying is in regards to my issues is that so many things that
> I
> >have done - yes they have gone wrong - and perhaps I should have
> listened
> >to
> >SCONZ before doing them BUT there have been many things that have gone
>
> >right
> >as well and I've very proud of that.
> >There is not always one way to do things correctly....
> >
> >Hunt
> >
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: bounce-34722-72@list.supras.org.nz
> >[mailto:bounce-34722-72@list.supras .org.nz] On Behalf Of Marc
> Archbold
> >Sent: Thursday, 24 June 2004 9:19 p.m.
> >To: Supra Club of NZ Mailing List
> >Subject: RE: [sconz] cc's rule - but turbos are better
> >
> >
> >No, the morale of the story is both listen and learn. Naturally you
> can
> >choose to think - "stuff it, I know better" or "what do they know."
> >Take one Camry, give it to someone with out a clue to hot it up, and
> the
> >result is the same. It might actually run fine for a couple of runs on
> >the drag strip....
> >
> >
> >- Marc
> >
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: bounce-34711-25@list.supras.org.nz
> >[mailto:bounce-34711-25@list.supras .org.nz] On Behalf Of Hunt M
> >Sent: Thursday, 24 June 2004 9:01 p.m.
> >To: Supra Club of NZ Mailing List
> >Subject: RE: [sconz] cc's rule - but turbos are better
> >
> >
> >Perhaps it's a way of contributing - sort of like "look this is what I
> >did and look at the result" - of course often not positive but
> >sometimes.
> >
> >Yes my car is my daily driver - yes I want it to be a fast straight
> >liner but like you say it is very difficult to have both in the same
> >package - hence not wanting to turn boost over 9psi - for now.
> >
> >I have issues with my car running properly - yes - but hey how can you
> >find out what the limit of something is without going over it -
> >remembering that generally what I have done no-one else has so there
> is
> >no help or solid advice available - when there is I thank you all -
> even
> >though I often will try my own theories first :)
> >
> >Suze - yes your engine blew - bugger - perhaps you should get a 1G -
> oh
> >wait no no cos at least now when I beat you, you can say "oh it must
> be
> >because he has a 1G" :)
> >
> >John - yes you do seem to be going through a lot of gearboxes - not
> >really a lot you could do about it - go manual? Sure you could but
> >perhaps you'd end up going through the same amount of clutches?
> >
> >Moral of the story is thus - you're grandparents Toyota Camry - is a
> lot
> >more reliable than your supra - you're friends Corolla never breaks
> down
> >- aren't exactly performance cars - how often do you see a F1 car or a
> >V8 super car go season after season without having anything replaced?
> >Not often....
> >
> >Hunt
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: bounce-34698-72@list.supras.org.nz
> >[mailto:bounce-34698-72@list.supras .org.nz] On Behalf Of Marc
> Archbold
> >Sent: Thursday, 24 June 2004 8:42 p.m.
> >To: Supra Club of NZ Mailing List
> >Subject: RE: [sconz] cc's rule - but turbos are better
> >
> >
> >Great to hear your workshop is doing well. What I cant figure is why
> >the reluctancy in detailing what you have actually done to acheive
> such
> >great results with your car; why? This list group is for contributors,
> >not vaunting.
> >
> >Are your cars great daily drivers or just fast straight liners? The
> way
> >I understand it is that it's difficult to have both in a single
> package.
> >
> >
> >Hunt, great that you have a 14 Second car, but sounds like you have
> >quite some issues with it running properly. You're not listening.
> Suze,
> >you've stuffed an engine, cant say the list didn't warn you. John, How
> >many transmissions will it take?
> >
> >
> >Cordially,
> >Marc
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: bounce-34686-25@list.supras.org.nz
> >[mailto:bounce-34686-25@list.supras .org.nz] On Behalf Of john shannon
> >Sent: Thursday, 24 June 2004 8:14 p.m.
> >To: Supra Club of NZ Mailing List
> >Subject: RE: [sconz] cc's rule - but turbos are better
> >
> >
> >Hey Hunt dont you think its funny that the 3 fastest supras are from
> my
> >work shop funny that hey.
> >
> >
> > >From: "Hunt M" <5uprah@supras.co.nz>
> > >Reply-To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List" <sconz@list.supras.org.nz>
> > >To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List" <sconz@list.supras.org.nz>
> > >Subject: RE: [sconz] cc's rule - but turbos are better
> > >Date: Thu, 24 Jun 2004 18:31:20 +1200
> > >
> > >Not at all - when racing I push my car to the limit - and then some
> >(anyone
> > >who's seen me race can vouch for this) - drag racing you only loose
> >traction
> > >and spin the wheels, and your going straight ahead so no biggie -
> track
> >
> > >racing I would push my car to the limit as well but if I were to go
> >over
> > >that limit I could spin out and cause damage to my car - I just
> don't
> >like
> > >the thought of smashing up something that I have spent literally
> >hundreds of
> > >hours on to get to the level that it is at.
> > >Don't mention taking my car out on the road every day and about
> primera
> >
> > >owners :)
> > >
> > >Hunt
> > >
> > >-----Original Message-----
> > >From: bounce-34682-72@list.supras.org.nz
> > >[mailto:bounce-34682-72@list.supras.org.nz] On Behalf Of Cully
> Paterson
> >
> > >Sent: Thursday, 24 June 2004 6:27 p.m.
> > >To: Supra Club of NZ Mailing List
> > >Subject: RE: [sconz] cc's rule - but turbos are better
> > >
> > >Apparently you're afraid of going around corners, so I guess I'll
> never
> >
> > >be able to prove otherwise...
> > >
> > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: Hunt M [mailto:5uprah@supras.co.nz]
> > > > Sent: Thursday, 24 June 2004 6:21 p.m.
> > > > To: SCONZ.list Forward
> > > > Subject: RE: [sconz] cc's rule - but turbos are better
> > > >
> > > > Perhaps the driver?
> > > >
> > > > Mwhaaahahaha *waits for flames* :)
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: bounce-34680-72@list.supras.org.nz
> > > > [mailto:bounce-34680-72@list.supras.org.nz] On Behalf Of
> > > > Cully Paterson
> > > > Sent: Thursday, 24 June 2004 6:19 p.m.
> > > > To: Supra Club of NZ Mailing List
> > > > Subject: RE: [sconz] cc's rule - but turbos are better
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > All fine and dandy that Robbies car got 210rwhp @ 14psi with
> his
> > > > > single turbo conversion BUT I got 211rwhp (159rwkw) with
> > > > the stock TT
> > > > > setup @ 12 psi boost with air filter and exhaust and bleed
> > > > valve, ran
> > > > > a 14.4 with that set up then a 14.2 @ 14psi boost same day -
> now
> > > > > running 9psi and car feels and is a lot stronger than
> before......
> >
> > > >
> > > > You seem entirely convinced that 1/4 mile numbers actually
> > > > mean something. In a road car it's just irrelevant! I
> > > > dyno'd with 112kw MORE than Suze got, and she's now got a
> > > > better 1/4 time than me. It may as well be random numbers.
> > > >
> > > > Cully
> > > >
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