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anyone selling any turbos?   2004-11-25 15:09:00 <john@...>
Anyone got a turbo to sell? even if broken and smoky?

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Re: anyone selling any turbos?   2004-11-25 15:39:00 <Adrian Maka>
anything in particular?

> Anyone got a turbo to sell? even if broken and smoky?
>
>
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re: anyone selling any turbos?   2004-11-26 02:16:00 <Stu2>
I've got a CT26 that needs seals and bearings, thought about selling it but dunno what it's worth...
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re:anyone selling any turbos?   2004-11-26 13:59:00 <john@...>
heh, that sounds like it would fit just right with the car that needs it :)

what would you take for it?



Quoting Stu2 <happydayradio@hotmail.com>:

> I've got a CT26 that needs seals and bearings, thought about selling it but
> dunno what it's worth...
> ---
> Supra Club of New Zealand - http://www.supras.org.nz/
> Website sponsored by Alltech Diesel & Turbocharger http://www.turbo.co.nz
>




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RE: anyone selling any turbos?   2004-11-26 14:00:00 <Cully Paterson>

Don't even think about bolting a CT26 to a 1JZ. It'd be a dog!


> -----Original Message-----
> From: john@weaversoft.com [mailto:john@weaversoft.com]
> Sent: Friday, 26 November 2004 1:59 p.m.
> To: SCONZ.list Forward
> Subject: re:[sconz] anyone selling any turbos?
>
> heh, that sounds like it would fit just right with the car
> that needs it :)
>
> what would you take for it?
>
>
>
> Quoting Stu2 <happydayradio@hotmail.com>:
>
> > I've got a CT26 that needs seals and bearings, thought
> about selling
> > it but dunno what it's worth...
> > ---
> > Supra Club of New Zealand - http://www.supras.org.nz/ Website
> > sponsored by Alltech Diesel & Turbocharger http://www.turbo.co.nz
> >
>
>
>
>
>
> ---
> Supra Club of New Zealand - http://www.supras.org.nz/ Website
> sponsored by Alltech Diesel & Turbocharger http://www.turbo.co.nz
>
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RE: anyone selling any turbos?   2004-11-26 14:05:00 <Hunt M>
How big is the exhaust wheel on a CT26?

Cheers
Hunt
www.supras.co.nz *home to the not so standard 1G-GTE*

-----Original Message-----
From: bounce-38486-72@list.supras.org.nz
[mailto:bounce-38486-72@list.supras.org.nz] On Behalf Of Cully Paterson
Sent: Friday, 26 November 2004 2:00 p.m.
To: Supra Club of NZ Mailing List
Subject: RE: [sconz] anyone selling any turbos?


Don't even think about bolting a CT26 to a 1JZ. It'd be a dog!


> -----Original Message-----
> From: john@weaversoft.com [mailto:john@weaversoft.com]
> Sent: Friday, 26 November 2004 1:59 p.m.
> To: SCONZ.list Forward
> Subject: re:[sconz] anyone selling any turbos?
>
> heh, that sounds like it would fit just right with the car
> that needs it :)
>
> what would you take for it?
>
>
>
> Quoting Stu2 <happydayradio@hotmail.com>:
>
> > I've got a CT26 that needs seals and bearings, thought
> about selling
> > it but dunno what it's worth...
> > ---
> > Supra Club of New Zealand - http://www.supras.org.nz/ Website
> > sponsored by Alltech Diesel & Turbocharger http://www.turbo.co.nz
> >
>
>
>
>
>
> ---
> Supra Club of New Zealand - http://www.supras.org.nz/ Website
> sponsored by Alltech Diesel & Turbocharger http://www.turbo.co.nz
>

---
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Website sponsored by Alltech Diesel & Turbocharger http://www.turbo.co.nz

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RE: anyone selling any turbos?   2004-11-26 14:06:00 <john@...>
LOL! nah I'm not thinking of bolting a CT26 to a 1JZ,

I'm thinking of switching the steel bits in a ct26 with the ceramic bits in my
CT20b and then using the CT26 on a semi-custom application at > 1 bar boost,

I cant really justify a 1JZ unless I can get an ECU + Loom + manual transmission
with it,
but even when I do get the 1jz i'll still be doing things with the ct26

Quoting Cully Paterson <Cully@supras.org.nz>:

>
> Don't even think about bolting a CT26 to a 1JZ. It'd be a dog!
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: john@weaversoft.com [mailto:john@weaversoft.com]
> > Sent: Friday, 26 November 2004 1:59 p.m.
> > To: SCONZ.list Forward
> > Subject: re:[sconz] anyone selling any turbos?
> >
> > heh, that sounds like it would fit just right with the car
> > that needs it :)
> >
> > what would you take for it?
> >
> >
> >
> > Quoting Stu2 <happydayradio@hotmail.com>:
> >
> > > I've got a CT26 that needs seals and bearings, thought
> > about selling
> > > it but dunno what it's worth...
> > > ---
> > > Supra Club of New Zealand - http://www.supras.org.nz/ Website
> > > sponsored by Alltech Diesel & Turbocharger http://www.turbo.co.nz
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ---
> > Supra Club of New Zealand - http://www.supras.org.nz/ Website
> > sponsored by Alltech Diesel & Turbocharger http://www.turbo.co.nz
> >
>
> ---
> Supra Club of New Zealand - http://www.supras.org.nz/
> Website sponsored by Alltech Diesel & Turbocharger http://www.turbo.co.nz
>




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RE: anyone selling any turbos?   2004-11-26 14:34:00 <Doig, Richard>
> I'm thinking of switching the steel bits in a ct26 with the ceramic bits
> in my
> CT20b

Um, aren't the parts quite different??


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RE: anyone selling any turbos?   2004-11-26 14:35:00 <Cully Paterson>
66mm inducer, 56mm exducer *approximately*. There are variations
depending on the exact model.


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Hunt M [mailto:5uprah@supras.co.nz]
> Sent: Friday, 26 November 2004 2:05 p.m.
> To: SCONZ.list Forward
> Subject: RE: [sconz] anyone selling any turbos?
>
> How big is the exhaust wheel on a CT26?
>
> Cheers
> Hunt
> www.supras.co.nz *home to the not so standard 1G-GTE*
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: bounce-38486-72@list.supras.org.nz
> [mailto:bounce-38486-72@list.supras.org.nz] On Behalf Of
> Cully Paterson
> Sent: Friday, 26 November 2004 2:00 p.m.
> To: Supra Club of NZ Mailing List
> Subject: RE: [sconz] anyone selling any turbos?
>
>
> Don't even think about bolting a CT26 to a 1JZ. It'd be a dog!
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: john@weaversoft.com [mailto:john@weaversoft.com]
> > Sent: Friday, 26 November 2004 1:59 p.m.
> > To: SCONZ.list Forward
> > Subject: re:[sconz] anyone selling any turbos?
> >
> > heh, that sounds like it would fit just right with the car
> that needs
> > it :)
> >
> > what would you take for it?
> >
> >
> >
> > Quoting Stu2 <happydayradio@hotmail.com>:
> >
> > > I've got a CT26 that needs seals and bearings, thought
> > about selling
> > > it but dunno what it's worth...
> > > ---
> > > Supra Club of New Zealand - http://www.supras.org.nz/ Website
> > > sponsored by Alltech Diesel & Turbocharger http://www.turbo.co.nz
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ---
> > Supra Club of New Zealand - http://www.supras.org.nz/ Website
> > sponsored by Alltech Diesel & Turbocharger http://www.turbo.co.nz
> >
>
> ---
> Supra Club of New Zealand - http://www.supras.org.nz/ Website
> sponsored by Alltech Diesel & Turbocharger http://www.turbo.co.nz
>
>
> ---
> Supra Club of New Zealand - http://www.supras.org.nz/ Website
> sponsored by Alltech Diesel & Turbocharger http://www.turbo.co.nz
>
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RE: anyone selling any turbos?   2004-11-26 14:36:00 <Cully Paterson>


> -----Original Message-----
> From: john@weaversoft.com [mailto:john@weaversoft.com]
> Subject: RE: [sconz] anyone selling any turbos?
>
> LOL! nah I'm not thinking of bolting a CT26 to a 1JZ,
>
> I'm thinking of switching the steel bits in a ct26 with the
> ceramic bits in my CT20b and then using the CT26 on a
> semi-custom application at > 1 bar boost,


Then you're an even bigger wally! The internals of the 20B and 26
bearing no resemblance to each other whatsoever.

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RE: anyone selling any turbos?   2004-11-26 16:07:00 <Marc Archbold>

Interesting - Turbo Tech in Christchurch have done just that.
Said it went really well.

>
> Don't even think about bolting a CT26 to a 1JZ. It'd be a dog!
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: john@weaversoft.com [mailto:john@weaversoft.com]
> > Sent: Friday, 26 November 2004 1:59 p.m.
> > To: SCONZ.list Forward
> > Subject: re:[sconz] anyone selling any turbos?
> >
> > heh, that sounds like it would fit just right with the car
> > that needs it :)
> >
> > what would you take for it?
> >
> >
> >
> > Quoting Stu2 <happydayradio@hotmail.com>:
> >
> > > I've got a CT26 that needs seals and bearings, thought
> > about selling
> > > it but dunno what it's worth...
> > > ---
> > > Supra Club of New Zealand - http://www.supras.org.nz/ Website
> > > sponsored by Alltech Diesel & Turbocharger http://www.turbo.co.nz
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ---
> > Supra Club of New Zealand - http://www.supras.org.nz/ Website
> > sponsored by Alltech Diesel & Turbocharger http://www.turbo.co.nz
> >
>
> ---
> Supra Club of New Zealand - http://www.supras.org.nz/
> Website sponsored by Alltech Diesel & Turbocharger
> http://www.turbo.co.nz
>

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RE: anyone selling any turbos?   2004-11-26 16:53:00 <john@...>
Hrmm my wires look thoroughly crossed... lol.

well I'll probably just rebuild the ct26 and ct20b seperately, and use them for
the same purpose....

eh.


Quoting Cully Paterson <Cully@supras.org.nz>:

>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: john@weaversoft.com [mailto:john@weaversoft.com]
> > Subject: RE: [sconz] anyone selling any turbos?
> >
> > LOL! nah I'm not thinking of bolting a CT26 to a 1JZ,
> >
> > I'm thinking of switching the steel bits in a ct26 with the
> > ceramic bits in my CT20b and then using the CT26 on a
> > semi-custom application at > 1 bar boost,
>
>
> Then you're an even bigger wally! The internals of the 20B and 26
> bearing no resemblance to each other whatsoever.
>
>
> ---
> Supra Club of New Zealand - http://www.supras.org.nz/
> Website sponsored by Alltech Diesel & Turbocharger http://www.turbo.co.nz
>




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RE: anyone selling any turbos?   2004-11-26 16:53:00 <john@...>
nfi, Thats why I posted it here, and
why I said I was thinking..., I had been told that the actual housing of the two
are the same....

in fact when I went to a couple of places to find out about high-flowing /
hybridising my ct20b they reckoned that a CT26 and the ct20b are the same
thing, just the ct20b puts out a little more, etc. and isnt full steel



Quoting "Doig, Richard" <Richard.Doig@airnz.co.nz>:

> > I'm thinking of switching the steel bits in a ct26 with the ceramic bits
> > in my
> > CT20b
>
> Um, aren't the parts quite different??
>
>
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Re: anyone selling any turbos?   2004-11-26 21:38:00 <Dave Thom>
Out of curiosity, why exactly? And on the same note, how would it perform on
a 1G? Or a CT20b on a 1G?

Regards

Dave Thom
IT Engineer
029 5666643
----- Original Message -----
From: "Cully Paterson" <Cully@supras.org.nz>
To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List" <sconz@list.supras.org.nz>
Sent: Friday, November 26, 2004 2:00 PM
Subject: RE: [sconz] anyone selling any turbos?



Don't even think about bolting a CT26 to a 1JZ. It'd be a dog!


> -----Original Message-----
> From: john@weaversoft.com [mailto:john@weaversoft.com]
> Sent: Friday, 26 November 2004 1:59 p.m.
> To: SCONZ.list Forward
> Subject: re:[sconz] anyone selling any turbos?
>
> heh, that sounds like it would fit just right with the car
> that needs it :)
>
> what would you take for it?
>
>
>
> Quoting Stu2 <happydayradio@hotmail.com>:
>
> > I've got a CT26 that needs seals and bearings, thought
> about selling
> > it but dunno what it's worth...
> > ---
> > Supra Club of New Zealand - http://www.supras.org.nz/ Website
> > sponsored by Alltech Diesel & Turbocharger http://www.turbo.co.nz
> >
>
>
>
>
>
> ---
> Supra Club of New Zealand - http://www.supras.org.nz/ Website
> sponsored by Alltech Diesel & Turbocharger http://www.turbo.co.nz
>

---
Supra Club of New Zealand - http://www.supras.org.nz/
Website sponsored by Alltech Diesel & Turbocharger http://www.turbo.co.nz



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Re: anyone selling any turbos?   2004-11-26 22:09:00 <john shannon>

No for the 1jz go for a t88 that do the trick.

>From: "Dave Thom" <supras@boost.org.nz>
>Reply-To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List" <sconz@list.supras.org.nz>
>To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List" <sconz@list.supras.org.nz>
>Subject: Re: [sconz] anyone selling any turbos?
>Date: Fri, 26 Nov 2004 21:37:52 +1300
>
>Out of curiosity, why exactly? And on the same note, how would it perform on
>a 1G? Or a CT20b on a 1G?
>
>Regards
>
>Dave Thom
>IT Engineer
>029 5666643
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Cully Paterson" <Cully@supras.org.nz>
>To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List" <sconz@list.supras.org.nz>
>Sent: Friday, November 26, 2004 2:00 PM
>Subject: RE: [sconz] anyone selling any turbos?
>
>
>
>Don't even think about bolting a CT26 to a 1JZ.  It'd be a dog!
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: john@weaversoft.com [mailto:john@weaversoft.com]
> > Sent: Friday, 26 November 2004 1:59 p.m.
> > To: SCONZ.list Forward
> > Subject: re:[sconz] anyone selling any turbos?
> >
> > heh, that sounds like it would fit just right with the car
> > that needs it :)
> >
> > what would you take for it?
> >
> >
> >
> > Quoting Stu2 <happydayradio@hotmail.com>:
> >
> > > I've got a CT26 that needs seals and bearings, thought
> > about selling
> > > it but dunno what it's worth...
> > > ---
> > > Supra Club of New Zealand - http://www.supras.org.nz/ Website
> > > sponsored by Alltech Diesel & Turbocharger http://www.turbo.co.nz
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ---
> > Supra Club of New Zealand - http://www.supras.org.nz/ Website
> > sponsored by Alltech Diesel & Turbocharger http://www.turbo.co.nz
> >
>
>---
>Supra Club of New Zealand - http://www.supras.org.nz/
>Website sponsored by Alltech Diesel & Turbocharger http://www.turbo.co.nz
>
>
>
>
>---
>Supra Club of New Zealand - http://www.supras.org.nz/
>Website sponsored by Alltech Diesel & Turbocharger http://www.turbo.co.nz


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RE: anyone selling any turbos?   2004-11-26 22:16:00 <john shannon>

Well all i can say is i think the ct26 will be to small for a 1jz i have got a turbo half the size again than a ct26 and i have no lag whats so ever.

>From: Marc Archbold <marc.a@paradise.net.nz>
>Reply-To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List" <sconz@list.supras.org.nz>
>To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List" <sconz@list.supras.org.nz>
>Subject: RE: [sconz] anyone selling any turbos?
>Date: Fri, 26 Nov 2004 16:06:53 +1300 (NZDT)
>
>
>Interesting - Turbo Tech in Christchurch have done just that.
>Said it went really well.
>
> >
> > Don't even think about bolting a CT26 to a 1JZ. It'd be a dog!
> >
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: john@weaversoft.com [mailto:john@weaversoft.com]
> > > Sent: Friday, 26 November 2004 1:59 p.m.
> > > To: SCONZ.list Forward
> > > Subject: re:[sconz] anyone selling any turbos?
> > >
> > > heh, that sounds like it would fit just right with the car
> > > that needs it :)
> > >
> > > what would you take for it?
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Quoting Stu2 <happydayradio@hotmail.com>:
> > >
> > > > I've got a CT26 that needs seals and bearings, thought
> > > about selling
> > > > it but dunno what it's worth...
> > > > ---
> > > > Supra Club of New Zealand - http://www.supras.org.nz/ Website
> > > > sponsored by Alltech Diesel & Turbocharger http://www.turbo.co.nz
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ---
> > > Supra Club of New Zealand - http://www.supras.org.nz/ Website
> > > sponsored by Alltech Diesel & Turbocharger http://www.turbo.co.nz
> > >
> >
> > ---
> > Supra Club of New Zealand - http://www.supras.org.nz/
> > Website sponsored by Alltech Diesel & Turbocharger
> > http://www.turbo.co.nz
> >
>
>
>---
>Supra Club of New Zealand - http://www.supras.org.nz/
>Website sponsored by Alltech Diesel & Turbocharger http://www.turbo.co.nz


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RE: anyone selling any turbos?   2004-11-29 13:10:00 <Cully Paterson>


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Dave Thom [mailto:supras@boost.org.nz]
> Subject: Re: [sconz] anyone selling any turbos?

>> Don't even think about bolting a CT26 to a 1JZ. It'd be a dog!

> Out of curiosity, why exactly? And on the same note, how
> would it perform on a 1G? Or a CT20b on a 1G?


It's a matter of horses for courses. The CT26 is just a dodgy copy of a
T04B, but with less finesse. The rotating parts in a CT26 weight nearly
half a kilogram (yes I have weighed them accurately before anyone asks),
and the rest of the assembly is designed more with cost of manufacture
in mind rather than performance. They bolt them to diesel Landcruisers
after all...

The CT26 on the 7M was never really there to add a whole lot of power to
the equation, but more to create a point of difference for the different
models. Witness that the non-turbo/turbo performance difference amounts
to 33HP/52lb-ft, with very little if any change in whereabouts the power
is being delivered in the rev range. Power increase is around 16%
through the turbo.

The 1JZ on the other hand is a transformation. Power goes up
80HP/52lb-ft, or around 51% increase over the non-turbo. Importantly
the torque peak also occurs higher up the rev range (by about 1000
revs), which is an indication of a significant performance boost (higher
torque peak is very desireable to make best use of gearing to produce
the highest possible acceleration).

Net effect is the CT26 is a lazy turbo for (relatively) lazy engine.
Strapping one of these to a 1JZ isn't going to light the world on fire.
About the only gain you could expect would be from an improved exhaust
manifold set-up, assuming that you made one from scratch to suit.

OTOH, a CT26 on a 1G seems to work relatively well, so long as you don't
mind lag. The 50% smaller engine puts the air flow capabilities of the
CT26 more into the 'performance' end of the 1Gs spectrum. But really,
the lag is heinous.

Cully

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RE: anyone selling any turbos?   2004-11-29 13:17:00 <Hunt M>
Has anyone actually put a CT26 on a 1G with a good result? i.e. over
190-200rwkw?
I remember someone made some homemade manifold set up and got like
150-160rwkw at like 14psi or something, but that was with a not so pretty
manifold - pile of poo could be the best words to describe it?

Cheers
Hunt
www.supras.co.nz *home to the not so standard 1G-GTE*


-----Original Message-----
From: bounce-38560-72@list.supras.org.nz
[mailto:bounce-38560-72@list.supras.org.nz] On Behalf Of Cully Paterson
Sent: Monday, 29 November 2004 1:10 p.m.
To: Supra Club of NZ Mailing List
Subject: RE: [sconz] anyone selling any turbos?



> -----Original Message-----
> From: Dave Thom [mailto:supras@boost.org.nz]
> Subject: Re: [sconz] anyone selling any turbos?

>> Don't even think about bolting a CT26 to a 1JZ. It'd be a dog!

> Out of curiosity, why exactly? And on the same note, how
> would it perform on a 1G? Or a CT20b on a 1G?


It's a matter of horses for courses. The CT26 is just a dodgy copy of a
T04B, but with less finesse. The rotating parts in a CT26 weight nearly
half a kilogram (yes I have weighed them accurately before anyone asks),
and the rest of the assembly is designed more with cost of manufacture
in mind rather than performance. They bolt them to diesel Landcruisers
after all...

The CT26 on the 7M was never really there to add a whole lot of power to
the equation, but more to create a point of difference for the different
models. Witness that the non-turbo/turbo performance difference amounts
to 33HP/52lb-ft, with very little if any change in whereabouts the power
is being delivered in the rev range. Power increase is around 16%
through the turbo.

The 1JZ on the other hand is a transformation. Power goes up
80HP/52lb-ft, or around 51% increase over the non-turbo. Importantly
the torque peak also occurs higher up the rev range (by about 1000
revs), which is an indication of a significant performance boost (higher
torque peak is very desireable to make best use of gearing to produce
the highest possible acceleration).

Net effect is the CT26 is a lazy turbo for (relatively) lazy engine.
Strapping one of these to a 1JZ isn't going to light the world on fire.
About the only gain you could expect would be from an improved exhaust
manifold set-up, assuming that you made one from scratch to suit.

OTOH, a CT26 on a 1G seems to work relatively well, so long as you don't
mind lag. The 50% smaller engine puts the air flow capabilities of the
CT26 more into the 'performance' end of the 1Gs spectrum. But really,
the lag is heinous.

Cully


---
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RE: anyone selling any turbos?   2004-11-29 13:25:00 <Cully Paterson>


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Hunt M [mailto:5uprah@supras.co.nz]
> Subject: RE: [sconz] anyone selling any turbos?
>
> Has anyone actually put a CT26 on a 1G with a good result?
> i.e. over 190-200rwkw?
> I remember someone made some homemade manifold set up and got
> like 150-160rwkw at like 14psi or something, but that was
> with a not so pretty manifold - pile of poo could be the best
> words to describe it?


Well your memory isn't entirely crap:
http://www.supras.org.nz/members/memberdetail.php?member=Robbi_Wright

On the road he was making a lot more boost than he could crank on the
dyno, and was genuinely a very quick car.


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RE: anyone selling any turbos?   2004-11-29 13:28:00 <Hunt M>
Why would he be able to make more boost on the road? More load on the
engine?
I bet it would have been pretty quick - 150rwkw and if you say so - more -
is not something to snigger at.

Cheers
Hunt
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From: bounce-38562-72@list.supras.org.nz
[mailto:bounce-38562-72@list.supras.org.nz] On Behalf Of Cully Paterson
Sent: Monday, 29 November 2004 1:25 p.m.
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Subject: RE: [sconz] anyone selling any turbos?



> -----Original Message-----
> From: Hunt M [mailto:5uprah@supras.co.nz]
> Subject: RE: [sconz] anyone selling any turbos?
>
> Has anyone actually put a CT26 on a 1G with a good result?
> i.e. over 190-200rwkw?
> I remember someone made some homemade manifold set up and got
> like 150-160rwkw at like 14psi or something, but that was
> with a not so pretty manifold - pile of poo could be the best
> words to describe it?


Well your memory isn't entirely crap:
http://www.supras.org.nz/members/memberdetail.php?member=Robbi_Wright

On the road he was making a lot more boost than he could crank on the
dyno, and was genuinely a very quick car.



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RE: anyone selling any turbos?   2004-11-29 13:31:00 <Cully Paterson>


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Hunt M [mailto:5uprah@supras.co.nz]
> Subject: RE: [sconz] anyone selling any turbos?
>
> Why would he be able to make more boost on the road? More
> load on the engine?

Yes.

Symptom of bad flow in manifolds/exhausts is the inability to hold boost
at higher revs. I have the same problem - can't maintain over 14psi on
the dyno.


> I bet it would have been pretty quick - 150rwkw and if you
> say so - more - is not something to snigger at.

It honestly was impressive, and sounded VERY cool.

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RE: anyone selling any turbos?   2004-11-29 13:33:00 <Hunt M>
Are you running the stock manifold with a flange or have you got a
custom/aftermarket one?

Cheers
Hunt
www.supras.co.nz *home to the not so standard 1G-GTE*


-----Original Message-----
From: bounce-38564-72@list.supras.org.nz
[mailto:bounce-38564-72@list.supras.org.nz] On Behalf Of Cully Paterson
Sent: Monday, 29 November 2004 1:31 p.m.
To: Supra Club of NZ Mailing List
Subject: RE: [sconz] anyone selling any turbos?



> -----Original Message-----
> From: Hunt M [mailto:5uprah@supras.co.nz]
> Subject: RE: [sconz] anyone selling any turbos?
>
> Why would he be able to make more boost on the road? More
> load on the engine?

Yes.

Symptom of bad flow in manifolds/exhausts is the inability to hold boost
at higher revs. I have the same problem - can't maintain over 14psi on
the dyno.


> I bet it would have been pretty quick - 150rwkw and if you
> say so - more - is not something to snigger at.

It honestly was impressive, and sounded VERY cool.


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RE: anyone selling any turbos?   2004-11-29 13:45:00 <Cully Paterson>


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Hunt M [mailto:5uprah@supras.co.nz]
> Sent: Monday, 29 November 2004 1:33 p.m.
> To: SCONZ.list Forward
> Subject: RE: [sconz] anyone selling any turbos?
>
> Are you running the stock manifold with a flange or have you
> got a custom/aftermarket one?

Cast HKS T04 manifold.


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RE: anyone selling any turbos?   2004-11-29 13:56:00 <Hunt M>
And it's the manifold that causing the restriction and not allowing you to
hold higher boost or the turbo or both?
What do you think you can do to overcome it?

Cheers
Hunt
www.supras.co.nz *home to the not so standard 1G-GTE*


-----Original Message-----
From: bounce-38566-72@list.supras.org.nz
[mailto:bounce-38566-72@list.supras.org.nz] On Behalf Of Cully Paterson
Sent: Monday, 29 November 2004 1:45 p.m.
To: Supra Club of NZ Mailing List
Subject: RE: [sconz] anyone selling any turbos?



> -----Original Message-----
> From: Hunt M [mailto:5uprah@supras.co.nz]
> Sent: Monday, 29 November 2004 1:33 p.m.
> To: SCONZ.list Forward
> Subject: RE: [sconz] anyone selling any turbos?
>
> Are you running the stock manifold with a flange or have you
> got a custom/aftermarket one?

Cast HKS T04 manifold.



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RE: anyone selling any turbos?   2004-11-29 14:12:00 <Cully Paterson>


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Hunt M [mailto:5uprah@supras.co.nz]
> Subject: RE: [sconz] anyone selling any turbos?
>
> And it's the manifold that causing the restriction and not
> allowing you to hold higher boost or the turbo or both?
> What do you think you can do to overcome it?

It's a manifold designed for a T04, but I'm running a sandwich-plated T3
on it. With the heavier T04 wheel it behaves fine, but it hasn't done
the business with the GT30 strapped to it. My solution is to build a
better one.


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Re: anyone selling any turbos?   2004-11-29 14:18:00 <qzm>
> It's a matter of horses for courses. The CT26 is just a dodgy copy of a
> T04B, but with less finesse. The rotating parts in a CT26 weight nearly
> half a kilogram (yes I have weighed them accurately before anyone asks),
> and the rest of the assembly is designed more with cost of manufacture
> in mind rather than performance. They bolt them to diesel Landcruisers
> after all...

Well, kind of.
The CT26 does have the one massive advantage over the T04 of having
water cooled bearings.
Other than that the T04 just shows it's years of development after the
ct26 froze IMHO.

> The CT26 on the 7M was never really there to add a whole lot of power to
> the equation, but more to create a point of difference for the different
> models. Witness that the non-turbo/turbo performance difference amounts
> to 33HP/52lb-ft, with very little if any change in whereabouts the power
> is being delivered in the rev range. Power increase is around 16%
> through the turbo.

Umm, much much more low end torque on the turbo model, and remember
the car was intended to release at 300HP, it was US insurance
companies that forced it down to 240. The NA was never going to do
that.

> Net effect is the CT26 is a lazy turbo for (relatively) lazy engine.
> Strapping one of these to a 1JZ isn't going to light the world on fire.
> About the only gain you could expect would be from an improved exhaust
> manifold set-up, assuming that you made one from scratch to suit.

The CT26 was a safe design, certanily the turbos on the 1jz are, I
think we can all agree, pretty much shite.

> OTOH, a CT26 on a 1G seems to work relatively well, so long as you don't
> mind lag. The 50% smaller engine puts the air flow capabilities of the
> CT26 more into the 'performance' end of the 1Gs spectrum. But really,
> the lag is heinous.

There are few other early 80's turbo that will do better, but of
course a lot of late 90's and 00 turbos that will do a lot better,
funny that.

The ct26 is, as you are saying, certainly not a turbo of choice except
for simple use in it's original applcation these days.

Regards,
Stuart W.
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RE: anyone selling any turbos?   2004-11-29 14:21:00 <Hunt M>
A turbo having a larger than normal exhaust wheel yet the same size
compressor wheel as the CT26 - would this mean that there is room for
improvement over the CT26?

Cheers
Hunt
www.supras.co.nz *home to the not so standard 1G-GTE*


-----Original Message-----
From: bounce-38570-72@list.supras.org.nz
[mailto:bounce-38570-72@list.supras.org.nz] On Behalf Of qzm
Sent: Monday, 29 November 2004 2:17 p.m.
To: Supra Club of NZ Mailing List
Subject: Re: [sconz] anyone selling any turbos?

> It's a matter of horses for courses. The CT26 is just a dodgy copy of a
> T04B, but with less finesse. The rotating parts in a CT26 weight nearly
> half a kilogram (yes I have weighed them accurately before anyone asks),
> and the rest of the assembly is designed more with cost of manufacture
> in mind rather than performance. They bolt them to diesel Landcruisers
> after all...

Well, kind of.
The CT26 does have the one massive advantage over the T04 of having
water cooled bearings.
Other than that the T04 just shows it's years of development after the
ct26 froze IMHO.

> The CT26 on the 7M was never really there to add a whole lot of power to
> the equation, but more to create a point of difference for the different
> models. Witness that the non-turbo/turbo performance difference amounts
> to 33HP/52lb-ft, with very little if any change in whereabouts the power
> is being delivered in the rev range. Power increase is around 16%
> through the turbo.

Umm, much much more low end torque on the turbo model, and remember
the car was intended to release at 300HP, it was US insurance
companies that forced it down to 240. The NA was never going to do
that.

> Net effect is the CT26 is a lazy turbo for (relatively) lazy engine.
> Strapping one of these to a 1JZ isn't going to light the world on fire.
> About the only gain you could expect would be from an improved exhaust
> manifold set-up, assuming that you made one from scratch to suit.

The CT26 was a safe design, certanily the turbos on the 1jz are, I
think we can all agree, pretty much shite.

> OTOH, a CT26 on a 1G seems to work relatively well, so long as you don't
> mind lag. The 50% smaller engine puts the air flow capabilities of the
> CT26 more into the 'performance' end of the 1Gs spectrum. But really,
> the lag is heinous.

There are few other early 80's turbo that will do better, but of
course a lot of late 90's and 00 turbos that will do a lot better,
funny that.

The ct26 is, as you are saying, certainly not a turbo of choice except
for simple use in it's original applcation these days.

Regards,
Stuart W.

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RE: anyone selling any turbos?   2004-11-29 14:32:00 <Darcy Cresswell>
Just out of interest, have you used/fitted the manifold yet? I've got one
the same or similar (HKS T04-flange cast manifold with ext. wastegate for
1G) and I'm just wondering where the turbo will sit in relation to the
standard twins etc. I had been told to try and get a T04B, but if anyone
has better suggestions for a turbo I'm all ears.

----Original Message Follows----
From: "Cully Paterson" <Cully@supras.org.nz>
Reply-To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List" <sconz@list.supras.org.nz>
To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List" <sconz@list.supras.org.nz>
Subject: RE: [sconz] anyone selling any turbos?
Date: Mon, 29 Nov 2004 13:45:18 +1300



> -----Original Message-----
> From: Hunt M [mailto:5uprah@supras.co.nz]
> Sent: Monday, 29 November 2004 1:33 p.m.
> To: SCONZ.list Forward
> Subject: RE: [sconz] anyone selling any turbos?
>
> Are you running the stock manifold with a flange or have you
> got a custom/aftermarket one?

Cast HKS T04 manifold.



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RE: anyone selling any turbos?   2004-11-29 14:46:00 <Cully Paterson>


> -----Original Message-----
> From: qzm [mailto:stuartaw@gmail.com]
> Subject: Re: [sconz] anyone selling any turbos?

> Well, kind of.
> The CT26 does have the one massive advantage over the T04 of
> having water cooled bearings.

Erm, hardly massive. The only situation in which water cooling helps is
where very hot shutdowns occur, and that's essentially only when non
tubo-savvy owners are involved. Water cooling is a method for the car
companies to ensure the vehicles make it through the warranty period in
one piece. Any given turbo will survive just as long with or without
water cooling, so long as it's treated right.


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RE: anyone selling any turbos?   2004-11-29 14:47:00 <Cully Paterson>


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Hunt M [mailto:5uprah@supras.co.nz]
> Sent: Monday, 29 November 2004 2:21 p.m.
> To: SCONZ.list Forward
> Subject: RE: [sconz] anyone selling any turbos?
>
> A turbo having a larger than normal exhaust wheel yet the
> same size compressor wheel as the CT26 - would this mean that
> there is room for improvement over the CT26?

What turbo are you talking about, or are you just dreaming one up at
random?

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RE: anyone selling any turbos?   2004-11-29 14:49:00 <Cully Paterson>


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Darcy Cresswell [mailto:dlc702@hotmail.com]
> Subject: RE: [sconz] anyone selling any turbos?
>
> Just out of interest, have you used/fitted the manifold yet?
> I've got one the same or similar (HKS T04-flange cast
> manifold with ext. wastegate for
> 1G) and I'm just wondering where the turbo will sit in
> relation to the standard twins etc. I had been told to try
> and get a T04B, but if anyone has better suggestions for a
> turbo I'm all ears.

It's been on my car for longer than the 7+ years I've owned it. The T04
sits in pretty much the same place as the stock CT26, but I can't vouch
for the 1G set up.

"Get a T04B" is like saying "buy a red car, they're faster". There's
hundreds of different T04B combinations out there, and no two are quite
the same. Having said that, a 'B' frame is a much better idea on a two
litre than an 'E' frame. Pretty much any 'E' will be too big for your
requirements.

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RE: anyone selling any turbos?   2004-11-29 14:49:00 <Hunt M>
K26

Cheers
Hunt
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-----Original Message-----
From: bounce-38574-72@list.supras.org.nz
[mailto:bounce-38574-72@list.supras.org.nz] On Behalf Of Cully Paterson
Sent: Monday, 29 November 2004 2:47 p.m.
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Subject: RE: [sconz] anyone selling any turbos?



> -----Original Message-----
> From: Hunt M [mailto:5uprah@supras.co.nz]
> Sent: Monday, 29 November 2004 2:21 p.m.
> To: SCONZ.list Forward
> Subject: RE: [sconz] anyone selling any turbos?
>
> A turbo having a larger than normal exhaust wheel yet the
> same size compressor wheel as the CT26 - would this mean that
> there is room for improvement over the CT26?

What turbo are you talking about, or are you just dreaming one up at
random?


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RE: anyone selling any turbos?   2004-11-29 14:52:00 <john@...>
so, whats the difference between a CT20b and a CT26?

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RE: anyone selling any turbos?   2004-11-29 14:56:00 <Cully Paterson>

> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Hunt M [mailto:5uprah@supras.co.nz]
> > Sent: Monday, 29 November 2004 2:21 p.m.
> > To: SCONZ.list Forward
> > Subject: RE: [sconz] anyone selling any turbos?

>>> A turbo having a larger than normal exhaust wheel yet the same size
>>> compressor wheel as the CT26 - would this mean that there is room
for
>>> improvement over the CT26?

>> What turbo are you talking about, or are you just dreaming
>> one up at random?

> K26


What a dumb question. You may as well ask whether random car A is
faster random car B based entirely on what air filter they've each
got...




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Re: anyone selling any turbos?   2004-11-29 14:57:00 <qzm>
> > Well, kind of.
> > The CT26 does have the one massive advantage over the T04 of
> > having water cooled bearings.
>
> Erm, hardly massive. The only situation in which water cooling helps is
> where very hot shutdowns occur, and that's essentially only when non
> tubo-savvy owners are involved. Water cooling is a method for the car
> companies to ensure the vehicles make it through the warranty period in
> one piece. Any given turbo will survive just as long with or without
> water cooling, so long as it's treated right.

True, 'massive' in that if you look at turbos from back in that era
(the garret on the RX7 turbo springs to mind, as well as similarly
aged turbo subarus) the ct26 shows as highly reliable WRT it's output.
For a daily driver IMHO water cooling is a large advantage, as it
significantly lowers coking in the bearings, which happens no matter
how careful cool downs are (of course lack of cool down causes surface
coking, much much worse and fatal, as you well know :) I suspect that
water cooling makes a major difference to the reliability of a
'joe-user' owned turbo car that is not pampered.

Water cooling will also significantly lower the bearings operational
temperature, being as how water has around 4 times the thermal
capacity of oil, and a much better flow rate.

Of course, in a race application it is of no importance at all, so
long a suitable budget is there.
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RE: anyone selling any turbos?   2004-11-29 14:58:00 <Cully Paterson>


> -----Original Message-----
> From: john@weaversoft.com [mailto:john@weaversoft.com]
> Subject: RE: [sconz] anyone selling any turbos?
>
> so, whats the difference between a CT20b and a CT26?

Completely different in all regards. They share no common major parts
and share no common dimensions. About the closest thing is the same
design of oil feed/drain.


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RE: anyone selling any turbos?   2004-11-29 15:03:00 <john@...>
ok.
How do you identify a CT26? or how do you
Identify a CT20B?



Quoting Cully Paterson <Cully@supras.org.nz>:

>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: john@weaversoft.com [mailto:john@weaversoft.com]
> > Subject: RE: [sconz] anyone selling any turbos?
> >
> > so, whats the difference between a CT20b and a CT26?
>
> Completely different in all regards. They share no common major parts
> and share no common dimensions. About the closest thing is the same
> design of oil feed/drain.
>
>
>
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RE: anyone selling any turbos?   2004-11-29 15:05:00 <john@...>
oh and which one has the bigger cfm flow? (presume ct26?)

Quoting "john@weaversoft.com" <john@weaversoft.com>:

> so, whats the difference between a CT20b and a CT26?
>
>
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RE: anyone selling any turbos?   2004-11-29 15:05:00 <Hunt M>
It was actually a generic question - deeper into it would have been - a
larger exhaust wheel would mean that a larger compressor wheel could be
fabricated without worrying about reaching the limits of the exhaust wheel?

Compressor wheels of the CT26 and K26 are nearly identical....same inner and
outer diameter and pretty much the same blade design - the compressor
housing however on the K26 is more restrictive so I'm told yet the hot side
is about to support up to around 450hp yet the cold side will fall way
short of that due inlet design of the compressor housing and the size of the
compressor wheel itself - so I'm told....

Cheers
Hunt
www.supras.co.nz *home to the not so standard 1G-GTE*


-----Original Message-----
From: bounce-38578-72@list.supras.org.nz
[mailto:bounce-38578-72@list.supras.org.nz] On Behalf Of Cully Paterson
Sent: Monday, 29 November 2004 2:56 p.m.
To: Supra Club of NZ Mailing List
Subject: RE: [sconz] anyone selling any turbos?


> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Hunt M [mailto:5uprah@supras.co.nz]
> > Sent: Monday, 29 November 2004 2:21 p.m.
> > To: SCONZ.list Forward
> > Subject: RE: [sconz] anyone selling any turbos?

>>> A turbo having a larger than normal exhaust wheel yet the same size
>>> compressor wheel as the CT26 - would this mean that there is room
for
>>> improvement over the CT26?

>> What turbo are you talking about, or are you just dreaming
>> one up at random?

> K26


What a dumb question. You may as well ask whether random car A is
faster random car B based entirely on what air filter they've each
got...





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RE: anyone selling any turbos?   2004-11-29 15:21:00 <Darcy Cresswell>
Being that its a near standard 2000cc motor i'm guessing that I would want
smallish A/R's, and I believe an on-centre exhaust housing would be easier
to connect the exhaust to, can you (or anyone else) suggest some suitable
compressor trims and A/R's etc? It looks as though I can get a new one on
the net for around US$600-800, and would have basically an open choice of
sizes, wheel trims etc.

Cheers, Darcy


----Original Message Follows----
From: "Cully Paterson" <Cully@supras.org.nz>
Reply-To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List" <sconz@list.supras.org.nz>
To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List" <sconz@list.supras.org.nz>
Subject: RE: [sconz] anyone selling any turbos?
Date: Mon, 29 Nov 2004 14:49:25 +1300



> -----Original Message-----
> From: Darcy Cresswell [mailto:dlc702@hotmail.com]
> Subject: RE: [sconz] anyone selling any turbos?
>
> Just out of interest, have you used/fitted the manifold yet?
> I've got one the same or similar (HKS T04-flange cast
> manifold with ext. wastegate for
> 1G) and I'm just wondering where the turbo will sit in
> relation to the standard twins etc. I had been told to try
> and get a T04B, but if anyone has better suggestions for a
> turbo I'm all ears.

It's been on my car for longer than the 7+ years I've owned it. The T04
sits in pretty much the same place as the stock CT26, but I can't vouch
for the 1G set up.

"Get a T04B" is like saying "buy a red car, they're faster". There's
hundreds of different T04B combinations out there, and no two are quite
the same. Having said that, a 'B' frame is a much better idea on a two
litre than an 'E' frame. Pretty much any 'E' will be too big for your
requirements.


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RE: anyone selling any turbos?   2004-11-29 15:23:00 <Cully Paterson>

> True, 'massive' in that if you look at turbos from back in
> that era (the garret on the RX7 turbo springs to mind

You mean the Hitachi HT18? Nothing to do with Garrett. The HT18
suffered from turbine end leakage problems and turbine housing cracking,
but that was an issue of application rather than anything else. Put the
same turbo onto a Skyline (as the HT18 is roughly the same as a T3 rear
end) and the problems go away...


> the ct26 shows as highly reliable WRT it's output.
> For a daily driver IMHO water cooling is a large advantage,
> as it significantly lowers coking in the bearings

Having just talked to the turbo service guys here, the difference as a
rule of thumb between water cooled and non is in the region of a few
percent difference, and the additional carbon generally is not enough to
make any real difference. Carbon build up seems to be much more related
to particular application and engine service.


> I suspect that water cooling makes
> a major difference to the reliability of a 'joe-user' owned
> turbo car that is not pampered.

Granted, hence my comment about warranty periods.


> Water cooling will also significantly lower the bearings
> operational temperature, being as how water has around 4
> times the thermal capacity of oil, and a much better flow rate.

Unlikely. I think you'll find that the operating temperature of the
bearings is very near to the engine sump temperature. The water jacket
around a core is quite a decent distance from the bearings, and
separated by the oiling chamber. The only time the water jacket is near
the bearings is opposite the oil feed through about 6mm of cast iron (in
the case of the CT26). Even then the surface area is only about the
size of a 5c piece, if that.



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RE: anyone selling any turbos?   2004-11-29 15:25:00 <Cully Paterson>


> -----Original Message-----
> From: john@weaversoft.com [mailto:john@weaversoft.com]
> Subject: RE: [sconz] anyone selling any turbos?

> How do you identify a CT26? or how do you Identify a CT20B?

Well, the CT26 has got "CT26" stamped on the compressor cover. I'll
leave the rest to your imagination.


>oh and which one has the bigger cfm flow? (presume ct26?)

In lieu of any real data available, probably the CT20B given it's used
on higher stock horsepower applications than the 26, and is a much later
design.

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RE: anyone selling any turbos?   2004-11-29 15:30:00 <Cully Paterson>


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Hunt M [mailto:5uprah@supras.co.nz]
> Subject: RE: [sconz] anyone selling any turbos?
>
> It was actually a generic question - deeper into it would
> have been - a larger exhaust wheel would mean that a larger
> compressor wheel could be fabricated without worrying about
> reaching the limits of the exhaust wheel?
>
> Compressor wheels of the CT26 and K26 are nearly
> identical....same inner and outer diameter and pretty much
> the same blade design - the compressor housing however on the
> K26 is more restrictive so I'm told yet the hot side is about
> to support up to around 450hp yet the cold side will fall
> way short of that due inlet design of the compressor housing
> and the size of the compressor wheel itself - so I'm told....

Way too much random information there to actually make any useful
comments.

Bear this in mind: What looks 'identical' to the eye may well not be,
and at 100,000+RPM very small differences make very big differences.
Unless you have the compressor maps available to you, then it's time to
get out the temperature probes and start making educated guesses at
what's going on.
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RE: anyone selling any turbos?   2004-11-29 15:32:00 <Cully Paterson>


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Darcy Cresswell [mailto:dlc702@hotmail.com]
> Subject: RE: [sconz] anyone selling any turbos?
>
> Being that its a near standard 2000cc motor i'm guessing that
> I would want smallish A/R's, and I believe an on-centre
> exhaust housing would be easier to connect the exhaust to,

Um, ok. You realise on-centre housings went out with the Ark? The only
one we've got around here we use as a doorstop (really).


> can you (or anyone else) suggest some suitable compressor
> trims and A/R's etc? It looks as though I can get a new one
> on the net for around US$600-800, and would have basically an
> open choice of sizes, wheel trims etc.

I looked into this recently, but not sure if I kept the part numbers.
Mail me at cully@turbo.co.nz and I'll see if I can dig the stuff out
again.

Cully
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RE: anyone selling any turbos?   2004-11-29 15:35:00 <john@...>
ok, so why when I go to places down here,

and inquire about getting my CT20b "hi-flowed" or hybridised,

they always quote for a CT26, once they have looked at the turbo, even though I
specifically tell them its not a CT26 (and by the way their is definately no
CT26 on the compressor cover, in fact the only thing on the compressor cover is
"TOYOTA" thats it.)


is it just that the guys I gone and seen in wellington are morons and shouldnt
be let anywhere near my car regardless, or do the CT20B and CT26 look the
same??




Quoting Cully Paterson <Cully@supras.org.nz>:

>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: john@weaversoft.com [mailto:john@weaversoft.com]
> > Subject: RE: [sconz] anyone selling any turbos?
>
> > How do you identify a CT26? or how do you Identify a CT20B?
>
> Well, the CT26 has got "CT26" stamped on the compressor cover. I'll
> leave the rest to your imagination.
>
>
> >oh and which one has the bigger cfm flow? (presume ct26?)
>
> In lieu of any real data available, probably the CT20B given it's used
> on higher stock horsepower applications than the 26, and is a much later
> design.
>
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RE: anyone selling any turbos?   2004-11-29 15:37:00 <Cully Paterson>


> -----Original Message-----
> From: john@weaversoft.com [mailto:john@weaversoft.com]
> Subject: RE: [sconz] anyone selling any turbos?

> ok, so why when I go to places down here,
> and inquire about getting my CT20b "hi-flowed" or hybridised,
> they always quote for a CT26, once they have looked at the
> turbo, even though I specifically tell them its not a CT26

Outwardly they look quite similar, and the 20B is quite rare compared to
the 26. Fairly natural that they would make a mistake.



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RE: anyone selling any turbos?   2004-11-29 15:37:00 <Doig, Richard>

> is it just that the guys I gone and seen in wellington are morons

Most likely.

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RE: anyone selling any turbos?   2004-11-29 15:37:00 <Doig, Richard>
> > How do you identify a CT26? or how do you Identify a CT20B?
>
> Well, the CT26 has got "CT26" stamped on the compressor cover. I'll
> leave the rest to your imagination.

To make it easier in your search, the CT20B does not have anything written
on the housing. Neither do some CT26 turbos for that matter. And remember, a
CT20 is different to a CT20B.

Confused? :-)

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RE: anyone selling any turbos?   2004-11-29 15:38:00 <Doig, Richard>
> and inquire about getting my CT20b "hi-flowed" or hybridised,

Not recommended, as the shaft is too slender (compared to CT26).

Refer to some CT20B measurements here:

http://gtfour.supras.org.nz/Turbo%20photos.htm

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Re: anyone selling any turbos?   2004-11-29 15:40:00 <qzm>
On Mon, 29 Nov 2004 15:22:50 +1300, Cully Paterson <cully@supras.org.nz> wrote:
> > True, 'massive' in that if you look at turbos from back in
> > that era (the garret on the RX7 turbo springs to mind
> You mean the Hitachi HT18? Nothing to do with Garrett. The HT18
> suffered from turbine end leakage problems and turbine housing cracking,
> but that was an issue of application rather than anything else. Put the
> same turbo onto a Skyline (as the HT18 is roughly the same as a T3 rear
> end) and the problems go away...

Hmmm, back in my time I helped change garret turbos on 3 turbo rx7's
(the old turbo rx7s, not the newer ones), which seems very strange...

> Unlikely. I think you'll find that the operating temperature of the
> bearings is very near to the engine sump temperature. The water jacket
> around a core is quite a decent distance from the bearings, and
> separated by the oiling chamber. The only time the water jacket is near
> the bearings is opposite the oil feed through about 6mm of cast iron (in
> the case of the CT26). Even then the surface area is only about the
> size of a 5c piece, if that.

The water jacket is mainly between the exhaust housing and the bearing
housing, to stop heat flow through this area, which is the main cause
of core heating, would you not say? (the other source being conduction
down the actual shaft), so the water jacket lowers significantly the
heat geting to the oil+bearings, rather than directly cooling the
bearings, which will produce little heat of their own.

Regards,
Stuart W.
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RE: anyone selling any turbos?   2004-11-29 15:43:00 <Cully Paterson>


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Doig, Richard [mailto:Richard.Doig@airnz.co.nz]
> Subject: RE: [sconz] anyone selling any turbos?
>
> > and inquire about getting my CT20b "hi-flowed" or hybridised,
>
> Not recommended, as the shaft is too slender (compared to CT26).
>
> Refer to some CT20B measurements here:
>
> http://gtfour.supras.org.nz/Turbo%20photos.htm


Must be a funny ruler you were using. The 20B and 26 shafts are
identical diameters (6.5mm and 10mm).


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RE: anyone selling any turbos?   2004-11-29 15:54:00 <Cully Paterson>


> -----Original Message-----
> From: qzm [mailto:stuartaw@gmail.com]
> Subject: Re: [sconz] anyone selling any turbos?

> Hmmm, back in my time I helped change garret turbos on 3
> turbo rx7's (the old turbo rx7s, not the newer ones), which
> seems very strange...

They weren't original then. T3/T4 hybrid replacements are quite common
on RX7s, as was replacing just the compressor end and using a T4
compressor cover.


> The water jacket is mainly between the exhaust housing and
> the bearing housing, to stop heat flow through this area,
> which is the main cause of core heating, would you not say?

The water jacket is on the top of the bearing housing, the exhaust
manifold beside and below. There's some overlap, but not much, as the
water jacket doesn't extend below the level of the feed by any more than
about 2mm or ~5-10ml worth of water.

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RE: anyone selling any turbos?   2004-11-29 16:11:00 <john@...>
Thanks.

how can you tell the difference between a CT20B(c) and a CT20?

Quoting "Doig, Richard" <Richard.Doig@airnz.co.nz>:

> > > How do you identify a CT26? or how do you Identify a CT20B?
> >
> > Well, the CT26 has got "CT26" stamped on the compressor cover. I'll
> > leave the rest to your imagination.
>
> To make it easier in your search, the CT20B does not have anything written
> on the housing. Neither do some CT26 turbos for that matter. And remember, a
> CT20 is different to a CT20B.
>
> Confused? :-)
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RE: anyone selling any turbos?   2004-11-29 16:18:00 <Doig, Richard>
Easiest way:

7M-GTE CT26 4 bolt flange for turbine downpipe.
3S-GTE CT26 6 bolt flange for turbine downpipe.
3S-GTE CT20B 7 bolt flange for turbine downpipe.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: bounce-38597-27@list.supras.org.nz [mailto:bounce-38597-
> 27@list.supras.org.nz] On Behalf Of john@weaversoft.com
> Sent: Monday, 29 November 2004 4:11 p.m.
> To: Supra Club of NZ Mailing List
> Subject: RE: [sconz] anyone selling any turbos?
>
> Thanks.
>
> how can you tell the difference between a CT20B(c) and a CT20?
>
> Quoting "Doig, Richard" <Richard.Doig@airnz.co.nz>:
>
> > > > How do you identify a CT26? or how do you Identify a CT20B?
> > >
> > > Well, the CT26 has got "CT26" stamped on the compressor cover. I'll
> > > leave the rest to your imagination.
> >
> > To make it easier in your search, the CT20B does not have anything
> written
> > on the housing. Neither do some CT26 turbos for that matter. And
> remember, a
> > CT20 is different to a CT20B.
> >
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RE: anyone selling any turbos?   2004-11-29 16:19:00 <Cully Paterson>


> -----Original Message-----
> From: john@weaversoft.com [mailto:john@weaversoft.com]
> Subject: RE: [sconz] anyone selling any turbos?

> how can you tell the difference between a CT20B(c) and a CT20?

CT20 is:
- Significantly smaller in all regards
- Steel turbine shaft
- Four bolt turbine housing flange
- Some of them lack water cooling
- Usually attached to piece of crap engines or left lying on the ground
somewhere as they're worthless.


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Re: anyone selling any turbos?   2004-11-29 19:14:00 <Suze>
are you still running the stock plumbing and intercooler Cully?


On Mon, 29 Nov 2004 14:12:19 +1300, Cully Paterson <cully@supras.org.nz> wrote:
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Hunt M [mailto:5uprah@supras.co.nz]
> > Subject: RE: [sconz] anyone selling any turbos?
> >
> > And it's the manifold that causing the restriction and not
> > allowing you to hold higher boost or the turbo or both?
> > What do you think you can do to overcome it?
>
> It's a manifold designed for a T04, but I'm running a sandwich-plated T3
> on it. With the heavier T04 wheel it behaves fine, but it hasn't done
> the business with the GT30 strapped to it. My solution is to build a
> better one.
>
>
>
>
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RE: anyone selling any turbos?   2004-11-29 19:21:00 <Cully Paterson>
Have been, but it won't be when it's back on the road.


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Suze [mailto:suprra@gmail.com]
> Sent: Monday, 29 November 2004 7:14 p.m.
> To: SCONZ.list Forward
> Subject: Re: [sconz] anyone selling any turbos?
>
> are you still running the stock plumbing and intercooler Cully?
>
>
> On Mon, 29 Nov 2004 14:12:19 +1300, Cully Paterson
> <cully@supras.org.nz> wrote:
> >
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Hunt M [mailto:5uprah@supras.co.nz]
> > > Subject: RE: [sconz] anyone selling any turbos?
> > >
> > > And it's the manifold that causing the restriction and
> not allowing
> > > you to hold higher boost or the turbo or both?
> > > What do you think you can do to overcome it?
> >
> > It's a manifold designed for a T04, but I'm running a
> sandwich-plated
> > T3 on it. With the heavier T04 wheel it behaves fine, but
> it hasn't
> > done the business with the GT30 strapped to it. My solution is to
> > build a better one.
> >
> >
> >
> >
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>
>
> --
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>
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Re: anyone selling any turbos?   2004-11-29 20:43:00 <Suze>
figured as much... well once those squeegies are off i'm sure that
gt35 will have more fun ;)
once u got the new plumbing you gotta redyno and see what its got ;)


On Mon, 29 Nov 2004 19:20:39 +1300, Cully Paterson <cully@supras.org.nz> wrote:
> Have been, but it won't be when it's back on the road.
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Suze [mailto:suprra@gmail.com]
> > Sent: Monday, 29 November 2004 7:14 p.m.
> > To: SCONZ.list Forward
> > Subject: Re: [sconz] anyone selling any turbos?
> >
> > are you still running the stock plumbing and intercooler Cully?
> >
> >
> > On Mon, 29 Nov 2004 14:12:19 +1300, Cully Paterson
> > <cully@supras.org.nz> wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: Hunt M [mailto:5uprah@supras.co.nz]
> > > > Subject: RE: [sconz] anyone selling any turbos?
> > > >
> > > > And it's the manifold that causing the restriction and
> > not allowing
> > > > you to hold higher boost or the turbo or both?
> > > > What do you think you can do to overcome it?
> > >
> > > It's a manifold designed for a T04, but I'm running a
> > sandwich-plated
> > > T3 on it. With the heavier T04 wheel it behaves fine, but
> > it hasn't
> > > done the business with the GT30 strapped to it. My solution is to
> > > build a better one.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ---
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> > >
> >
> >
> > --
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> >
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RE: anyone selling any turbos?   2004-11-29 20:45:00 <Cully Paterson>


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Suze [mailto:suprra@gmail.com]
> Sent: Monday, 29 November 2004 8:43 p.m.
> To: SCONZ.list Forward
> Subject: Re: [sconz] anyone selling any turbos?
>
> figured as much... well once those squeegies are off i'm sure that
> gt35 will have more fun ;)
> once u got the new plumbing you gotta redyno and see what its got ;)


GT30, not 35.




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Re: anyone selling any turbos?   2004-11-29 23:28:00 <Suze>
oh sorry my mistake!


On Mon, 29 Nov 2004 20:44:48 +1300, Cully Paterson <cully@supras.org.nz> wrote:
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Suze [mailto:suprra@gmail.com]
> > Sent: Monday, 29 November 2004 8:43 p.m.
> > To: SCONZ.list Forward
> > Subject: Re: [sconz] anyone selling any turbos?
> >
> > figured as much... well once those squeegies are off i'm sure that
> > gt35 will have more fun ;)
> > once u got the new plumbing you gotta redyno and see what its got ;)
>
> GT30, not 35.
>
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Re: anyone selling any turbos?   2004-11-29 23:59:00 <Dave Thom>
Umm... ok... I know that different turbo = different efficiency and
different torque curve etc... but my car made 157rwkw with standard turbos
at a dyno read 13psi... so I don't see why you would go to a CT26? Also
there is no way in hell my car chirps the rears going into 3rd... hell it
doesn't even do it going into 2nd...

Is there something I"m missing here?

Regards

Dave Thom
IT Engineer
029 5666643
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From: "Cully Paterson" <Cully@supras.org.nz>
To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List" <sconz@list.supras.org.nz>
Sent: Monday, November 29, 2004 1:24 PM
Subject: RE: [sconz] anyone selling any turbos?




> -----Original Message-----
> From: Hunt M [mailto:5uprah@supras.co.nz]
> Subject: RE: [sconz] anyone selling any turbos?
>
> Has anyone actually put a CT26 on a 1G with a good result?
> i.e. over 190-200rwkw?
> I remember someone made some homemade manifold set up and got
> like 150-160rwkw at like 14psi or something, but that was
> with a not so pretty manifold - pile of poo could be the best
> words to describe it?


Well your memory isn't entirely crap:
http://www.supras.org.nz/members/memberdetail.php?member=Robbi_Wright

On the road he was making a lot more boost than he could crank on the
dyno, and was genuinely a very quick car.



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RE: anyone selling any turbos?   2004-11-30 02:17:00 <Hunt M>
Dave - have you got an exhaust and air filter? Have you got a front mount
intercooler or a "soap box" like I had with my twins?

-----Original Message-----
From: bounce-38621-72@list.supras.org.nz
[mailto:bounce-38621-72@list.supras.org.nz] On Behalf Of Dave Thom
Sent: Monday, November 29, 2004 11:59 PM
To: Supra Club of NZ Mailing List
Subject: Re: [sconz] anyone selling any turbos?

Umm... ok... I know that different turbo = different efficiency and
different torque curve etc... but my car made 157rwkw with standard turbos
at a dyno read 13psi... so I don't see why you would go to a CT26? Also
there is no way in hell my car chirps the rears going into 3rd... hell it
doesn't even do it going into 2nd...

Is there something I"m missing here?

Regards

Dave Thom
IT Engineer
029 5666643
----- Original Message -----
From: "Cully Paterson" <Cully@supras.org.nz>
To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List" <sconz@list.supras.org.nz>
Sent: Monday, November 29, 2004 1:24 PM
Subject: RE: [sconz] anyone selling any turbos?




> -----Original Message-----
> From: Hunt M [mailto:5uprah@supras.co.nz]
> Subject: RE: [sconz] anyone selling any turbos?
>
> Has anyone actually put a CT26 on a 1G with a good result?
> i.e. over 190-200rwkw?
> I remember someone made some homemade manifold set up and got
> like 150-160rwkw at like 14psi or something, but that was
> with a not so pretty manifold - pile of poo could be the best
> words to describe it?


Well your memory isn't entirely crap:
http://www.supras.org.nz/members/memberdetail.php?member=Robbi_Wright

On the road he was making a lot more boost than he could crank on the
dyno, and was genuinely a very quick car.



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Re: anyone selling any turbos?   2004-11-30 02:21:00 <Dave Thom>
Umm... Hunt you saw my car run... It has an old second hand 3" supra exhaust
with 2 mufflers, 3" pipe replacing cat, no filter, standard factory 1g front
mount, and bleed/needle valve setup as documented on supras site... wtf is a
soap box? :)

Regards

Dave Thom
IT Engineer
029 5666643
----- Original Message -----
From: "Hunt M" <5uprah@supras.co.nz>
To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List" <sconz@list.supras.org.nz>
Sent: Tuesday, November 30, 2004 2:17 AM
Subject: RE: [sconz] anyone selling any turbos?


> Dave - have you got an exhaust and air filter? Have you got a front mount
> intercooler or a "soap box" like I had with my twins?
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: bounce-38621-72@list.supras.org.nz
> [mailto:bounce-38621-72@list.supras.org.nz] On Behalf Of Dave Thom
> Sent: Monday, November 29, 2004 11:59 PM
> To: Supra Club of NZ Mailing List
> Subject: Re: [sconz] anyone selling any turbos?
>
> Umm... ok... I know that different turbo = different efficiency and
> different torque curve etc... but my car made 157rwkw with standard turbos
> at a dyno read 13psi... so I don't see why you would go to a CT26? Also
> there is no way in hell my car chirps the rears going into 3rd... hell it
> doesn't even do it going into 2nd...
>
> Is there something I"m missing here?
>
> Regards
>
> Dave Thom
> IT Engineer
> 029 5666643
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Cully Paterson" <Cully@supras.org.nz>
> To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List" <sconz@list.supras.org.nz>
> Sent: Monday, November 29, 2004 1:24 PM
> Subject: RE: [sconz] anyone selling any turbos?
>
>
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Hunt M [mailto:5uprah@supras.co.nz]
> > Subject: RE: [sconz] anyone selling any turbos?
> >
> > Has anyone actually put a CT26 on a 1G with a good result?
> > i.e. over 190-200rwkw?
> > I remember someone made some homemade manifold set up and got
> > like 150-160rwkw at like 14psi or something, but that was
> > with a not so pretty manifold - pile of poo could be the best
> > words to describe it?
>
>
> Well your memory isn't entirely crap:
> http://www.supras.org.nz/members/memberdetail.php?member=Robbi_Wright
>
> On the road he was making a lot more boost than he could crank on the
> dyno, and was genuinely a very quick car.
>
>
>
> ---
> Supra Club of New Zealand - http://www.supras.org.nz/
> Website sponsored by Alltech Diesel & Turbocharger http://www.turbo.co.nz
>
>
>
>
> ---
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> Website sponsored by Alltech Diesel & Turbocharger http://www.turbo.co.nz
>
>
> ---
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>


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RE: anyone selling any turbos?   2004-11-30 02:26:00 <Hunt M>
Soap box is what some ppl - not mentioning names here- SUZE!!! - called my
top mount water to air intercooler that came with my engine (out of a
Cresta) that acted more like an inter-heater! - Still managed to get me
159rwkw on around 12psi - maybe just under - however I did have a 2.5 inch
exhaust and pod filter...

Hunt

-----Original Message-----
From: bounce-38640-72@list.supras.org.nz
[mailto:bounce-38640-72@list.supras.org.nz] On Behalf Of Dave Thom
Sent: Tuesday, November 30, 2004 2:21 AM
To: Supra Club of NZ Mailing List
Subject: Re: [sconz] anyone selling any turbos?

Umm... Hunt you saw my car run... It has an old second hand 3" supra exhaust
with 2 mufflers, 3" pipe replacing cat, no filter, standard factory 1g front
mount, and bleed/needle valve setup as documented on supras site... wtf is a
soap box? :)

Regards

Dave Thom
IT Engineer
029 5666643
----- Original Message -----
From: "Hunt M" <5uprah@supras.co.nz>
To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List" <sconz@list.supras.org.nz>
Sent: Tuesday, November 30, 2004 2:17 AM
Subject: RE: [sconz] anyone selling any turbos?


> Dave - have you got an exhaust and air filter? Have you got a front mount
> intercooler or a "soap box" like I had with my twins?
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: bounce-38621-72@list.supras.org.nz
> [mailto:bounce-38621-72@list.supras.org.nz] On Behalf Of Dave Thom
> Sent: Monday, November 29, 2004 11:59 PM
> To: Supra Club of NZ Mailing List
> Subject: Re: [sconz] anyone selling any turbos?
>
> Umm... ok... I know that different turbo = different efficiency and
> different torque curve etc... but my car made 157rwkw with standard turbos
> at a dyno read 13psi... so I don't see why you would go to a CT26? Also
> there is no way in hell my car chirps the rears going into 3rd... hell it
> doesn't even do it going into 2nd...
>
> Is there something I"m missing here?
>
> Regards
>
> Dave Thom
> IT Engineer
> 029 5666643
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Cully Paterson" <Cully@supras.org.nz>
> To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List" <sconz@list.supras.org.nz>
> Sent: Monday, November 29, 2004 1:24 PM
> Subject: RE: [sconz] anyone selling any turbos?
>
>
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Hunt M [mailto:5uprah@supras.co.nz]
> > Subject: RE: [sconz] anyone selling any turbos?
> >
> > Has anyone actually put a CT26 on a 1G with a good result?
> > i.e. over 190-200rwkw?
> > I remember someone made some homemade manifold set up and got
> > like 150-160rwkw at like 14psi or something, but that was
> > with a not so pretty manifold - pile of poo could be the best
> > words to describe it?
>
>
> Well your memory isn't entirely crap:
> http://www.supras.org.nz/members/memberdetail.php?member=Robbi_Wright
>
> On the road he was making a lot more boost than he could crank on the
> dyno, and was genuinely a very quick car.
>
>
>
> ---
> Supra Club of New Zealand - http://www.supras.org.nz/
> Website sponsored by Alltech Diesel & Turbocharger http://www.turbo.co.nz
>
>
>
>
> ---
> Supra Club of New Zealand - http://www.supras.org.nz/
> Website sponsored by Alltech Diesel & Turbocharger http://www.turbo.co.nz
>
>
> ---
> Supra Club of New Zealand - http://www.supras.org.nz/
> Website sponsored by Alltech Diesel & Turbocharger http://www.turbo.co.nz
>
>



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RE: anyone selling any turbos?   2004-11-30 10:50:00 <Cully Paterson>
Those original results were before Torque Performances dyno took it's
mysterious 'upward plunge' that suddenly gave everyone more power.... I
wouldn't take anything from the figures.


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Dave Thom [mailto:supras@boost.org.nz]
> Sent: Monday, 29 November 2004 11:59 p.m.
> To: SCONZ.list Forward
> Subject: Re: [sconz] anyone selling any turbos?
>
> Umm... ok... I know that different turbo = different
> efficiency and different torque curve etc... but my car made
> 157rwkw with standard turbos at a dyno read 13psi... so I
> don't see why you would go to a CT26? Also there is no way
> in hell my car chirps the rears going into 3rd... hell it
> doesn't even do it going into 2nd...
>
> Is there something I"m missing here?
>
> Regards
>
> Dave Thom
> IT Engineer
> 029 5666643
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Cully Paterson" <Cully@supras.org.nz>
> To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List" <sconz@list.supras.org.nz>
> Sent: Monday, November 29, 2004 1:24 PM
> Subject: RE: [sconz] anyone selling any turbos?
>
>
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Hunt M [mailto:5uprah@supras.co.nz]
> > Subject: RE: [sconz] anyone selling any turbos?
> >
> > Has anyone actually put a CT26 on a 1G with a good result?
> > i.e. over 190-200rwkw?
> > I remember someone made some homemade manifold set up and got
> > like 150-160rwkw at like 14psi or something, but that was
> > with a not so pretty manifold - pile of poo could be the best
> > words to describe it?
>
>
> Well your memory isn't entirely crap:
> http://www.supras.org.nz/members/memberdetail.php?member=Robbi_Wright
>
> On the road he was making a lot more boost than he could crank on the
> dyno, and was genuinely a very quick car.
>
>
>
> ---
> Supra Club of New Zealand - http://www.supras.org.nz/
> Website sponsored by Alltech Diesel & Turbocharger
> http://www.turbo.co.nz
>
>
>
>
> ---
> Supra Club of New Zealand - http://www.supras.org.nz/
> Website sponsored by Alltech Diesel & Turbocharger
> http://www.turbo.co.nz
>
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RE: anyone selling any turbos?   2004-11-30 10:55:00 <Hunt M>
Well I got 159rwkw @ 12 psi and I could drift it if thrown into 2nd and
chirp going into 3rd...if my 159rwkw dyno figure was a result of this
'upward plunge' as you so eloquently put it - I would hate to see what a
real 159rwkw feels like....

-----Original Message-----
From: bounce-38642-72@list.supras.org.nz
[mailto:bounce-38642-72@list.supras.org.nz] On Behalf Of Cully Paterson
Sent: Tuesday, November 30, 2004 10:50 AM
To: Supra Club of NZ Mailing List
Subject: RE: [sconz] anyone selling any turbos?

Those original results were before Torque Performances dyno took it's
mysterious 'upward plunge' that suddenly gave everyone more power.... I
wouldn't take anything from the figures.


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Dave Thom [mailto:supras@boost.org.nz]
> Sent: Monday, 29 November 2004 11:59 p.m.
> To: SCONZ.list Forward
> Subject: Re: [sconz] anyone selling any turbos?
>
> Umm... ok... I know that different turbo = different
> efficiency and different torque curve etc... but my car made
> 157rwkw with standard turbos at a dyno read 13psi... so I
> don't see why you would go to a CT26? Also there is no way
> in hell my car chirps the rears going into 3rd... hell it
> doesn't even do it going into 2nd...
>
> Is there something I"m missing here?
>
> Regards
>
> Dave Thom
> IT Engineer
> 029 5666643
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Cully Paterson" <Cully@supras.org.nz>
> To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List" <sconz@list.supras.org.nz>
> Sent: Monday, November 29, 2004 1:24 PM
> Subject: RE: [sconz] anyone selling any turbos?
>
>
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Hunt M [mailto:5uprah@supras.co.nz]
> > Subject: RE: [sconz] anyone selling any turbos?
> >
> > Has anyone actually put a CT26 on a 1G with a good result?
> > i.e. over 190-200rwkw?
> > I remember someone made some homemade manifold set up and got
> > like 150-160rwkw at like 14psi or something, but that was
> > with a not so pretty manifold - pile of poo could be the best
> > words to describe it?
>
>
> Well your memory isn't entirely crap:
> http://www.supras.org.nz/members/memberdetail.php?member=Robbi_Wright
>
> On the road he was making a lot more boost than he could crank on the
> dyno, and was genuinely a very quick car.
>
>
>
> ---
> Supra Club of New Zealand - http://www.supras.org.nz/
> Website sponsored by Alltech Diesel & Turbocharger
> http://www.turbo.co.nz
>
>
>
>
> ---
> Supra Club of New Zealand - http://www.supras.org.nz/
> Website sponsored by Alltech Diesel & Turbocharger
> http://www.turbo.co.nz
>

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RE: anyone selling any turbos?   2004-11-30 11:18:00 <john shannon>

wrong i have put my car on 3 dynos in one week beyond moter sport and rpm and torque peformance and geuss what thay all said the same thing between 298kw and 304kws so  thay are all out ?

>From: "Cully Paterson" <Cully@supras.org.nz>
>Reply-To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List" <sconz@list.supras.org.nz>
>To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List" <sconz@list.supras.org.nz>
>Subject: RE: [sconz] anyone selling any turbos?
>Date: Tue, 30 Nov 2004 10:49:50 +1300
>
>Those original results were before Torque Performances dyno took it's
>mysterious 'upward plunge' that suddenly gave everyone more power....  I
>wouldn't take anything from the figures.
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Dave Thom [mailto:supras@boost.org.nz]
> > Sent: Monday, 29 November 2004 11:59 p.m.
> > To: SCONZ.list Forward
> > Subject: Re: [sconz] anyone selling any turbos?
> >
> > Umm... ok... I know that different turbo = different
> > efficiency and different torque curve etc... but my car made
> > 157rwkw with standard turbos at a dyno read 13psi... so I
> > don't see why you would go to a CT26?  Also there is no way
> > in hell my car chirps the rears going into 3rd... hell it
> > doesn't even do it going into 2nd...
> >
> > Is there something I"m missing here?
> >
> > Regards
> >
> > Dave Thom
> > IT Engineer
> > 029 5666643
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Cully Paterson" <Cully@supras.org.nz>
> > To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List" <sconz@list.supras.org.nz>
> > Sent: Monday, November 29, 2004 1:24 PM
> > Subject: RE: [sconz] anyone selling any turbos?
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Hunt M [mailto:5uprah@supras.co.nz]
> > > Subject: RE: [sconz] anyone selling any turbos?
> > >
> > > Has anyone actually put a CT26 on a 1G with a good result?
> > > i.e. over 190-200rwkw?
> > > I remember someone made some homemade manifold set up and got
> > > like 150-160rwkw at like 14psi or something, but that was
> > > with a not so pretty manifold - pile of poo could be the best
> > > words to describe it?
> >
> >
> > Well your memory isn't entirely crap:
> > http://www.supras.org.nz/members/memberdetail.php?member=Robbi_Wright
> >
> > On the road he was making a lot more boost than he could crank on the
> > dyno, and was genuinely a very quick car.
> >
> >
> >
> > ---
> > Supra Club of New Zealand - http://www.supras.org.nz/
> > Website sponsored by Alltech Diesel & Turbocharger
> > http://www.turbo.co.nz
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ---
> > Supra Club of New Zealand - http://www.supras.org.nz/
> > Website sponsored by Alltech Diesel & Turbocharger
> > http://www.turbo.co.nz
> >
>
>---
>Supra Club of New Zealand - http://www.supras.org.nz/
>Website sponsored by Alltech Diesel & Turbocharger http://www.turbo.co.nz


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RE: anyone selling any turbos?   2004-11-30 11:20:00 <Doig, Richard>
But we already know you have crap traction and tyres...

> -----Original Message-----
> From: bounce-38643-27@list.supras.org.nz [mailto:bounce-38643-
> 27@list.supras.org.nz] On Behalf Of Hunt M
> Sent: Tuesday, 30 November 2004 10:55 a.m.
> To: Supra Club of NZ Mailing List
> Subject: RE: [sconz] anyone selling any turbos?
>
> Well I got 159rwkw @ 12 psi and I could drift it if thrown into 2nd and
> chirp going into 3rd...if my 159rwkw dyno figure was a result of this
> 'upward plunge' as you so eloquently put it - I would hate to see what a
> real 159rwkw feels like....
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: bounce-38642-72@list.supras.org.nz
> [mailto:bounce-38642-72@list.supras.org.nz] On Behalf Of Cully Paterson
> Sent: Tuesday, November 30, 2004 10:50 AM
> To: Supra Club of NZ Mailing List
> Subject: RE: [sconz] anyone selling any turbos?
>
> Those original results were before Torque Performances dyno took it's
> mysterious 'upward plunge' that suddenly gave everyone more power.... I
> wouldn't take anything from the figures.
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Dave Thom [mailto:supras@boost.org.nz]
> > Sent: Monday, 29 November 2004 11:59 p.m.
> > To: SCONZ.list Forward
> > Subject: Re: [sconz] anyone selling any turbos?
> >
> > Umm... ok... I know that different turbo = different
> > efficiency and different torque curve etc... but my car made
> > 157rwkw with standard turbos at a dyno read 13psi... so I
> > don't see why you would go to a CT26? Also there is no way
> > in hell my car chirps the rears going into 3rd... hell it
> > doesn't even do it going into 2nd...
> >
> > Is there something I"m missing here?
> >
> > Regards
> >
> > Dave Thom
> > IT Engineer
> > 029 5666643
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Cully Paterson" <Cully@supras.org.nz>
> > To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List" <sconz@list.supras.org.nz>
> > Sent: Monday, November 29, 2004 1:24 PM
> > Subject: RE: [sconz] anyone selling any turbos?
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Hunt M [mailto:5uprah@supras.co.nz]
> > > Subject: RE: [sconz] anyone selling any turbos?
> > >
> > > Has anyone actually put a CT26 on a 1G with a good result?
> > > i.e. over 190-200rwkw?
> > > I remember someone made some homemade manifold set up and got
> > > like 150-160rwkw at like 14psi or something, but that was
> > > with a not so pretty manifold - pile of poo could be the best
> > > words to describe it?
> >
> >
> > Well your memory isn't entirely crap:
> > http://www.supras.org.nz/members/memberdetail.php?member=Robbi_Wright
> >
> > On the road he was making a lot more boost than he could crank on the
> > dyno, and was genuinely a very quick car.
> >
> >
> >
> > ---
> > Supra Club of New Zealand - http://www.supras.org.nz/
> > Website sponsored by Alltech Diesel & Turbocharger
> > http://www.turbo.co.nz
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ---
> > Supra Club of New Zealand - http://www.supras.org.nz/
> > Website sponsored by Alltech Diesel & Turbocharger
> > http://www.turbo.co.nz
> >
>
> ---
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>
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RE: anyone selling any turbos?   2004-11-30 11:22:00 <Cully Paterson>
This was three years ago, and only relates to TP's dyno. There was a
sudden jump up in everyone's power output not long after we ran the
SCONZ dyno day there. If you look at the performance car dyno day
figures around that time they all suddenly get a lot better...



_____

From: john shannon [mailto:jshannon55@hotmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, 30 November 2004 11:17 a.m.
To: SCONZ.list Forward
Subject: RE: [sconz] anyone selling any turbos?



wrong i have put my car on 3 dynos in one week beyond moter
sport and rpm and torque peformance and geuss what thay all said the
same thing between 298kw and 304kws so thay are all out ?



>From: "Cully Paterson" <Cully@supras.org.nz>
>Reply-To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List"
<sconz@list.supras.org.nz>
>To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List" <sconz@list.supras.org.nz>
>Subject: RE: [sconz] anyone selling any turbos?
>Date: Tue, 30 Nov 2004 10:49:50 +1300
>
>Those original results were before Torque Performances dyno
took it's
>mysterious 'upward plunge' that suddenly gave everyone more
power.... I
>wouldn't take anything from the figures.
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Dave Thom [mailto:supras@boost.org.nz]
> > Sent: Monday, 29 November 2004 11:59 p.m.
> > To: SCONZ.list Forward
> > Subject: Re: [sconz] anyone selling any turbos?
> >
> > Umm... ok... I know that different turbo = different
> > efficiency and different torque curve etc... but my car made

> > 157rwkw with standard turbos at a dyno read 13psi... so I
> > don't see why you would go to a CT26? Also there is no way
> > in hell my car chirps the rears going into 3rd... hell it
> > doesn't even do it going into 2nd...
> >
> > Is there something I"m missing here?
> >
> > Regards
> >
> > Dave Thom
> > IT Engineer
> > 029 5666643
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Cully Paterson" <Cully@supras.org.nz>
> > To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List"
<sconz@list.supras.org.nz>
> > Sent: Monday, November 29, 2004 1:24 PM
> > Subject: RE: [sconz] anyone selling any turbos?
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Hunt M [mailto:5uprah@supras.co.nz]
> > > Subject: RE: [sconz] anyone selling any turbos?
> > >
> > > Has anyone actually put a CT26 on a 1G with a good result?

> > > i.e. over 190-200rwkw?
> > > I remember someone made some homemade manifold set up and
got
> > > like 150-160rwkw at like 14psi or something, but that was
> > > with a not so pretty manifold - pile of poo could be the
best
> > > words to describe it?
> >
> >
> > Well your memory isn't entirely crap:
> >
http://www.supras.org.nz/members/memberdetail.php?member=Robbi_Wright
> >
> > On the road he was making a lot more boost than he could
crank on the
> > dyno, and was genuinely a very quick car.
> >
> >
> >
> > ---
> > Supra Club of New Zealand - http://www.supras.org.nz/
> > Website sponsored by Alltech Diesel & Turbocharger
> > http://www.turbo.co.nz
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ---
> > Supra Club of New Zealand - http://www.supras.org.nz/
> > Website sponsored by Alltech Diesel & Turbocharger
> > http://www.turbo.co.nz
> >
>
>---
>Supra Club of New Zealand - http://www.supras.org.nz/
>Website sponsored by Alltech Diesel & Turbocharger
http://www.turbo.co.nz

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RE: anyone selling any turbos?   2004-11-30 11:26:00 <Hunt M>
You point taken - yet mine still remains...

-----Original Message-----
From: bounce-38645-72@list.supras.org.nz
[mailto:bounce-38645-72@list.supras.org.nz] On Behalf Of Doig, Richard
Sent: Tuesday, November 30, 2004 11:20 AM
To: Supra Club of NZ Mailing List
Subject: RE: [sconz] anyone selling any turbos?

But we already know you have crap traction and tyres...

> -----Original Message-----
> From: bounce-38643-27@list.supras.org.nz [mailto:bounce-38643-
> 27@list.supras.org.nz] On Behalf Of Hunt M
> Sent: Tuesday, 30 November 2004 10:55 a.m.
> To: Supra Club of NZ Mailing List
> Subject: RE: [sconz] anyone selling any turbos?
>
> Well I got 159rwkw @ 12 psi and I could drift it if thrown into 2nd and
> chirp going into 3rd...if my 159rwkw dyno figure was a result of this
> 'upward plunge' as you so eloquently put it - I would hate to see what a
> real 159rwkw feels like....
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: bounce-38642-72@list.supras.org.nz
> [mailto:bounce-38642-72@list.supras.org.nz] On Behalf Of Cully Paterson
> Sent: Tuesday, November 30, 2004 10:50 AM
> To: Supra Club of NZ Mailing List
> Subject: RE: [sconz] anyone selling any turbos?
>
> Those original results were before Torque Performances dyno took it's
> mysterious 'upward plunge' that suddenly gave everyone more power.... I
> wouldn't take anything from the figures.
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Dave Thom [mailto:supras@boost.org.nz]
> > Sent: Monday, 29 November 2004 11:59 p.m.
> > To: SCONZ.list Forward
> > Subject: Re: [sconz] anyone selling any turbos?
> >
> > Umm... ok... I know that different turbo = different
> > efficiency and different torque curve etc... but my car made
> > 157rwkw with standard turbos at a dyno read 13psi... so I
> > don't see why you would go to a CT26? Also there is no way
> > in hell my car chirps the rears going into 3rd... hell it
> > doesn't even do it going into 2nd...
> >
> > Is there something I"m missing here?
> >
> > Regards
> >
> > Dave Thom
> > IT Engineer
> > 029 5666643
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Cully Paterson" <Cully@supras.org.nz>
> > To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List" <sconz@list.supras.org.nz>
> > Sent: Monday, November 29, 2004 1:24 PM
> > Subject: RE: [sconz] anyone selling any turbos?
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Hunt M [mailto:5uprah@supras.co.nz]
> > > Subject: RE: [sconz] anyone selling any turbos?
> > >
> > > Has anyone actually put a CT26 on a 1G with a good result?
> > > i.e. over 190-200rwkw?
> > > I remember someone made some homemade manifold set up and got
> > > like 150-160rwkw at like 14psi or something, but that was
> > > with a not so pretty manifold - pile of poo could be the best
> > > words to describe it?
> >
> >
> > Well your memory isn't entirely crap:
> > http://www.supras.org.nz/members/memberdetail.php?member=Robbi_Wright
> >
> > On the road he was making a lot more boost than he could crank on the
> > dyno, and was genuinely a very quick car.
> >
> >
> >
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RE: anyone selling any turbos?   2004-11-30 11:27:00 <Hunt M>
Did this jump in power output last or was it a once off thing that was
around for a month or two?



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From: bounce-38646-72@list.supras.org.nz
[mailto:bounce-38646-72@list.supras.org.nz] On Behalf Of Cully Paterson
Sent: Tuesday, November 30, 2004 11:22 AM
To: Supra Club of NZ Mailing List
Subject: RE: [sconz] anyone selling any turbos?



This was three years ago, and only relates to TP's dyno. There was a sudden
jump up in everyone's power output not long after we ran the SCONZ dyno day
there. If you look at the performance car dyno day figures around that time
they all suddenly get a lot better...






_____


From: john shannon [mailto:jshannon55@hotmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, 30 November 2004 11:17 a.m.
To: SCONZ.list Forward
Subject: RE: [sconz] anyone selling any turbos?

wrong i have put my car on 3 dynos in one week beyond moter sport and rpm
and torque peformance and geuss what thay all said the same thing between
298kw and 304kws so thay are all out ?

>From: "Cully Paterson" <Cully@supras.org.nz>

>Reply-To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List" <sconz@list.supras.org.nz>

>To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List" <sconz@list.supras.org.nz>

>Subject: RE: [sconz] anyone selling any turbos?

>Date: Tue, 30 Nov 2004 10:49:50 +1300

>

>Those original results were before Torque Performances dyno took it's

>mysterious 'upward plunge' that suddenly gave everyone more power.... I

>wouldn't take anything from the figures.

>

>

> > -----Original Message-----

> > From: Dave Thom [mailto:supras@boost.org.nz]

> > Sent: Monday, 29 November 2004 11:59 p.m.

> > To: SCONZ.list Forward

> > Subject: Re: [sconz] anyone selling any turbos?

> >

> > Umm... ok... I know that different turbo = different

> > efficiency and different torque curve etc... but my car made

> > 157rwkw with standard turbos at a dyno read 13psi... so I

> > don't see why you would go to a CT26? Also there is no way

> > in hell my car chirps the rears going into 3rd... hell it

> > doesn't even do it going into 2nd...

> >

> > Is there something I"m missing here?

> >

> > Regards

> >

> > Dave Thom

> > IT Engineer

> > 029 5666643

> > ----- Original Message -----

> > From: "Cully Paterson" <Cully@supras.org.nz>

> > To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List" <sconz@list.supras.org.nz>

> > Sent: Monday, November 29, 2004 1:24 PM

> > Subject: RE: [sconz] anyone selling any turbos?

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > > -----Original Message-----

> > > From: Hunt M [mailto:5uprah@supras.co.nz]

> > > Subject: RE: [sconz] anyone selling any turbos?

> > >

> > > Has anyone actually put a CT26 on a 1G with a good result?

> > > i.e. over 190-200rwkw?

> > > I remember someone made some homemade manifold set up and got

> > > like 150-160rwkw at like 14psi or something, but that was

> > > with a not so pretty manifold - pile of poo could be the best

> > > words to describe it?

> >

> >

> > Well your memory isn't entirely crap:

> > http://www.supras.org.nz/members/memberdetail.php?member=Robbi_Wright

> >

> > On the road he was making a lot more boost than he could crank on the

> > dyno, and was genuinely a very quick car.

> >

> >

> >

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> > http://www.turbo.co.nz

> >

> >

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RE: anyone selling any turbos?   2004-11-30 11:28:00 <john shannon>

So thay must of all gone out and got boost contolers.

my car as been on 3 diffrent dynos in a short time and thay have read the same power only the torque figer was diffrent.

>From: "Cully Paterson" <Cully@supras.org.nz>
>Reply-To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List" <sconz@list.supras.org.nz>
>To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List" <sconz@list.supras.org.nz>
>Subject: RE: [sconz] anyone selling any turbos?
>Date: Tue, 30 Nov 2004 11:22:05 +1300
>
>This was three years ago, and only relates to TP's dyno.  There was a
>sudden jump up in everyone's power output not long after we ran the
>SCONZ dyno day there.  If you look at the performance car dyno day
>figures around that time they all suddenly get a lot better...
>
>
>
>   _____
>
> From: john shannon [mailto:jshannon55@hotmail.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, 30 November 2004 11:17 a.m.
> To: SCONZ.list Forward
> Subject: RE: [sconz] anyone selling any turbos?
>
>
>
> wrong i have put my car on 3 dynos in one week beyond moter
>sport and rpm and torque peformance and geuss what thay all said the
>same thing between 298kw and 304kws so  thay are all out ?
>
>
>
> >From: "Cully Paterson" <Cully@supras.org.nz>
> >Reply-To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List"
><sconz@list.supras.org.nz>
> >To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List" <sconz@list.supras.org.nz>
> >Subject: RE: [sconz] anyone selling any turbos?
> >Date: Tue, 30 Nov 2004 10:49:50 +1300
> >
> >Those original results were before Torque Performances dyno
>took it's
> >mysterious 'upward plunge' that suddenly gave everyone more
>power....  I
> >wouldn't take anything from the figures.
> >
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Dave Thom [mailto:supras@boost.org.nz]
> > > Sent: Monday, 29 November 2004 11:59 p.m.
> > > To: SCONZ.list Forward
> > > Subject: Re: [sconz] anyone selling any turbos?
> > >
> > > Umm... ok... I know that different turbo = different
> > > efficiency and different torque curve etc... but my car made
>
> > > 157rwkw with standard turbos at a dyno read 13psi... so I
> > > don't see why you would go to a CT26?  Also there is no way
> > > in hell my car chirps the rears going into 3rd... hell it
> > > doesn't even do it going into 2nd...
> > >
> > > Is there something I"m missing here?
> > >
> > > Regards
> > >
> > > Dave Thom
> > > IT Engineer
> > > 029 5666643
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Cully Paterson" <Cully@supras.org.nz>
> > > To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List"
><sconz@list.supras.org.nz>
> > > Sent: Monday, November 29, 2004 1:24 PM
> > > Subject: RE: [sconz] anyone selling any turbos?
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: Hunt M [mailto:5uprah@supras.co.nz]
> > > > Subject: RE: [sconz] anyone selling any turbos?
> > > >
> > > > Has anyone actually put a CT26 on a 1G with a good result?
>
> > > > i.e. over 190-200rwkw?
> > > > I remember someone made some homemade manifold set up and
>got
> > > > like 150-160rwkw at like 14psi or something, but that was
> > > > with a not so pretty manifold - pile of poo could be the
>best
> > > > words to describe it?
> > >
> > >
> > > Well your memory isn't entirely crap:
> > >
>http://www.supras.org.nz/members/memberdetail.php?member=Robbi_Wright
> > >
> > > On the road he was making a lot more boost than he could
>crank on the
> > > dyno, and was genuinely a very quick car.
> > >
> > >
> > >
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> > > http://www.turbo.co.nz
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
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> > > Website sponsored by Alltech Diesel & Turbocharger
> > > http://www.turbo.co.nz
> > >
> >
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>
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RE: anyone selling any turbos?   2004-11-30 11:29:00 <Cully Paterson>
Seems to have lasted. ie It was previously reading low, rather than it
now being artificially high.


_____

From: Hunt M [mailto:5uprah@supras.co.nz]
Sent: Tuesday, 30 November 2004 11:27 a.m.
To: SCONZ.list Forward
Subject: RE: [sconz] anyone selling any turbos?



Did this jump in power output last or was it a once off thing
that was around for a month or two?




_____


From: bounce-38646-72@list.supras.org.nz
[mailto:bounce-38646-72@list.supras.org.nz] On Behalf Of Cully Paterson
Sent: Tuesday, November 30, 2004 11:22 AM
To: Supra Club of NZ Mailing List
Subject: RE: [sconz] anyone selling any turbos?



This was three years ago, and only relates to TP's dyno. There
was a sudden jump up in everyone's power output not long after we ran
the SCONZ dyno day there. If you look at the performance car dyno day
figures around that time they all suddenly get a lot better...






_____


From: john shannon [mailto:jshannon55@hotmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, 30 November 2004 11:17 a.m.
To: SCONZ.list Forward
Subject: RE: [sconz] anyone selling any turbos?

wrong i have put my car on 3 dynos in one week beyond
moter sport and rpm and torque peformance and geuss what thay all said
the same thing between 298kw and 304kws so thay are all out ?

>From: "Cully Paterson" <Cully@supras.org.nz>

>Reply-To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List"
<sconz@list.supras.org.nz>

>To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List"
<sconz@list.supras.org.nz>

>Subject: RE: [sconz] anyone selling any turbos?

>Date: Tue, 30 Nov 2004 10:49:50 +1300

>

>Those original results were before Torque Performances
dyno took it's

>mysterious 'upward plunge' that suddenly gave everyone
more power.... I

>wouldn't take anything from the figures.

>

>

> > -----Original Message-----

> > From: Dave Thom [mailto:supras@boost.org.nz]

> > Sent: Monday, 29 November 2004 11:59 p.m.

> > To: SCONZ.list Forward

> > Subject: Re: [sconz] anyone selling any turbos?

> >

> > Umm... ok... I know that different turbo = different


> > efficiency and different torque curve etc... but my
car made

> > 157rwkw with standard turbos at a dyno read 13psi...
so I

> > don't see why you would go to a CT26? Also there is
no way

> > in hell my car chirps the rears going into 3rd...
hell it

> > doesn't even do it going into 2nd...

> >

> > Is there something I"m missing here?

> >

> > Regards

> >

> > Dave Thom

> > IT Engineer

> > 029 5666643

> > ----- Original Message -----

> > From: "Cully Paterson" <Cully@supras.org.nz>

> > To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List"
<sconz@list.supras.org.nz>

> > Sent: Monday, November 29, 2004 1:24 PM

> > Subject: RE: [sconz] anyone selling any turbos?

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > > -----Original Message-----

> > > From: Hunt M [mailto:5uprah@supras.co.nz]

> > > Subject: RE: [sconz] anyone selling any turbos?

> > >

> > > Has anyone actually put a CT26 on a 1G with a good
result?

> > > i.e. over 190-200rwkw?

> > > I remember someone made some homemade manifold set
up and got

> > > like 150-160rwkw at like 14psi or something, but
that was

> > > with a not so pretty manifold - pile of poo could
be the best

> > > words to describe it?

> >

> >

> > Well your memory isn't entirely crap:

> >
http://www.supras.org.nz/members/memberdetail.php?member=Robbi_Wright

> >

> > On the road he was making a lot more boost than he
could crank on the

> > dyno, and was genuinely a very quick car.

> >

> >

> >

> > ---

> > Supra Club of New Zealand -
http://www.supras.org.nz/

> > Website sponsored by Alltech Diesel & Turbocharger

> > http://www.turbo.co.nz

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > ---

> > Supra Club of New Zealand -
http://www.supras.org.nz/

> > Website sponsored by Alltech Diesel & Turbocharger

> > http://www.turbo.co.nz

> >

>

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>Website sponsored by Alltech Diesel & Turbocharger
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RE: anyone selling any turbos?   2004-11-30 11:32:00 <Cully Paterson>
Are you blind? This was *three*years*ago*. Long before you went
visiting every dyno in town.


_____

From: john shannon [mailto:jshannon55@hotmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, 30 November 2004 11:27 a.m.
To: SCONZ.list Forward
Subject: RE: [sconz] anyone selling any turbos?



So thay must of all gone out and got boost contolers.

my car as been on 3 diffrent dynos in a short time and thay have
read the same power only the torque figer was diffrent.



>From: "Cully Paterson" <Cully@supras.org.nz>
>Reply-To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List"
<sconz@list.supras.org.nz>
>To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List" <sconz@list.supras.org.nz>
>Subject: RE: [sconz] anyone selling any turbos?
>Date: Tue, 30 Nov 2004 11:22:05 +1300
>
>This was three years ago, and only relates to TP's dyno. There
was a
>sudden jump up in everyone's power output not long after we ran
the
>SCONZ dyno day there. If you look at the performance car dyno
day
>figures around that time they all suddenly get a lot better...
>
>
>
> _____
>
> From: john shannon [mailto:jshannon55@hotmail.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, 30 November 2004 11:17 a.m.
> To: SCONZ.list Forward
> Subject: RE: [sconz] anyone selling any turbos?
>
>
>
> wrong i have put my car on 3 dynos in one week beyond moter
>sport and rpm and torque peformance and geuss what thay all
said the
>same thing between 298kw and 304kws so thay are all out ?
>
>
>
> >From: "Cully Paterson" <Cully@supras.org.nz>
> >Reply-To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List"
><sconz@list.supras.org.nz>
> >To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List"
<sconz@list.supras.org.nz>
> >Subject: RE: [sconz] anyone selling any turbos?
> >Date: Tue, 30 Nov 2004 10:49:50 +1300
> >
> >Those original results were before Torque Performances dyno
>took it's
> >mysterious 'upward plunge' that suddenly gave everyone more
>power.... I
> >wouldn't take anything from the figures.
> >
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Dave Thom [mailto:supras@boost.org.nz]
> > > Sent: Monday, 29 November 2004 11:59 p.m.
> > > To: SCONZ.list Forward
> > > Subject: Re: [sconz] anyone selling any turbos?
> > >
> > > Umm... ok... I know that different turbo = different
> > > efficiency and different torque curve etc... but my car
made
>
> > > 157rwkw with standard turbos at a dyno read 13psi... so I
> > > don't see why you would go to a CT26? Also there is no
way
> > > in hell my car chirps the rears going into 3rd... hell it
> > > doesn't even do it going into 2nd...
> > >
> > > Is there something I"m missing here?
> > >
> > > Regards
> > >
> > > Dave Thom
> > > IT Engineer
> > > 029 5666643
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Cully Paterson" <Cully@supras.org.nz>
> > > To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List"
><sconz@list.supras.org.nz>
> > > Sent: Monday, November 29, 2004 1:24 PM
> > > Subject: RE: [sconz] anyone selling any turbos?
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: Hunt M [mailto:5uprah@supras.co.nz]
> > > > Subject: RE: [sconz] anyone selling any turbos?
> > > >
> > > > Has anyone actually put a CT26 on a 1G with a good
result?
>
> > > > i.e. over 190-200rwkw?
> > > > I remember someone made some homemade manifold set up
and
>got
> > > > like 150-160rwkw at like 14psi or something, but that
was
> > > > with a not so pretty manifold - pile of poo could be the

>best
> > > > words to describe it?
> > >
> > >
> > > Well your memory isn't entirely crap:
> > >

>http://www.supras.org.nz/members/memberdetail.php?member=Robbi_Wright
> > >
> > > On the road he was making a lot more boost than he could
>crank on the
> > > dyno, and was genuinely a very quick car.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ---
> > > Supra Club of New Zealand - http://www.supras.org.nz/
> > > Website sponsored by Alltech Diesel & Turbocharger
> > > http://www.turbo.co.nz
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ---
> > > Supra Club of New Zealand - http://www.supras.org.nz/
> > > Website sponsored by Alltech Diesel & Turbocharger
> > > http://www.turbo.co.nz
> > >
> >
> >---
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> >Website sponsored by Alltech Diesel & Turbocharger
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>
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Re: anyone selling any turbos?   2004-11-30 11:36:00 <Dave Thom>
I believe people are arguing two different points here...

Cully is stating that the TP dyno appeared to suddenly started reading higher at a point 3 years ago, I dont' know how significant the jump was, but I do know by the nature of dyno's they're not exactly a fantastic judge of "power" on the road.

John is arguing that he's been on 3 different dyno's, all read the same, so therefore if the TP dyno was reading high, so must the other two dyno's be reading high due to giving the same figures...

*end crossed noodles*

Regards

Dave Thom
IT Engineer
029 5666643
----- Original Message -----
From: Cully Paterson
To: Supra Club of NZ Mailing List
Sent: Tuesday, November 30, 2004 11:32 AM
Subject: RE: [sconz] anyone selling any turbos?


Are you blind? This was *three*years*ago*. Long before you went visiting every dyno in town.



----------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: john shannon [mailto:jshannon55@hotmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, 30 November 2004 11:27 a.m.
To: SCONZ.list Forward
Subject: RE: [sconz] anyone selling any turbos?


So thay must of all gone out and got boost contolers.

my car as been on 3 diffrent dynos in a short time and thay have read the same power only the torque figer was diffrent.



>From: "Cully Paterson" <Cully@supras.org.nz>
>Reply-To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List" <sconz@list.supras.org.nz>
>To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List" <sconz@list.supras.org.nz>
>Subject: RE: [sconz] anyone selling any turbos?
>Date: Tue, 30 Nov 2004 11:22:05 +1300
>
>This was three years ago, and only relates to TP's dyno. There was a
>sudden jump up in everyone's power output not long after we ran the
>SCONZ dyno day there. If you look at the performance car dyno day
>figures around that time they all suddenly get a lot better...
>
>
>
> _____
>
> From: john shannon [mailto:jshannon55@hotmail.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, 30 November 2004 11:17 a.m.
> To: SCONZ.list Forward
> Subject: RE: [sconz] anyone selling any turbos?
>
>
>
> wrong i have put my car on 3 dynos in one week beyond moter
>sport and rpm and torque peformance and geuss what thay all said the
>same thing between 298kw and 304kws so thay are all out ?
>
>
>
> >From: "Cully Paterson" <Cully@supras.org.nz>
> >Reply-To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List"
><sconz@list.supras.org.nz>
> >To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List" <sconz@list.supras.org.nz>
> >Subject: RE: [sconz] anyone selling any turbos?
> >Date: Tue, 30 Nov 2004 10:49:50 +1300
> >
> >Those original results were before Torque Performances dyno
>took it's
> >mysterious 'upward plunge' that suddenly gave everyone more
>power.... I
> >wouldn't take anything from the figures.
> >
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Dave Thom [mailto:supras@boost.org.nz]
> > > Sent: Monday, 29 November 2004 11:59 p.m.
> > > To: SCONZ.list Forward
> > > Subject: Re: [sconz] anyone selling any turbos?
> > >
> > > Umm... ok... I know that different turbo = different
> > > efficiency and different torque curve etc... but my car made
>
> > > 157rwkw with standard turbos at a dyno read 13psi... so I
> > > don't see why you would go to a CT26? Also there is no way
> > > in hell my car chirps the rears going into 3rd... hell it
> > > doesn't even do it going into 2nd...
> > >
> > > Is there something I"m missing here?
> > >
> > > Regards
> > >
> > > Dave Thom
> > > IT Engineer
> > > 029 5666643
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Cully Paterson" <Cully@supras.org.nz>
> > > To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List"
><sconz@list.supras.org.nz>
> > > Sent: Monday, November 29, 2004 1:24 PM
> > > Subject: RE: [sconz] anyone selling any turbos?
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: Hunt M [mailto:5uprah@supras.co.nz]
> > > > Subject: RE: [sconz] anyone selling any turbos?
> > > >
> > > > Has anyone actually put a CT26 on a 1G with a good result?
>
> > > > i.e. over 190-200rwkw?
> > > > I remember someone made some homemade manifold set up and
>got
> > > > like 150-160rwkw at like 14psi or something, but that was
> > > > with a not so pretty manifold - pile of poo could be the
>best
> > > > words to describe it?
> > >
> > >
> > > Well your memory isn't entirely crap:
> > >
>http://www.supras.org.nz/members/memberdetail.php?member=Robbi_Wright
> > >
> > > On the road he was making a lot more boost than he could
>crank on the
> > > dyno, and was genuinely a very quick car.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ---
> > > Supra Club of New Zealand - http://www.supras.org.nz/
> > > Website sponsored by Alltech Diesel & Turbocharger
> > > http://www.turbo.co.nz
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ---
> > > Supra Club of New Zealand - http://www.supras.org.nz/
> > > Website sponsored by Alltech Diesel & Turbocharger
> > > http://www.turbo.co.nz
> > >
> >
> >---
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> >Website sponsored by Alltech Diesel & Turbocharger
>http://www.turbo.co.nz
>
> _____
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RE: anyone selling any turbos?   2004-11-30 11:36:00 <Doig, Richard>
I have an article about how a roller dyno can be fudged. There are soooo
many ways it can be changed, even down to a change to the ambient air temp
sensor correlation. At the end of the day they are an indicator, nothing
more. Must try to find it. You'll find that dyno software even has a
correction factor to fudge the overall numbers (eg add 5% to everything).



If you take dyno readings as gospel fact you are a fool. High numbers are
good for business, simple as that.



If one car reads 201 rwkW and the next reads 202 rwkW can you say one
definitely has more power? Not once you take the tolerances and errors into
account.



_____

From: bounce-38650-27@list.supras.org.nz
[mailto:bounce-38650-27@list.supras.org.nz] On Behalf Of Cully Paterson
Sent: Tuesday, 30 November 2004 11:29 a.m.
To: Supra Club of NZ Mailing List
Subject: RE: [sconz] anyone selling any turbos?



Seems to have lasted. ie It was previously reading low, rather than it now
being artificially high.




_____


From: Hunt M [mailto:5uprah@supras.co.nz]
Sent: Tuesday, 30 November 2004 11:27 a.m.
To: SCONZ.list Forward
Subject: RE: [sconz] anyone selling any turbos?

Did this jump in power output last or was it a once off thing that was
around for a month or two?




_____


From: bounce-38646-72@list.supras.org.nz
[mailto:bounce-38646-72@list.supras.org.nz] On Behalf Of Cully Paterson
Sent: Tuesday, November 30, 2004 11:22 AM
To: Supra Club of NZ Mailing List
Subject: RE: [sconz] anyone selling any turbos?



This was three years ago, and only relates to TP's dyno. There was a sudden
jump up in everyone's power output not long after we ran the SCONZ dyno day
there. If you look at the performance car dyno day figures around that time
they all suddenly get a lot better...






_____


From: john shannon [mailto:jshannon55@hotmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, 30 November 2004 11:17 a.m.
To: SCONZ.list Forward
Subject: RE: [sconz] anyone selling any turbos?

wrong i have put my car on 3 dynos in one week beyond moter sport and rpm
and torque peformance and geuss what thay all said the same thing between
298kw and 304kws so thay are all out ?

>From: "Cully Paterson" <Cully@supras.org.nz>

>Reply-To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List" <sconz@list.supras.org.nz>

>To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List" <sconz@list.supras.org.nz>

>Subject: RE: [sconz] anyone selling any turbos?

>Date: Tue, 30 Nov 2004 10:49:50 +1300

>

>Those original results were before Torque Performances dyno took it's

>mysterious 'upward plunge' that suddenly gave everyone more power.... I

>wouldn't take anything from the figures.

>

>

> > -----Original Message-----

> > From: Dave Thom [mailto:supras@boost.org.nz]

> > Sent: Monday, 29 November 2004 11:59 p.m.

> > To: SCONZ.list Forward

> > Subject: Re: [sconz] anyone selling any turbos?

> >

> > Umm... ok... I know that different turbo = different

> > efficiency and different torque curve etc... but my car made

> > 157rwkw with standard turbos at a dyno read 13psi... so I

> > don't see why you would go to a CT26? Also there is no way

> > in hell my car chirps the rears going into 3rd... hell it

> > doesn't even do it going into 2nd...

> >

> > Is there something I"m missing here?

> >

> > Regards

> >

> > Dave Thom

> > IT Engineer

> > 029 5666643

> > ----- Original Message -----

> > From: "Cully Paterson" <Cully@supras.org.nz>

> > To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List" <sconz@list.supras.org.nz>

> > Sent: Monday, November 29, 2004 1:24 PM

> > Subject: RE: [sconz] anyone selling any turbos?

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > > -----Original Message-----

> > > From: Hunt M [mailto:5uprah@supras.co.nz]

> > > Subject: RE: [sconz] anyone selling any turbos?

> > >

> > > Has anyone actually put a CT26 on a 1G with a good result?

> > > i.e. over 190-200rwkw?

> > > I remember someone made some homemade manifold set up and got

> > > like 150-160rwkw at like 14psi or something, but that was

> > > with a not so pretty manifold - pile of poo could be the best

> > > words to describe it?

> >

> >

> > Well your memory isn't entirely crap:

> > http://www.supras.org.nz/members/memberdetail.php?member=Robbi_Wright

> >

> > On the road he was making a lot more boost than he could crank on the

> > dyno, and was genuinely a very quick car.

> >

> >

> >

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> > http://www.turbo.co.nz

> >

> >

> >

> >

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> >

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RE: anyone selling any turbos?   2004-11-30 11:36:00 <john shannon>

why dident you say so 3 years ago, i only had my supra 2 years,

>From: "Cully Paterson" <Cully@supras.org.nz>
>Reply-To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List" <sconz@list.supras.org.nz>
>To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List" <sconz@list.supras.org.nz>
>Subject: RE: [sconz] anyone selling any turbos?
>Date: Tue, 30 Nov 2004 11:32:01 +1300
>
>Are you blind?  This was *three*years*ago*.  Long before you went
>visiting every dyno in town.
>
>
>   _____
>
> From: john shannon [mailto:jshannon55@hotmail.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, 30 November 2004 11:27 a.m.
> To: SCONZ.list Forward
> Subject: RE: [sconz] anyone selling any turbos?
>
>
>
> So thay must of all gone out and got boost contolers.
>
> my car as been on 3 diffrent dynos in a short time and thay have
>read the same power only the torque figer was diffrent.
>
>
>
> >From: "Cully Paterson" <Cully@supras.org.nz>
> >Reply-To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List"
><sconz@list.supras.org.nz>
> >To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List" <sconz@list.supras.org.nz>
> >Subject: RE: [sconz] anyone selling any turbos?
> >Date: Tue, 30 Nov 2004 11:22:05 +1300
> >
> >This was three years ago, and only relates to TP's dyno.  There
>was a
> >sudden jump up in everyone's power output not long after we ran
>the
> >SCONZ dyno day there.  If you look at the performance car dyno
>day
> >figures around that time they all suddenly get a lot better...
> >
> >
> >
> >   _____
> >
> > From: john shannon [mailto:jshannon55@hotmail.com]
> > Sent: Tuesday, 30 November 2004 11:17 a.m.
> > To: SCONZ.list Forward
> > Subject: RE: [sconz] anyone selling any turbos?
> >
> >
> >
> > wrong i have put my car on 3 dynos in one week beyond moter
> >sport and rpm and torque peformance and geuss what thay all
>said the
> >same thing between 298kw and 304kws so  thay are all out ?
> >
> >
> >
> > >From: "Cully Paterson" <Cully@supras.org.nz>
> > >Reply-To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List"
> ><sconz@list.supras.org.nz>
> > >To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List"
><sconz@list.supras.org.nz>
> > >Subject: RE: [sconz] anyone selling any turbos?
> > >Date: Tue, 30 Nov 2004 10:49:50 +1300
> > >
> > >Those original results were before Torque Performances dyno
> >took it's
> > >mysterious 'upward plunge' that suddenly gave everyone more
> >power....  I
> > >wouldn't take anything from the figures.
> > >
> > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: Dave Thom [mailto:supras@boost.org.nz]
> > > > Sent: Monday, 29 November 2004 11:59 p.m.
> > > > To: SCONZ.list Forward
> > > > Subject: Re: [sconz] anyone selling any turbos?
> > > >
> > > > Umm... ok... I know that different turbo = different
> > > > efficiency and different torque curve etc... but my car
>made
> >
> > > > 157rwkw with standard turbos at a dyno read 13psi... so I
> > > > don't see why you would go to a CT26?  Also there is no
>way
> > > > in hell my car chirps the rears going into 3rd... hell it
> > > > doesn't even do it going into 2nd...
> > > >
> > > > Is there something I"m missing here?
> > > >
> > > > Regards
> > > >
> > > > Dave Thom
> > > > IT Engineer
> > > > 029 5666643
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: "Cully Paterson" <Cully@supras.org.nz>
> > > > To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List"
> ><sconz@list.supras.org.nz>
> > > > Sent: Monday, November 29, 2004 1:24 PM
> > > > Subject: RE: [sconz] anyone selling any turbos?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From: Hunt M [mailto:5uprah@supras.co.nz]
> > > > > Subject: RE: [sconz] anyone selling any turbos?
> > > > >
> > > > > Has anyone actually put a CT26 on a 1G with a good
>result?
> >
> > > > > i.e. over 190-200rwkw?
> > > > > I remember someone made some homemade manifold set up
>and
> >got
> > > > > like 150-160rwkw at like 14psi or something, but that
>was
> > > > > with a not so pretty manifold - pile of poo could be the
>
> >best
> > > > > words to describe it?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Well your memory isn't entirely crap:
> > > >
>
> >http://www.supras.org.nz/members/memberdetail.php?member=Robbi_Wright
> > > >
> > > > On the road he was making a lot more boost than he could
> >crank on the
> > > > dyno, and was genuinely a very quick car.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > ---
> > > > Supra Club of New Zealand - http://www.supras.org.nz/
> > > > Website sponsored by Alltech Diesel & Turbocharger
> > > > http://www.turbo.co.nz
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > ---
> > > > Supra Club of New Zealand - http://www.supras.org.nz/
> > > > Website sponsored by Alltech Diesel & Turbocharger
> > > > http://www.turbo.co.nz
> > > >
> > >
> > >---
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> > >Website sponsored by Alltech Diesel & Turbocharger
> >http://www.turbo.co.nz
> >
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> >
> >
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> >Website sponsored by Alltech Diesel & Turbocharger
>http://www.turbo.co.nz
>
>   _____
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>http://www.turbo.co.nz
>
>
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RE: anyone selling any turbos?   2004-11-30 11:41:00 <Cully Paterson>
What was it about "This was three years ago, and only relates to TP's
dyno." that confused you?



_____

From: john shannon [mailto:jshannon55@hotmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, 30 November 2004 11:35 a.m.
To: SCONZ.list Forward
Subject: RE: [sconz] anyone selling any turbos?



why dident you say so 3 years ago, i only had my supra 2 years,



>From: "Cully Paterson" <Cully@supras.org.nz>
>Reply-To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List"
<sconz@list.supras.org.nz>
>To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List" <sconz@list.supras.org.nz>
>Subject: RE: [sconz] anyone selling any turbos?
>Date: Tue, 30 Nov 2004 11:32:01 +1300
>
>Are you blind? This was *three*years*ago*. Long before you
went
>visiting every dyno in town.
>
>
> _____
>
> From: john shannon [mailto:jshannon55@hotmail.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, 30 November 2004 11:27 a.m.
> To: SCONZ.list Forward
> Subject: RE: [sconz] anyone selling any turbos?
>
>
>
> So thay must of all gone out and got boost contolers.
>
> my car as been on 3 diffrent dynos in a short time and thay
have
>read the same power only the torque figer was diffrent.
>
>
>
> >From: "Cully Paterson" <Cully@supras.org.nz>
> >Reply-To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List"
><sconz@list.supras.org.nz>
> >To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List"
<sconz@list.supras.org.nz>
> >Subject: RE: [sconz] anyone selling any turbos?
> >Date: Tue, 30 Nov 2004 11:22:05 +1300
> >
> >This was three years ago, and only relates to TP's dyno.
There
>was a
> >sudden jump up in everyone's power output not long after we
ran
>the
> >SCONZ dyno day there. If you look at the performance car
dyno
>day
> >figures around that time they all suddenly get a lot
better...
> >
> >
> >
> > _____
> >
> > From: john shannon [mailto:jshannon55@hotmail.com]
> > Sent: Tuesday, 30 November 2004 11:17 a.m.
> > To: SCONZ.list Forward
> > Subject: RE: [sconz] anyone selling any turbos?
> >
> >
> >
> > wrong i have put my car on 3 dynos in one week beyond moter
> >sport and rpm and torque peformance and geuss what thay all
>said the
> >same thing between 298kw and 304kws so thay are all out ?
> >
> >
> >
> > >From: "Cully Paterson" <Cully@supras.org.nz>
> > >Reply-To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List"
> ><sconz@list.supras.org.nz>
> > >To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List"
><sconz@list.supras.org.nz>
> > >Subject: RE: [sconz] anyone selling any turbos?
> > >Date: Tue, 30 Nov 2004 10:49:50 +1300
> > >
> > >Those original results were before Torque Performances dyno

> >took it's
> > >mysterious 'upward plunge' that suddenly gave everyone more

> >power.... I
> > >wouldn't take anything from the figures.
> > >
> > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: Dave Thom [mailto:supras@boost.org.nz]
> > > > Sent: Monday, 29 November 2004 11:59 p.m.
> > > > To: SCONZ.list Forward
> > > > Subject: Re: [sconz] anyone selling any turbos?
> > > >
> > > > Umm... ok... I know that different turbo = different
> > > > efficiency and different torque curve etc... but my car
>made
> >
> > > > 157rwkw with standard turbos at a dyno read 13psi... so
I
> > > > don't see why you would go to a CT26? Also there is no
>way
> > > > in hell my car chirps the rears going into 3rd... hell
it
> > > > doesn't even do it going into 2nd...
> > > >
> > > > Is there something I"m missing here?
> > > >
> > > > Regards
> > > >
> > > > Dave Thom
> > > > IT Engineer
> > > > 029 5666643
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: "Cully Paterson" <Cully@supras.org.nz>
> > > > To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List"
> ><sconz@list.supras.org.nz>
> > > > Sent: Monday, November 29, 2004 1:24 PM
> > > > Subject: RE: [sconz] anyone selling any turbos?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From: Hunt M [mailto:5uprah@supras.co.nz]
> > > > > Subject: RE: [sconz] anyone selling any turbos?
> > > > >
> > > > > Has anyone actually put a CT26 on a 1G with a good
>result?
> >
> > > > > i.e. over 190-200rwkw?
> > > > > I remember someone made some homemade manifold set up
>and
> >got
> > > > > like 150-160rwkw at like 14psi or something, but that
>was
> > > > > with a not so pretty manifold - pile of poo could be
the
>
> >best
> > > > > words to describe it?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Well your memory isn't entirely crap:
> > > >
>
>
>http://www.supras.org.nz/members/memberdetail.php?member=Robbi_Wright
> > > >
> > > > On the road he was making a lot more boost than he could

> >crank on the
> > > > dyno, and was genuinely a very quick car.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > ---
> > > > Supra Club of New Zealand - http://www.supras.org.nz/
> > > > Website sponsored by Alltech Diesel & Turbocharger
> > > > http://www.turbo.co.nz
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > ---
> > > > Supra Club of New Zealand - http://www.supras.org.nz/
> > > > Website sponsored by Alltech Diesel & Turbocharger
> > > > http://www.turbo.co.nz
> > > >
> > >
> > >---
> > >Supra Club of New Zealand - http://www.supras.org.nz/
> > >Website sponsored by Alltech Diesel & Turbocharger
> >http://www.turbo.co.nz
> >
> > _____
> >
> > Watch movie trailers online with the Xtra Broadband Channel
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> > Supra Club of New Zealand - http://www.supras.org.nz/
> > Website sponsored by Alltech Diesel & Turbocharger
> >http://www.turbo.co.nz
> >
> >
> >---
> >Supra Club of New Zealand - http://www.supras.org.nz/
> >Website sponsored by Alltech Diesel & Turbocharger
>http://www.turbo.co.nz
>
> _____
>
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>http://www.turbo.co.nz
>
>
>---
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RE: anyone selling any turbos?   2004-11-30 12:21:00 <Hunt M>
You never stated that when you made you claim to fame about the dyno being
out - you said that it was inaccurate when the test took place but you never
said if it was when Dave's was on it or if it was Robbi's



So you're saying that its not out now? That you know of.



Cheers

Hunt

www.supras.co.nz *home to the not so standard 1G-GTE*



_____

From: bounce-38655-72@list.supras.org.nz
[mailto:bounce-38655-72@list.supras.org.nz] On Behalf Of Cully Paterson
Sent: Tuesday, 30 November 2004 11:41 a.m.
To: Supra Club of NZ Mailing List
Subject: RE: [sconz] anyone selling any turbos?



What was it about "This was three years ago, and only relates to TP's dyno."
that confused you?





_____


From: john shannon [mailto:jshannon55@hotmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, 30 November 2004 11:35 a.m.
To: SCONZ.list Forward
Subject: RE: [sconz] anyone selling any turbos?

why dident you say so 3 years ago, i only had my supra 2 years,

>From: "Cully Paterson" <Cully@supras.org.nz>

>Reply-To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List" <sconz@list.supras.org.nz>

>To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List" <sconz@list.supras.org.nz>

>Subject: RE: [sconz] anyone selling any turbos?

>Date: Tue, 30 Nov 2004 11:32:01 +1300

>

>Are you blind? This was *three*years*ago*. Long before you went

>visiting every dyno in town.

>

>

> _____

>

> From: john shannon [mailto:jshannon55@hotmail.com]

> Sent: Tuesday, 30 November 2004 11:27 a.m.

> To: SCONZ.list Forward

> Subject: RE: [sconz] anyone selling any turbos?

>

>

>

> So thay must of all gone out and got boost contolers.

>

> my car as been on 3 diffrent dynos in a short time and thay have

>read the same power only the torque figer was diffrent.

>

>

>

> >From: "Cully Paterson" <Cully@supras.org.nz>

> >Reply-To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List"

><sconz@list.supras.org.nz>

> >To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List" <sconz@list.supras.org.nz>

> >Subject: RE: [sconz] anyone selling any turbos?

> >Date: Tue, 30 Nov 2004 11:22:05 +1300

> >

> >This was three years ago, and only relates to TP's dyno. There

>was a

> >sudden jump up in everyone's power output not long after we ran

>the

> >SCONZ dyno day there. If you look at the performance car dyno

>day

> >figures around that time they all suddenly get a lot better...

> >

> >

> >

> > _____

> >

> > From: john shannon [mailto:jshannon55@hotmail.com]

> > Sent: Tuesday, 30 November 2004 11:17 a.m.

> > To: SCONZ.list Forward

> > Subject: RE: [sconz] anyone selling any turbos?

> >

> >

> >

> > wrong i have put my car on 3 dynos in one week beyond moter

> >sport and rpm and torque peformance and geuss what thay all

>said the

> >same thing between 298kw and 304kws so thay are all out ?

> >

> >

> >

> > >From: "Cully Paterson" <Cully@supras.org.nz>

> > >Reply-To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List"

> ><sconz@list.supras.org.nz>

> > >To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List"

><sconz@list.supras.org.nz>

> > >Subject: RE: [sconz] anyone selling any turbos?

> > >Date: Tue, 30 Nov 2004 10:49:50 +1300

> > >

> > >Those original results were before Torque Performances dyno

> >took it's

> > >mysterious 'upward plunge' that suddenly gave everyone more

> >power.... I

> > >wouldn't take anything from the figures.

> > >

> > >

> > > > -----Original Message-----

> > > > From: Dave Thom [mailto:supras@boost.org.nz]

> > > > Sent: Monday, 29 November 2004 11:59 p.m.

> > > > To: SCONZ.list Forward

> > > > Subject: Re: [sconz] anyone selling any turbos?

> > > >

> > > > Umm... ok... I know that different turbo = different

> > > > efficiency and different torque curve etc... but my car

>made

> >

> > > > 157rwkw with standard turbos at a dyno read 13psi... so I

> > > > don't see why you would go to a CT26? Also there is no

>way

> > > > in hell my car chirps the rears going into 3rd... hell it

> > > > doesn't even do it going into 2nd...

> > > >

> > > > Is there something I"m missing here?

> > > >

> > > > Regards

> > > >

> > > > Dave Thom

> > > > IT Engineer

> > > > 029 5666643

> > > > ----- Original Message -----

> > > > From: "Cully Paterson" <Cully@supras.org.nz>

> > > > To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List"

> ><sconz@list.supras.org.nz>

> > > > Sent: Monday, November 29, 2004 1:24 PM

> > > > Subject: RE: [sconz] anyone selling any turbos?

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > > -----Original Message-----

> > > > > From: Hunt M [mailto:5uprah@supras.co.nz]

> > > > > Subject: RE: [sconz] anyone selling any turbos?

> > > > >

> > > > > Has anyone actually put a CT26 on a 1G with a good

>result?

> >

> > > > > i.e. over 190-200rwkw?

> > > > > I remember someone made some homemade manifold set up

>and

> >got

> > > > > like 150-160rwkw at like 14psi or something, but that

>was

> > > > > with a not so pretty manifold - pile of poo could be the

>

> >best

> > > > > words to describe it?

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Well your memory isn't entirely crap:

> > > >

>

> >http://www.supras.org.nz/members/memberdetail.php?member=Robbi_Wright

> > > >

> > > > On the road he was making a lot more boost than he could

> >crank on the

> > > > dyno, and was genuinely a very quick car.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > ---

> > > > Supra Club of New Zealand - http://www.supras.org.nz/

> > > > Website sponsored by Alltech Diesel & Turbocharger

> > > > http://www.turbo.co.nz

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > ---

> > > > Supra Club of New Zealand - http://www.supras.org.nz/

> > > > Website sponsored by Alltech Diesel & Turbocharger

> > > > http://www.turbo.co.nz

> > > >

> > >

> > >---

> > >Supra Club of New Zealand - http://www.supras.org.nz/

> > >Website sponsored by Alltech Diesel & Turbocharger

> >http://www.turbo.co.nz

> >

> > _____

> >

> > Watch movie trailers online with the Xtra Broadband Channel

> ><http://g.msn.com/8HMBENNZ/2752??PS=47575> ! ---

> > Supra Club of New Zealand - http://www.supras.org.nz/

> > Website sponsored by Alltech Diesel & Turbocharger

> >http://www.turbo.co.nz

> >

> >

> >---

> >Supra Club of New Zealand - http://www.supras.org.nz/

> >Website sponsored by Alltech Diesel & Turbocharger

>http://www.turbo.co.nz

>

> _____

>

> Check out news, entertainment and more on the Xtra Broadband

>Channel <http://g.msn.com/8HMBENNZ/2743??PS=47575> ---

> Supra Club of New Zealand - http://www.supras.org.nz/

> Website sponsored by Alltech Diesel & Turbocharger

>http://www.turbo.co.nz

>

>

>---

>Supra Club of New Zealand - http://www.supras.org.nz/

>Website sponsored by Alltech Diesel & Turbocharger http://www.turbo.co.nz





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There's never been a better time to get Xtra JetStream!
<http://g.msn.com/8HMBENNZ/2734??PS=47575> ---
Supra Club of New Zealand - http://www.supras.org.nz/
Website sponsored by Alltech Diesel & Turbocharger http://www.turbo.co.nz

---
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Website sponsored by Alltech Diesel & Turbocharger http://www.turbo.co.nz


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RE: anyone selling any turbos?   2004-11-30 12:33:00 <Marc Archbold>


Pitty they didnt have a gas analyser as that may have been more useful than the
power output to aid solving your meltdowns.

Cheers,
Marc


> <P>So thay must of all gone out and got boost contolers.</P>
> <P>my car as been on 3 diffrent dynos in a short time and thay have read
> the same power only the torque figer was diffrent.<BR><BR></P></DIV>

Reply

RE: anyone selling any turbos?   2004-11-30 12:48:00 <Cully Paterson>
It seems blindingly obvious in the context of the conversation which
vehicle I was talking about, particularly as you were the one who
started the discussion about it.


_____

From: Hunt M [mailto:5uprah@supras.co.nz]
Sent: Tuesday, 30 November 2004 12:21 p.m.
To: SCONZ.list Forward
Subject: RE: [sconz] anyone selling any turbos?



You never stated that when you made you claim to fame about the
dyno being out - you said that it was inaccurate when the test took
place but you never said if it was when Dave's was on it or if it was
Robbi's



So you're saying that its not out now? That you know of...



Cheers

Hunt

www.supras.co.nz *home to the not so standard 1G-GTE*




_____


From: bounce-38655-72@list.supras.org.nz
[mailto:bounce-38655-72@list.supras.org.nz] On Behalf Of Cully Paterson
Sent: Tuesday, 30 November 2004 11:41 a.m.
To: Supra Club of NZ Mailing List
Subject: RE: [sconz] anyone selling any turbos?



What was it about "This was three years ago, and only relates to
TP's dyno." that confused you?





_____


From: john shannon [mailto:jshannon55@hotmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, 30 November 2004 11:35 a.m.
To: SCONZ.list Forward
Subject: RE: [sconz] anyone selling any turbos?

why dident you say so 3 years ago, i only had my supra 2
years,

>From: "Cully Paterson" <Cully@supras.org.nz>

>Reply-To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List"
<sconz@list.supras.org.nz>

>To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List"
<sconz@list.supras.org.nz>

>Subject: RE: [sconz] anyone selling any turbos?

>Date: Tue, 30 Nov 2004 11:32:01 +1300

>

>Are you blind? This was *three*years*ago*. Long
before you went

>visiting every dyno in town.

>

>

> _____

>

> From: john shannon [mailto:jshannon55@hotmail.com]

> Sent: Tuesday, 30 November 2004 11:27 a.m.

> To: SCONZ.list Forward

> Subject: RE: [sconz] anyone selling any turbos?

>

>

>

> So thay must of all gone out and got boost contolers.

>

> my car as been on 3 diffrent dynos in a short time and
thay have

>read the same power only the torque figer was diffrent.


>

>

>

> >From: "Cully Paterson" <Cully@supras.org.nz>

> >Reply-To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List"

><sconz@list.supras.org.nz>

> >To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List"
<sconz@list.supras.org.nz>

> >Subject: RE: [sconz] anyone selling any turbos?

> >Date: Tue, 30 Nov 2004 11:22:05 +1300

> >

> >This was three years ago, and only relates to TP's
dyno. There

>was a

> >sudden jump up in everyone's power output not long
after we ran

>the

> >SCONZ dyno day there. If you look at the performance
car dyno

>day

> >figures around that time they all suddenly get a lot
better...

> >

> >

> >

> > _____

> >

> > From: john shannon [mailto:jshannon55@hotmail.com]

> > Sent: Tuesday, 30 November 2004 11:17 a.m.

> > To: SCONZ.list Forward

> > Subject: RE: [sconz] anyone selling any turbos?

> >

> >

> >

> > wrong i have put my car on 3 dynos in one week
beyond moter

> >sport and rpm and torque peformance and geuss what
thay all

>said the

> >same thing between 298kw and 304kws so thay are all
out ?

> >

> >

> >

> > >From: "Cully Paterson" <Cully@supras.org.nz>

> > >Reply-To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List"

> ><sconz@list.supras.org.nz>

> > >To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List"

><sconz@list.supras.org.nz>

> > >Subject: RE: [sconz] anyone selling any turbos?

> > >Date: Tue, 30 Nov 2004 10:49:50 +1300

> > >

> > >Those original results were before Torque
Performances dyno

> >took it's

> > >mysterious 'upward plunge' that suddenly gave
everyone more

> >power.... I

> > >wouldn't take anything from the figures.

> > >

> > >

> > > > -----Original Message-----

> > > > From: Dave Thom [mailto:supras@boost.org.nz]

> > > > Sent: Monday, 29 November 2004 11:59 p.m.

> > > > To: SCONZ.list Forward

> > > > Subject: Re: [sconz] anyone selling any turbos?

> > > >

> > > > Umm... ok... I know that different turbo =
different

> > > > efficiency and different torque curve etc... but
my car

>made

> >

> > > > 157rwkw with standard turbos at a dyno read
13psi... so I

> > > > don't see why you would go to a CT26? Also
there is no

>way

> > > > in hell my car chirps the rears going into
3rd... hell it

> > > > doesn't even do it going into 2nd...

> > > >

> > > > Is there something I"m missing here?

> > > >

> > > > Regards

> > > >

> > > > Dave Thom

> > > > IT Engineer

> > > > 029 5666643

> > > > ----- Original Message -----

> > > > From: "Cully Paterson" <Cully@supras.org.nz>

> > > > To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List"

> ><sconz@list.supras.org.nz>

> > > > Sent: Monday, November 29, 2004 1:24 PM

> > > > Subject: RE: [sconz] anyone selling any turbos?

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > > -----Original Message-----

> > > > > From: Hunt M [mailto:5uprah@supras.co.nz]

> > > > > Subject: RE: [sconz] anyone selling any
turbos?

> > > > >

> > > > > Has anyone actually put a CT26 on a 1G with a
good

>result?

> >

> > > > > i.e. over 190-200rwkw?

> > > > > I remember someone made some homemade manifold
set up

>and

> >got

> > > > > like 150-160rwkw at like 14psi or something,
but that

>was

> > > > > with a not so pretty manifold - pile of poo
could be the

>

> >best

> > > > > words to describe it?

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Well your memory isn't entirely crap:

> > > >

>

>
>http://www.supras.org.nz/members/memberdetail.php?member=Robbi_Wright

> > > >

> > > > On the road he was making a lot more boost than
he could

> >crank on the

> > > > dyno, and was genuinely a very quick car.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > ---

> > > > Supra Club of New Zealand -
http://www.supras.org.nz/

> > > > Website sponsored by Alltech Diesel &
Turbocharger

> > > > http://www.turbo.co.nz

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > ---

> > > > Supra Club of New Zealand -
http://www.supras.org.nz/

> > > > Website sponsored by Alltech Diesel &
Turbocharger

> > > > http://www.turbo.co.nz

> > > >

> > >

> > >---

> > >Supra Club of New Zealand -
http://www.supras.org.nz/

> > >Website sponsored by Alltech Diesel & Turbocharger

> >http://www.turbo.co.nz

> >

> > _____

> >

> > Watch movie trailers online with the Xtra Broadband
Channel

> ><http://g.msn.com/8HMBENNZ/2752??PS=47575> ! ---

> > Supra Club of New Zealand -
http://www.supras.org.nz/

> > Website sponsored by Alltech Diesel & Turbocharger

> >http://www.turbo.co.nz

> >

> >

> >---

> >Supra Club of New Zealand - http://www.supras.org.nz/


> >Website sponsored by Alltech Diesel & Turbocharger

>http://www.turbo.co.nz

>

> _____

>

> Check out news, entertainment and more on the Xtra
Broadband

>Channel <http://g.msn.com/8HMBENNZ/2743??PS=47575> ---


> Supra Club of New Zealand - http://www.supras.org.nz/

> Website sponsored by Alltech Diesel & Turbocharger

>http://www.turbo.co.nz

>

>

>---

>Supra Club of New Zealand - http://www.supras.org.nz/

>Website sponsored by Alltech Diesel & Turbocharger
http://www.turbo.co.nz





_____


There's never been a better time to get Xtra JetStream!
<http://g.msn.com/8HMBENNZ/2734??PS=47575> ---
Supra Club of New Zealand - http://www.supras.org.nz/
Website sponsored by Alltech Diesel & Turbocharger
http://www.turbo.co.nz

---
Supra Club of New Zealand - http://www.supras.org.nz/
Website sponsored by Alltech Diesel & Turbocharger
http://www.turbo.co.nz

---
Supra Club of New Zealand - http://www.supras.org.nz/
Website sponsored by Alltech Diesel & Turbocharger
http://www.turbo.co.nz


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RE: anyone selling any turbos?   2004-11-30 12:53:00 <Hunt M>
You just contradicted your self then - you said that he got 158odd rwkw and
it was a genuinely quick car and then you proceeded to claim that the TP's
dyno was reading higher than it should have been - suggesting that his dyno
read was out - perhaps you should either clarify or make your mind up.



Cheers

Hunt

www.supras.co.nz *home to the not so standard 1G-GTE*



_____

From: bounce-38658-72@list.supras.org.nz
[mailto:bounce-38658-72@list.supras.org.nz] On Behalf Of Cully Paterson
Sent: Tuesday, 30 November 2004 12:48 p.m.
To: Supra Club of NZ Mailing List
Subject: RE: [sconz] anyone selling any turbos?



It seems blindingly obvious in the context of the conversation which vehicle
I was talking about, particularly as you were the one who started the
discussion about it.


_____


From: Hunt M [mailto:5uprah@supras.co.nz]
Sent: Tuesday, 30 November 2004 12:21 p.m.
To: SCONZ.list Forward
Subject: RE: [sconz] anyone selling any turbos?

You never stated that when you made you claim to fame about the dyno being
out - you said that it was inaccurate when the test took place but you never
said if it was when Dave's was on it or if it was Robbi's



So you're saying that its not out now? That you know of.



Cheers

Hunt

www.supras.co.nz *home to the not so standard 1G-GTE*




_____


From: bounce-38655-72@list.supras.org.nz
[mailto:bounce-38655-72@list.supras.org.nz] On Behalf Of Cully Paterson
Sent: Tuesday, 30 November 2004 11:41 a.m.
To: Supra Club of NZ Mailing List
Subject: RE: [sconz] anyone selling any turbos?



What was it about "This was three years ago, and only relates to TP's dyno."
that confused you?





_____


From: john shannon [mailto:jshannon55@hotmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, 30 November 2004 11:35 a.m.
To: SCONZ.list Forward
Subject: RE: [sconz] anyone selling any turbos?

why dident you say so 3 years ago, i only had my supra 2 years,

>From: "Cully Paterson" <Cully@supras.org.nz>

>Reply-To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List" <sconz@list.supras.org.nz>

>To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List" <sconz@list.supras.org.nz>

>Subject: RE: [sconz] anyone selling any turbos?

>Date: Tue, 30 Nov 2004 11:32:01 +1300

>

>Are you blind? This was *three*years*ago*. Long before you went

>visiting every dyno in town.

>

>

> _____

>

> From: john shannon [mailto:jshannon55@hotmail.com]

> Sent: Tuesday, 30 November 2004 11:27 a.m.

> To: SCONZ.list Forward

> Subject: RE: [sconz] anyone selling any turbos?

>

>

>

> So thay must of all gone out and got boost contolers.

>

> my car as been on 3 diffrent dynos in a short time and thay have

>read the same power only the torque figer was diffrent.

>

>

>

> >From: "Cully Paterson" <Cully@supras.org.nz>

> >Reply-To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List"

><sconz@list.supras.org.nz>

> >To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List" <sconz@list.supras.org.nz>

> >Subject: RE: [sconz] anyone selling any turbos?

> >Date: Tue, 30 Nov 2004 11:22:05 +1300

> >

> >This was three years ago, and only relates to TP's dyno. There

>was a

> >sudden jump up in everyone's power output not long after we ran

>the

> >SCONZ dyno day there. If you look at the performance car dyno

>day

> >figures around that time they all suddenly get a lot better...

> >

> >

> >

> > _____

> >

> > From: john shannon [mailto:jshannon55@hotmail.com]

> > Sent: Tuesday, 30 November 2004 11:17 a.m.

> > To: SCONZ.list Forward

> > Subject: RE: [sconz] anyone selling any turbos?

> >

> >

> >

> > wrong i have put my car on 3 dynos in one week beyond moter

> >sport and rpm and torque peformance and geuss what thay all

>said the

> >same thing between 298kw and 304kws so thay are all out ?

> >

> >

> >

> > >From: "Cully Paterson" <Cully@supras.org.nz>

> > >Reply-To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List"

> ><sconz@list.supras.org.nz>

> > >To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List"

><sconz@list.supras.org.nz>

> > >Subject: RE: [sconz] anyone selling any turbos?

> > >Date: Tue, 30 Nov 2004 10:49:50 +1300

> > >

> > >Those original results were before Torque Performances dyno

> >took it's

> > >mysterious 'upward plunge' that suddenly gave everyone more

> >power.... I

> > >wouldn't take anything from the figures.

> > >

> > >


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RE: anyone selling any turbos?   2004-11-30 13:11:00 <Cully Paterson>
Logic is obviously another of your weak points.

"There was a sudden jump up in everyone's power output not long after we
ran the SCONZ dyno day there."

If the dyno readings jumped up, then prior to that the readings
were...... come on..... think.... it's not hard......


_____

From: Hunt M [mailto:5uprah@supras.co.nz]
Sent: Tuesday, 30 November 2004 12:53 p.m.
To: SCONZ.list Forward
Subject: RE: [sconz] anyone selling any turbos?



You just contradicted your self then - you said that he got
158odd rwkw and it was a genuinely quick car and then you proceeded to
claim that the TP's dyno was reading higher than it should have been -
suggesting that his dyno read was out - perhaps you should either
clarify or make your mind up.



Cheers

Hunt

www.supras.co.nz *home to the not so standard 1G-GTE*




_____


From: bounce-38658-72@list.supras.org.nz
[mailto:bounce-38658-72@list.supras.org.nz] On Behalf Of Cully Paterson
Sent: Tuesday, 30 November 2004 12:48 p.m.
To: Supra Club of NZ Mailing List
Subject: RE: [sconz] anyone selling any turbos?



It seems blindingly obvious in the context of the conversation
which vehicle I was talking about, particularly as you were the one who
started the discussion about it.


_____


From: Hunt M [mailto:5uprah@supras.co.nz]
Sent: Tuesday, 30 November 2004 12:21 p.m.
To: SCONZ.list Forward
Subject: RE: [sconz] anyone selling any turbos?

You never stated that when you made you claim to fame
about the dyno being out - you said that it was inaccurate when the test
took place but you never said if it was when Dave's was on it or if it
was Robbi's



So you're saying that its not out now? That you know
of...



Cheers

Hunt

www.supras.co.nz *home to the not so standard 1G-GTE*




_____


From: bounce-38655-72@list.supras.org.nz
[mailto:bounce-38655-72@list.supras.org.nz] On Behalf Of Cully Paterson
Sent: Tuesday, 30 November 2004 11:41 a.m.
To: Supra Club of NZ Mailing List
Subject: RE: [sconz] anyone selling any turbos?



What was it about "This was three years ago, and only
relates to TP's dyno." that confused you?





_____


From: john shannon
[mailto:jshannon55@hotmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, 30 November 2004 11:35 a.m.
To: SCONZ.list Forward
Subject: RE: [sconz] anyone selling any turbos?

why dident you say so 3 years ago, i only had my
supra 2 years,

>From: "Cully Paterson" <Cully@supras.org.nz>

>Reply-To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List"
<sconz@list.supras.org.nz>

>To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List"
<sconz@list.supras.org.nz>

>Subject: RE: [sconz] anyone selling any turbos?


>Date: Tue, 30 Nov 2004 11:32:01 +1300

>

>Are you blind? This was *three*years*ago*.
Long before you went

>visiting every dyno in town.

>

>

> _____

>

> From: john shannon
[mailto:jshannon55@hotmail.com]

> Sent: Tuesday, 30 November 2004 11:27 a.m.

> To: SCONZ.list Forward

> Subject: RE: [sconz] anyone selling any
turbos?

>

>

>

> So thay must of all gone out and got boost
contolers.

>

> my car as been on 3 diffrent dynos in a short
time and thay have

>read the same power only the torque figer was
diffrent.

>

>

>

> >From: "Cully Paterson" <Cully@supras.org.nz>

> >Reply-To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List"

><sconz@list.supras.org.nz>

> >To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List"
<sconz@list.supras.org.nz>

> >Subject: RE: [sconz] anyone selling any
turbos?

> >Date: Tue, 30 Nov 2004 11:22:05 +1300

> >

> >This was three years ago, and only relates to
TP's dyno. There

>was a

> >sudden jump up in everyone's power output not
long after we ran

>the

> >SCONZ dyno day there. If you look at the
performance car dyno

>day

> >figures around that time they all suddenly
get a lot better...

> >

> >

> >

> > _____

> >

> > From: john shannon
[mailto:jshannon55@hotmail.com]

> > Sent: Tuesday, 30 November 2004 11:17 a.m.

> > To: SCONZ.list Forward

> > Subject: RE: [sconz] anyone selling any
turbos?

> >

> >

> >

> > wrong i have put my car on 3 dynos in one
week beyond moter

> >sport and rpm and torque peformance and geuss
what thay all

>said the

> >same thing between 298kw and 304kws so thay
are all out ?

> >

> >

> >

> > >From: "Cully Paterson"
<Cully@supras.org.nz>

> > >Reply-To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List"

> ><sconz@list.supras.org.nz>

> > >To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List"

><sconz@list.supras.org.nz>

> > >Subject: RE: [sconz] anyone selling any
turbos?

> > >Date: Tue, 30 Nov 2004 10:49:50 +1300

> > >

> > >Those original results were before Torque
Performances dyno

> >took it's

> > >mysterious 'upward plunge' that suddenly
gave everyone more

> >power.... I

> > >wouldn't take anything from the figures.

> > >

> > >

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Website sponsored by Alltech Diesel & Turbocharger
http://www.turbo.co.nz


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Re: anyone selling any turbos?   2004-11-30 13:22:00 <Suze>
so back to the topic of turbo's.....

my ct26 (to4e)... to be able to relate to the US supra owners i need
to know what trim it is... 46,50, 60? which one is it?
what size wheel does it have in it?

thanks :)

Suze
Reply

RE: anyone selling any turbos?   2004-11-30 15:37:00 <Cully Paterson>


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Suze [mailto:suprra@gmail.com]
> Subject: Re: [sconz] anyone selling any turbos?

> my ct26 (to4e)... to be able to relate to the US supra owners
> i need to know what trim it is... 46,50, 60? which one is it?
> what size wheel does it have in it?

Inducer = 50.9mm, Exducer = 75mm, therefore trim = (50.9/75)*100 = 67.8.


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Re: anyone selling any turbos?   2004-11-30 17:25:00 <Dave Thom>
Err... Hunt... Cully stated that Robbi achieved 158rwkw on the TP dyno, shortly after that the dyno appeared to achieve a sudden unexplained "hike" in power figures. Therefore my reading of 159rwkw is probably "overinflated" as compared to the 158rwkw Robbi achieved with his CT26... are you following the track of the conversation now?

There has been no flaws with what Cully has stated (other than the slightly dubious question of why everyone elses dyno's now read high, but I'd be assuming that can be put down to everyone else following TP's business trend of reporting higher than actual dyno figures for all the plebs out there who like to brag about their power rather than any actual track achievements...) so I can only assume you're getting your wires crossed in the interpretation of what is being discussed...

Hopefully that makes it clearer for you :)

Regards

Dave Thom
IT Engineer
029 5666643
----- Original Message -----
From: Hunt M
To: Supra Club of NZ Mailing List
Sent: Tuesday, November 30, 2004 12:53 PM
Subject: RE: [sconz] anyone selling any turbos?


You just contradicted your self then - you said that he got 158odd rwkw and it was a genuinely quick car and then you proceeded to claim that the TP's dyno was reading higher than it should have been - suggesting that his dyno read was out - perhaps you should either clarify or make your mind up.



Cheers

Hunt

www.supras.co.nz *home to the not so standard 1G-GTE*




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From: bounce-38658-72@list.supras.org.nz [mailto:bounce-38658-72@list.supras.org.nz] On Behalf Of Cully Paterson
Sent: Tuesday, 30 November 2004 12:48 p.m.
To: Supra Club of NZ Mailing List
Subject: RE: [sconz] anyone selling any turbos?



It seems blindingly obvious in the context of the conversation which vehicle I was talking about, particularly as you were the one who started the discussion about it.


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From: Hunt M [mailto:5uprah@supras.co.nz]
Sent: Tuesday, 30 November 2004 12:21 p.m.
To: SCONZ.list Forward
Subject: RE: [sconz] anyone selling any turbos?

You never stated that when you made you claim to fame about the dyno being out - you said that it was inaccurate when the test took place but you never said if it was when Dave's was on it or if it was Robbi's



So you're saying that its not out now? That you know of.



Cheers

Hunt

www.supras.co.nz *home to the not so standard 1G-GTE*




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From: bounce-38655-72@list.supras.org.nz [mailto:bounce-38655-72@list.supras.org.nz] On Behalf Of Cully Paterson
Sent: Tuesday, 30 November 2004 11:41 a.m.
To: Supra Club of NZ Mailing List
Subject: RE: [sconz] anyone selling any turbos?



What was it about "This was three years ago, and only relates to TP's dyno." that confused you?





--------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: john shannon [mailto:jshannon55@hotmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, 30 November 2004 11:35 a.m.
To: SCONZ.list Forward
Subject: RE: [sconz] anyone selling any turbos?

why dident you say so 3 years ago, i only had my supra 2 years,

>From: "Cully Paterson" <Cully@supras.org.nz>

>Reply-To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List" <sconz@list.supras.org.nz>

>To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List" <sconz@list.supras.org.nz>

>Subject: RE: [sconz] anyone selling any turbos?

>Date: Tue, 30 Nov 2004 11:32:01 +1300

>

>Are you blind? This was *three*years*ago*. Long before you went

>visiting every dyno in town.

>

>

> _____

>

> From: john shannon [mailto:jshannon55@hotmail.com]

> Sent: Tuesday, 30 November 2004 11:27 a.m.

> To: SCONZ.list Forward

> Subject: RE: [sconz] anyone selling any turbos?

>

>

>

> So thay must of all gone out and got boost contolers.

>

> my car as been on 3 diffrent dynos in a short time and thay have

>read the same power only the torque figer was diffrent.

>

>

>

> >From: "Cully Paterson" <Cully@supras.org.nz>

> >Reply-To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List"

><sconz@list.supras.org.nz>

> >To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List" <sconz@list.supras.org.nz>

> >Subject: RE: [sconz] anyone selling any turbos?

> >Date: Tue, 30 Nov 2004 11:22:05 +1300

> >

> >This was three years ago, and only relates to TP's dyno. There

>was a

> >sudden jump up in everyone's power output not long after we ran

>the

> >SCONZ dyno day there. If you look at the performance car dyno

>day

> >figures around that time they all suddenly get a lot better...

> >

> >

> >

> > _____

> >

> > From: john shannon [mailto:jshannon55@hotmail.com]

> > Sent: Tuesday, 30 November 2004 11:17 a.m.

> > To: SCONZ.list Forward

> > Subject: RE: [sconz] anyone selling any turbos?

> >

> >

> >

> > wrong i have put my car on 3 dynos in one week beyond moter

> >sport and rpm and torque peformance and geuss what thay all

>said the

> >same thing between 298kw and 304kws so thay are all out ?

> >

> >

> >

> > >From: "Cully Paterson" <Cully@supras.org.nz>

> > >Reply-To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List"

> ><sconz@list.supras.org.nz>

> > >To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List"

><sconz@list.supras.org.nz>

> > >Subject: RE: [sconz] anyone selling any turbos?

> > >Date: Tue, 30 Nov 2004 10:49:50 +1300

> > >

> > >Those original results were before Torque Performances dyno

> >took it's

> > >mysterious 'upward plunge' that suddenly gave everyone more

> >power.... I

> > >wouldn't take anything from the figures.

> > >

> > >

---
Supra Club of New Zealand - http://www.supras.org.nz/
Website sponsored by Alltech Diesel & Turbocharger http://www.turbo.co.nz

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RE: anyone selling any turbos?   2004-11-30 17:29:00 <Hunt M>
Errr Dave...I managed to get 159rwkw on 12psi out of my 1G with my water to
air intercooler - its not like the same isn't possible for you with an even
better style intercooler.



And I don't think that TP's dyno is still giving higher that actually
figures - this kind of thing is called progress - if I was putting out
159rwkw and 2 years later got the same after doing mods I'd be concerned..



From what I've gathered - TP's dyno was out shortly AFTER Robbi's 1G was
put on - I don't believe it is still out and I don't believe that any
figures over the last year are inaccurate.



Cheers

Hunt

www.supras.co.nz *home to the not so standard 1G-GTE*



_____

From: bounce-38668-72@list.supras.org.nz
[mailto:bounce-38668-72@list.supras.org.nz] On Behalf Of Dave Thom
Sent: Tuesday, 30 November 2004 5:25 p.m.
To: Supra Club of NZ Mailing List
Subject: Re: [sconz] anyone selling any turbos?



Err... Hunt... Cully stated that Robbi achieved 158rwkw on the TP dyno,
shortly after that the dyno appeared to achieve a sudden unexplained "hike"
in power figures. Therefore my reading of 159rwkw is probably
"overinflated" as compared to the 158rwkw Robbi achieved with his CT26...
are you following the track of the conversation now?



There has been no flaws with what Cully has stated (other than the slightly
dubious question of why everyone elses dyno's now read high, but I'd be
assuming that can be put down to everyone else following TP's business trend
of reporting higher than actual dyno figures for all the plebs out there who
like to brag about their power rather than any actual track achievements...)
so I can only assume you're getting your wires crossed in the interpretation
of what is being discussed...



Hopefully that makes it clearer for you :)


Regards



Dave Thom
IT Engineer
029 5666643

----- Original Message -----

From: Hunt M <mailto:5uprah@supras.co.nz>

To: Supra <mailto:sconz@list.supras.org.nz> Club of NZ Mailing List

Sent: Tuesday, November 30, 2004 12:53 PM

Subject: RE: [sconz] anyone selling any turbos?



You just contradicted your self then - you said that he got 158odd rwkw and
it was a genuinely quick car and then you proceeded to claim that the TP's
dyno was reading higher than it should have been - suggesting that his dyno
read was out - perhaps you should either clarify or make your mind up.



Cheers

Hunt

www.supras.co.nz *home to the not so standard 1G-GTE*




_____


From: bounce-38658-72@list.supras.org.nz
[mailto:bounce-38658-72@list.supras.org.nz] On Behalf Of Cully Paterson
Sent: Tuesday, 30 November 2004 12:48 p.m.
To: Supra Club of NZ Mailing List
Subject: RE: [sconz] anyone selling any turbos?



It seems blindingly obvious in the context of the conversation which vehicle
I was talking about, particularly as you were the one who started the
discussion about it.


_____


From: Hunt M [mailto:5uprah@supras.co.nz]
Sent: Tuesday, 30 November 2004 12:21 p.m.
To: SCONZ.list Forward
Subject: RE: [sconz] anyone selling any turbos?

You never stated that when you made you claim to fame about the dyno being
out - you said that it was inaccurate when the test took place but you never
said if it was when Dave's was on it or if it was Robbi's



So you're saying that its not out now? That you know of.



Cheers

Hunt

www.supras.co.nz *home to the not so standard 1G-GTE*




_____


From: bounce-38655-72@list.supras.org.nz
[mailto:bounce-38655-72@list.supras.org.nz] On Behalf Of Cully Paterson
Sent: Tuesday, 30 November 2004 11:41 a.m.
To: Supra Club of NZ Mailing List
Subject: RE: [sconz] anyone selling any turbos?



What was it about "This was three years ago, and only relates to TP's dyno."
that confused you?





_____


From: john shannon [mailto:jshannon55@hotmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, 30 November 2004 11:35 a.m.
To: SCONZ.list Forward
Subject: RE: [sconz] anyone selling any turbos?

why dident you say so 3 years ago, i only had my supra 2 years,

>From: "Cully Paterson" <Cully@supras.org.nz>

>Reply-To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List" <sconz@list.supras.org.nz>

>To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List" <sconz@list.supras.org.nz>

>Subject: RE: [sconz] anyone selling any turbos?

>Date: Tue, 30 Nov 2004 11:32:01 +1300

>

>Are you blind? This was *three*years*ago*. Long before you went

>visiting every dyno in town.

>

>

> _____

>

> From: john shannon [mailto:jshannon55@hotmail.com]

> Sent: Tuesday, 30 November 2004 11:27 a.m.

> To: SCONZ.list Forward

> Subject: RE: [sconz] anyone selling any turbos?

>

>

>

> So thay must of all gone out and got boost contolers.

>

> my car as been on 3 diffrent dynos in a short time and thay have

>read the same power only the torque figer was diffrent.

>

>

>

> >From: "Cully Paterson" <Cully@supras.org.nz>

> >Reply-To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List"

><sconz@list.supras.org.nz>

> >To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List" <sconz@list.supras.org.nz>

> >Subject: RE: [sconz] anyone selling any turbos?

> >Date: Tue, 30 Nov 2004 11:22:05 +1300

> >

> >This was three years ago, and only relates to TP's dyno. There

>was a

> >sudden jump up in everyone's power output not long after we ran

>the

> >SCONZ dyno day there. If you look at the performance car dyno

>day

> >figures around that time they all suddenly get a lot better...

> >

> >

> >

> > _____

> >

> > From: john shannon [mailto:jshannon55@hotmail.com]

> > Sent: Tuesday, 30 November 2004 11:17 a.m.

> > To: SCONZ.list Forward

> > Subject: RE: [sconz] anyone selling any turbos?

> >

> >

> >

> > wrong i have put my car on 3 dynos in one week beyond moter

> >sport and rpm and torque peformance and geuss what thay all

>said the

> >same thing between 298kw and 304kws so thay are all out ?

> >

> >

> >

> > >From: "Cully Paterson" <Cully@supras.org.nz>

> > >Reply-To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List"

> ><sconz@list.supras.org.nz>

> > >To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List"

><sconz@list.supras.org.nz>

> > >Subject: RE: [sconz] anyone selling any turbos?

> > >Date: Tue, 30 Nov 2004 10:49:50 +1300

> > >

> > >Those original results were before Torque Performances dyno

> >took it's

> > >mysterious 'upward plunge' that suddenly gave everyone more

> >power.... I

> > >wouldn't take anything from the figures.

> > >

> > >

---
Supra Club of New Zealand - http://www.supras.org.nz/
Website sponsored by Alltech Diesel & Turbocharger http://www.turbo.co.nz

---
Supra Club of New Zealand - http://www.supras.org.nz/
Website sponsored by Alltech Diesel & Turbocharger http://www.turbo.co.nz


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Re: anyone selling any turbos?   2004-11-30 17:46:00 <Dave Thom>
Then the same comment of mine stands, what am I doing wrong that I dyno'd at 157rwkw and my car doesn't even chirp into 2nd gear, let alone 3rd, yet you and Robbi dyno'd at a phenomenal 2kw more and you can both chirp into 3rd (speaking historically in Robbi's case...)

Regards

Dave Thom
IT Engineer
029 5666643
----- Original Message -----
From: Hunt M
To: Supra Club of NZ Mailing List
Sent: Tuesday, November 30, 2004 5:28 PM
Subject: RE: [sconz] anyone selling any turbos?


Errr Dave...I managed to get 159rwkw on 12psi out of my 1G with my water to air intercooler - its not like the same isn't possible for you with an even better style intercooler.



And I don't think that TP's dyno is still giving higher that actually figures - this kind of thing is called progress - if I was putting out 159rwkw and 2 years later got the same after doing mods I'd be concerned..



From what I've gathered - TP's dyno was out shortly AFTER Robbi's 1G was put on - I don't believe it is still out and I don't believe that any figures over the last year are inaccurate.



Cheers

Hunt

www.supras.co.nz *home to the not so standard 1G-GTE*




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From: bounce-38668-72@list.supras.org.nz [mailto:bounce-38668-72@list.supras.org.nz] On Behalf Of Dave Thom
Sent: Tuesday, 30 November 2004 5:25 p.m.
To: Supra Club of NZ Mailing List
Subject: Re: [sconz] anyone selling any turbos?



Err... Hunt... Cully stated that Robbi achieved 158rwkw on the TP dyno, shortly after that the dyno appeared to achieve a sudden unexplained "hike" in power figures. Therefore my reading of 159rwkw is probably "overinflated" as compared to the 158rwkw Robbi achieved with his CT26... are you following the track of the conversation now?



There has been no flaws with what Cully has stated (other than the slightly dubious question of why everyone elses dyno's now read high, but I'd be assuming that can be put down to everyone else following TP's business trend of reporting higher than actual dyno figures for all the plebs out there who like to brag about their power rather than any actual track achievements...) so I can only assume you're getting your wires crossed in the interpretation of what is being discussed...



Hopefully that makes it clearer for you :)


Regards



Dave Thom
IT Engineer
029 5666643

----- Original Message -----

From: Hunt M

To: Supra Club of NZ Mailing List

Sent: Tuesday, November 30, 2004 12:53 PM

Subject: RE: [sconz] anyone selling any turbos?



You just contradicted your self then - you said that he got 158odd rwkw and it was a genuinely quick car and then you proceeded to claim that the TP's dyno was reading higher than it should have been - suggesting that his dyno read was out - perhaps you should either clarify or make your mind up.



Cheers

Hunt

www.supras.co.nz *home to the not so standard 1G-GTE*




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From: bounce-38658-72@list.supras.org.nz [mailto:bounce-38658-72@list.supras.org.nz] On Behalf Of Cully Paterson
Sent: Tuesday, 30 November 2004 12:48 p.m.
To: Supra Club of NZ Mailing List
Subject: RE: [sconz] anyone selling any turbos?



It seems blindingly obvious in the context of the conversation which vehicle I was talking about, particularly as you were the one who started the discussion about it.


--------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: Hunt M [mailto:5uprah@supras.co.nz]
Sent: Tuesday, 30 November 2004 12:21 p.m.
To: SCONZ.list Forward
Subject: RE: [sconz] anyone selling any turbos?

You never stated that when you made you claim to fame about the dyno being out - you said that it was inaccurate when the test took place but you never said if it was when Dave's was on it or if it was Robbi's



So you're saying that its not out now? That you know of.



Cheers

Hunt

www.supras.co.nz *home to the not so standard 1G-GTE*




--------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: bounce-38655-72@list.supras.org.nz [mailto:bounce-38655-72@list.supras.org.nz] On Behalf Of Cully Paterson
Sent: Tuesday, 30 November 2004 11:41 a.m.
To: Supra Club of NZ Mailing List
Subject: RE: [sconz] anyone selling any turbos?



What was it about "This was three years ago, and only relates to TP's dyno." that confused you?





------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: john shannon [mailto:jshannon55@hotmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, 30 November 2004 11:35 a.m.
To: SCONZ.list Forward
Subject: RE: [sconz] anyone selling any turbos?

why dident you say so 3 years ago, i only had my supra 2 years,

>From: "Cully Paterson" <Cully@supras.org.nz>

>Reply-To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List" <sconz@list.supras.org.nz>

>To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List" <sconz@list.supras.org.nz>

>Subject: RE: [sconz] anyone selling any turbos?

>Date: Tue, 30 Nov 2004 11:32:01 +1300

>

>Are you blind? This was *three*years*ago*. Long before you went

>visiting every dyno in town.

>

>

> _____

>

> From: john shannon [mailto:jshannon55@hotmail.com]

> Sent: Tuesday, 30 November 2004 11:27 a.m.

> To: SCONZ.list Forward

> Subject: RE: [sconz] anyone selling any turbos?

>

>

>

> So thay must of all gone out and got boost contolers.

>

> my car as been on 3 diffrent dynos in a short time and thay have

>read the same power only the torque figer was diffrent.

>

>

>

> >From: "Cully Paterson" <Cully@supras.org.nz>

> >Reply-To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List"

><sconz@list.supras.org.nz>

> >To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List" <sconz@list.supras.org.nz>

> >Subject: RE: [sconz] anyone selling any turbos?

> >Date: Tue, 30 Nov 2004 11:22:05 +1300

> >

> >This was three years ago, and only relates to TP's dyno. There

>was a

> >sudden jump up in everyone's power output not long after we ran

>the

> >SCONZ dyno day there. If you look at the performance car dyno

>day

> >figures around that time they all suddenly get a lot better...

> >

> >

> >

> > _____

> >

> > From: john shannon [mailto:jshannon55@hotmail.com]

> > Sent: Tuesday, 30 November 2004 11:17 a.m.

> > To: SCONZ.list Forward

> > Subject: RE: [sconz] anyone selling any turbos?

> >

> >

> >

> > wrong i have put my car on 3 dynos in one week beyond moter

> >sport and rpm and torque peformance and geuss what thay all

>said the

> >same thing between 298kw and 304kws so thay are all out ?

> >

> >

> >

> > >From: "Cully Paterson" <Cully@supras.org.nz>

> > >Reply-To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List"

> ><sconz@list.supras.org.nz>

> > >To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List"

><sconz@list.supras.org.nz>

> > >Subject: RE: [sconz] anyone selling any turbos?

> > >Date: Tue, 30 Nov 2004 10:49:50 +1300

> > >

> > >Those original results were before Torque Performances dyno

> >took it's

> > >mysterious 'upward plunge' that suddenly gave everyone more

> >power.... I

> > >wouldn't take anything from the figures.

> > >

> > >

---
Supra Club of New Zealand - http://www.supras.org.nz/
Website sponsored by Alltech Diesel & Turbocharger http://www.turbo.co.nz

---
Supra Club of New Zealand - http://www.supras.org.nz/
Website sponsored by Alltech Diesel & Turbocharger http://www.turbo.co.nz

---
Supra Club of New Zealand - http://www.supras.org.nz/
Website sponsored by Alltech Diesel & Turbocharger http://www.turbo.co.nz

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Re: anyone selling any turbos?   2004-11-30 18:03:00 <qzm>
On Tue, 30 Nov 2004 17:45:33 +1300, Dave Thom <supras@boost.org.nz> wrote:
>
> Then the same comment of mine stands, what am I doing wrong that I dyno'd at
> 157rwkw and my car doesn't even chirp into 2nd gear, let alone 3rd, yet you
> and Robbi dyno'd at a phenomenal 2kw more and you can both chirp into 3rd
> (speaking historically in Robbi's case...)

I suggest buying cheaper tires and learning how not to use a clutch :P

Regards,
Stuart W.
Reply

Re: anyone selling any turbos?   2004-11-30 20:38:00 <Suze>
k soooo i say mine is a 67trim? i thought the biggest was 62-1? or
have i got things crossed up lol


On Tue, 30 Nov 2004 15:36:31 +1300, Cully Paterson <cully@supras.org.nz> wrote:
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Suze [mailto:suprra@gmail.com]
> > Subject: Re: [sconz] anyone selling any turbos?
>
> > my ct26 (to4e)... to be able to relate to the US supra owners
> > i need to know what trim it is... 46,50, 60? which one is it?
> > what size wheel does it have in it?
>
> Inducer = 50.9mm, Exducer = 75mm, therefore trim = (50.9/75)*100 = 67.8.
>
> ---
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> Website sponsored by Alltech Diesel & Turbocharger http://www.turbo.co.nz
>


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RE: anyone selling any turbos?   2004-12-01 01:08:00 <Hunt M>
I have 205 tires and I don't change gear's like a nanna??



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From: bounce-38670-72@list.supras.org.nz
[mailto:bounce-38670-72@list.supras.org.nz] On Behalf Of Dave Thom
Sent: Tuesday, November 30, 2004 5:46 PM
To: Supra Club of NZ Mailing List
Subject: Re: [sconz] anyone selling any turbos?



Then the same comment of mine stands, what am I doing wrong that I dyno'd at
157rwkw and my car doesn't even chirp into 2nd gear, let alone 3rd, yet you
and Robbi dyno'd at a phenomenal 2kw more and you can both chirp into 3rd
(speaking historically in Robbi's case...)


Regards



Dave Thom
IT Engineer
029 5666643

----- Original Message -----

From: Hunt M <mailto:5uprah@supras.co.nz>

To: Supra <mailto:sconz@list.supras.org.nz> Club of NZ Mailing List

Sent: Tuesday, November 30, 2004 5:28 PM

Subject: RE: [sconz] anyone selling any turbos?



Errr Dave...I managed to get 159rwkw on 12psi out of my 1G with my water to
air intercooler - its not like the same isn't possible for you with an even
better style intercooler.



And I don't think that TP's dyno is still giving higher that actually
figures - this kind of thing is called progress - if I was putting out
159rwkw and 2 years later got the same after doing mods I'd be concerned..



From what I've gathered - TP's dyno was out shortly AFTER Robbi's 1G was
put on - I don't believe it is still out and I don't believe that any
figures over the last year are inaccurate.



Cheers

Hunt

www.supras.co.nz *home to the not so standard 1G-GTE*




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From: bounce-38668-72@list.supras.org.nz
[mailto:bounce-38668-72@list.supras.org.nz] On Behalf Of Dave Thom
Sent: Tuesday, 30 November 2004 5:25 p.m.
To: Supra Club of NZ Mailing List
Subject: Re: [sconz] anyone selling any turbos?



Err... Hunt... Cully stated that Robbi achieved 158rwkw on the TP dyno,
shortly after that the dyno appeared to achieve a sudden unexplained "hike"
in power figures. Therefore my reading of 159rwkw is probably
"overinflated" as compared to the 158rwkw Robbi achieved with his CT26...
are you following the track of the conversation now?



There has been no flaws with what Cully has stated (other than the slightly
dubious question of why everyone elses dyno's now read high, but I'd be
assuming that can be put down to everyone else following TP's business trend
of reporting higher than actual dyno figures for all the plebs out there who
like to brag about their power rather than any actual track achievements...)
so I can only assume you're getting your wires crossed in the interpretation
of what is being discussed...



Hopefully that makes it clearer for you :)


Regards



Dave Thom
IT Engineer
029 5666643

----- Original Message -----

From: Hunt M <mailto:5uprah@supras.co.nz>

To: Supra <mailto:sconz@list.supras.org.nz> Club of NZ Mailing List

Sent: Tuesday, November 30, 2004 12:53 PM

Subject: RE: [sconz] anyone selling any turbos?



You just contradicted your self then - you said that he got 158odd rwkw and
it was a genuinely quick car and then you proceeded to claim that the TP's
dyno was reading higher than it should have been - suggesting that his dyno
read was out - perhaps you should either clarify or make your mind up.



Cheers

Hunt

www.supras.co.nz *home to the not so standard 1G-GTE*




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From: bounce-38658-72@list.supras.org.nz
[mailto:bounce-38658-72@list.supras.org.nz] On Behalf Of Cully Paterson
Sent: Tuesday, 30 November 2004 12:48 p.m.
To: Supra Club of NZ Mailing List
Subject: RE: [sconz] anyone selling any turbos?



It seems blindingly obvious in the context of the conversation which vehicle
I was talking about, particularly as you were the one who started the
discussion about it.


_____


From: Hunt M [mailto:5uprah@supras.co.nz]
Sent: Tuesday, 30 November 2004 12:21 p.m.
To: SCONZ.list Forward
Subject: RE: [sconz] anyone selling any turbos?

You never stated that when you made you claim to fame about the dyno being
out - you said that it was inaccurate when the test took place but you never
said if it was when Dave's was on it or if it was Robbi's



So you're saying that its not out now? That you know of.



Cheers

Hunt

www.supras.co.nz *home to the not so standard 1G-GTE*




_____


From: bounce-38655-72@list.supras.org.nz
[mailto:bounce-38655-72@list.supras.org.nz] On Behalf Of Cully Paterson
Sent: Tuesday, 30 November 2004 11:41 a.m.
To: Supra Club of NZ Mailing List
Subject: RE: [sconz] anyone selling any turbos?



What was it about "This was three years ago, and only relates to TP's dyno."
that confused you?





_____


From: john shannon [mailto:jshannon55@hotmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, 30 November 2004 11:35 a.m.
To: SCONZ.list Forward
Subject: RE: [sconz] anyone selling any turbos?

why dident you say so 3 years ago, i only had my supra 2 years,

>From: "Cully Paterson" <Cully@supras.org.nz>

>Reply-To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List" <sconz@list.supras.org.nz>

>To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List" <sconz@list.supras.org.nz>

>Subject: RE: [sconz] anyone selling any turbos?

>Date: Tue, 30 Nov 2004 11:32:01 +1300

>

>Are you blind? This was *three*years*ago*. Long before you went

>visiting every dyno in town.

>

>

> _____

>

> From: john shannon [mailto:jshannon55@hotmail.com]

> Sent: Tuesday, 30 November 2004 11:27 a.m.

> To: SCONZ.list Forward

> Subject: RE: [sconz] anyone selling any turbos?

>

>

>

> So thay must of all gone out and got boost contolers.

>

> my car as been on 3 diffrent dynos in a short time and thay have

>read the same power only the torque figer was diffrent.

>

>

>

> >From: "Cully Paterson" <Cully@supras.org.nz>

> >Reply-To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List"

><sconz@list.supras.org.nz>

> >To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List" <sconz@list.supras.org.nz>

> >Subject: RE: [sconz] anyone selling any turbos?

> >Date: Tue, 30 Nov 2004 11:22:05 +1300

> >

> >This was three years ago, and only relates to TP's dyno. There

>was a

> >sudden jump up in everyone's power output not long after we ran

>the

> >SCONZ dyno day there. If you look at the performance car dyno

>day

> >figures around that time they all suddenly get a lot better...

> >

> >

> >

> > _____

> >

> > From: john shannon [mailto:jshannon55@hotmail.com]

> > Sent: Tuesday, 30 November 2004 11:17 a.m.

> > To: SCONZ.list Forward

> > Subject: RE: [sconz] anyone selling any turbos?

> >

> >

> >

> > wrong i have put my car on 3 dynos in one week beyond moter

> >sport and rpm and torque peformance and geuss what thay all

>said the

> >same thing between 298kw and 304kws so thay are all out ?

> >

> >

> >

> > >From: "Cully Paterson" <Cully@supras.org.nz>

> > >Reply-To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List"

> ><sconz@list.supras.org.nz>

> > >To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List"

><sconz@list.supras.org.nz>

> > >Subject: RE: [sconz] anyone selling any turbos?

> > >Date: Tue, 30 Nov 2004 10:49:50 +1300

> > >

> > >Those original results were before Torque Performances dyno

> >took it's

> > >mysterious 'upward plunge' that suddenly gave everyone more

> >power.... I

> > >wouldn't take anything from the figures.

> > >

> > >

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RE: anyone selling any turbos?   2004-12-01 09:20:00 <Cully Paterson>
Sorry, wrong formula. 46 trim.


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Suze [mailto:suprra@gmail.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, 30 November 2004 8:38 p.m.
> To: SCONZ.list Forward
> Subject: Re: [sconz] anyone selling any turbos?
>
> k soooo i say mine is a 67trim? i thought the biggest was
> 62-1? or have i got things crossed up lol
>
>
> On Tue, 30 Nov 2004 15:36:31 +1300, Cully Paterson
> <cully@supras.org.nz> wrote:
> >
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Suze [mailto:suprra@gmail.com]
> > > Subject: Re: [sconz] anyone selling any turbos?
> >
> > > my ct26 (to4e)... to be able to relate to the US supra
> owners i need
> > > to know what trim it is... 46,50, 60? which one is it?
> > > what size wheel does it have in it?
> >
> > Inducer = 50.9mm, Exducer = 75mm, therefore trim =
> (50.9/75)*100 = 67.8.
> >
> > ---
> > Supra Club of New Zealand - http://www.supras.org.nz/ Website
> > sponsored by Alltech Diesel & Turbocharger http://www.turbo.co.nz
> >
>
>
> --
> Cheers
>
> Suze
> The Real Deal Hack Machine ;)
> www.supra.co.nz
>
> ---
> Supra Club of New Zealand - http://www.supras.org.nz/ Website
> sponsored by Alltech Diesel & Turbocharger http://www.turbo.co.nz
>
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RE: anyone selling any turbos?   2004-12-01 09:26:00 <Cully Paterson>



From: Hunt M [mailto:5uprah@supras.co.nz]
Subject: RE: [sconz] anyone selling any turbos?


>And I don't think that TP's dyno is still giving higher that
>actually figures - this kind of thing is called progress - if
>I was putting out 159rwkw and 2 years later got the same after
>doing mods I'd be concerned....

>From what I've gathered - TP's dyno was out shortly AFTER Robbi's
> 1G was put on - I don't believe it is still out and I don't
>believe that any figures over the last year are inaccurate.


Oh jesus. Once again you run head long at logic and come off second
best.

*The*Dyno*Used*To*Read*Low*Now*It*Doesn't*




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RE: anyone selling any turbos?   2004-12-01 09:26:00 <Peter Nield \(DSL AK\)>
ratio of the areas, right?

-----Original Message-----
From: bounce-38683-33@list.supras.org.nz
[mailto:bounce-38683-33@list.supras.org.nz] On Behalf Of Cully Paterson
Sent: Wednesday, 1 December 2004 9:20
To: Supra Club of NZ Mailing List
Subject: RE: [sconz] anyone selling any turbos?

Sorry, wrong formula. 46 trim.


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Suze [mailto:suprra@gmail.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, 30 November 2004 8:38 p.m.
> To: SCONZ.list Forward
> Subject: Re: [sconz] anyone selling any turbos?
>
> k soooo i say mine is a 67trim? i thought the biggest was 62-1? or
> have i got things crossed up lol
>
>
> On Tue, 30 Nov 2004 15:36:31 +1300, Cully Paterson
> <cully@supras.org.nz> wrote:
> >
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Suze [mailto:suprra@gmail.com]
> > > Subject: Re: [sconz] anyone selling any turbos?
> >
> > > my ct26 (to4e)... to be able to relate to the US supra
> owners i need
> > > to know what trim it is... 46,50, 60? which one is it?
> > > what size wheel does it have in it?
> >
> > Inducer = 50.9mm, Exducer = 75mm, therefore trim =
> (50.9/75)*100 = 67.8.
> >
> > ---
> > Supra Club of New Zealand - http://www.supras.org.nz/ Website
> > sponsored by Alltech Diesel & Turbocharger http://www.turbo.co.nz
> >
>
>
> --
> Cheers
>
> Suze
> The Real Deal Hack Machine ;)
> www.supra.co.nz
>
> ---
> Supra Club of New Zealand - http://www.supras.org.nz/ Website
> sponsored by Alltech Diesel & Turbocharger http://www.turbo.co.nz
>

---
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RE: anyone selling any turbos?   2004-12-01 09:32:00 <Cully Paterson>
As it happens, yes. Easier to consider it as the difference between
inducer and exducer diameters as a percentage of the exducer (ie how
big the step is at the back as a proportion of the overall size).

I was using the exducer size, rather than the size difference - doh!

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Peter Nield (DSL AK) [mailto:PeterN@datacom.co.nz]
> Sent: Wednesday, 1 December 2004 9:26 a.m.
> To: SCONZ.list Forward
> Subject: RE: [sconz] anyone selling any turbos?
>
> ratio of the areas, right?
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: bounce-38683-33@list.supras.org.nz
> [mailto:bounce-38683-33@list.supras.org.nz] On Behalf Of
> Cully Paterson
> Sent: Wednesday, 1 December 2004 9:20
> To: Supra Club of NZ Mailing List
> Subject: RE: [sconz] anyone selling any turbos?
>
> Sorry, wrong formula. 46 trim.
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Suze [mailto:suprra@gmail.com]
> > Sent: Tuesday, 30 November 2004 8:38 p.m.
> > To: SCONZ.list Forward
> > Subject: Re: [sconz] anyone selling any turbos?
> >
> > k soooo i say mine is a 67trim? i thought the biggest was 62-1? or
> > have i got things crossed up lol
> >
> >
> > On Tue, 30 Nov 2004 15:36:31 +1300, Cully Paterson
> > <cully@supras.org.nz> wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: Suze [mailto:suprra@gmail.com]
> > > > Subject: Re: [sconz] anyone selling any turbos?
> > >
> > > > my ct26 (to4e)... to be able to relate to the US supra
> > owners i need
> > > > to know what trim it is... 46,50, 60? which one is it?
> > > > what size wheel does it have in it?
> > >
> > > Inducer = 50.9mm, Exducer = 75mm, therefore trim =
> > (50.9/75)*100 = 67.8.
> > >
> > > ---
> > > Supra Club of New Zealand - http://www.supras.org.nz/ Website
> > > sponsored by Alltech Diesel & Turbocharger http://www.turbo.co.nz
> > >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Cheers
> >
> > Suze
> > The Real Deal Hack Machine ;)
> > www.supra.co.nz
> >
> > ---
> > Supra Club of New Zealand - http://www.supras.org.nz/ Website
> > sponsored by Alltech Diesel & Turbocharger http://www.turbo.co.nz
> >
>
> ---
> Supra Club of New Zealand - http://www.supras.org.nz/ Website
> sponsored by Alltech Diesel & Turbocharger http://www.turbo.co.nz
>
> ---
> Supra Club of New Zealand - http://www.supras.org.nz/ Website
> sponsored by Alltech Diesel & Turbocharger http://www.turbo.co.nz
>
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Re: anyone selling any turbos?   2004-12-01 10:37:00 <Suze>
so isn't that one of the smallest to4 wheels? i mean... what's before
46trim? stock?
lol
oh well at least i got boost & power :)

Cheers

Suze


On Wed, 1 Dec 2004 09:31:42 +1300, Cully Paterson <cully@supras.org.nz> wrote:
> As it happens, yes. Easier to consider it as the difference between
> inducer and exducer diameters as a percentage of the exducer (ie how
> big the step is at the back as a proportion of the overall size).
>
> I was using the exducer size, rather than the size difference - doh!
>
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Peter Nield (DSL AK) [mailto:PeterN@datacom.co.nz]
> > Sent: Wednesday, 1 December 2004 9:26 a.m.
> > To: SCONZ.list Forward
> > Subject: RE: [sconz] anyone selling any turbos?
> >
> > ratio of the areas, right?
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: bounce-38683-33@list.supras.org.nz
> > [mailto:bounce-38683-33@list.supras.org.nz] On Behalf Of
> > Cully Paterson
> > Sent: Wednesday, 1 December 2004 9:20
> > To: Supra Club of NZ Mailing List
> > Subject: RE: [sconz] anyone selling any turbos?
> >
> > Sorry, wrong formula. 46 trim.
> >
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Suze [mailto:suprra@gmail.com]
> > > Sent: Tuesday, 30 November 2004 8:38 p.m.
> > > To: SCONZ.list Forward
> > > Subject: Re: [sconz] anyone selling any turbos?
> > >
> > > k soooo i say mine is a 67trim? i thought the biggest was 62-1? or
> > > have i got things crossed up lol
> > >
> > >
> > > On Tue, 30 Nov 2004 15:36:31 +1300, Cully Paterson
> > > <cully@supras.org.nz> wrote:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From: Suze [mailto:suprra@gmail.com]
> > > > > Subject: Re: [sconz] anyone selling any turbos?
> > > >
> > > > > my ct26 (to4e)... to be able to relate to the US supra
> > > owners i need
> > > > > to know what trim it is... 46,50, 60? which one is it?
> > > > > what size wheel does it have in it?
> > > >
> > > > Inducer = 50.9mm, Exducer = 75mm, therefore trim =
> > > (50.9/75)*100 = 67.8.
> > > >
> > > > ---
> > > > Supra Club of New Zealand - http://www.supras.org.nz/ Website
> > > > sponsored by Alltech Diesel & Turbocharger http://www.turbo.co.nz
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > Cheers
> > >
> > > Suze
> > > The Real Deal Hack Machine ;)
> > > www.supra.co.nz
> > >
> > > ---
> > > Supra Club of New Zealand - http://www.supras.org.nz/ Website
> > > sponsored by Alltech Diesel & Turbocharger http://www.turbo.co.nz
> > >
> >
> > ---
> > Supra Club of New Zealand - http://www.supras.org.nz/ Website
> > sponsored by Alltech Diesel & Turbocharger http://www.turbo.co.nz
> >
> > ---
> > Supra Club of New Zealand - http://www.supras.org.nz/ Website
> > sponsored by Alltech Diesel & Turbocharger http://www.turbo.co.nz
> >
>
> ---
> Supra Club of New Zealand - http://www.supras.org.nz/
> Website sponsored by Alltech Diesel & Turbocharger http://www.turbo.co.nz
>


--
Cheers

Suze
The Real Deal Hack Machine ;)
www.supra.co.nz
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RE: anyone selling any turbos?   2004-12-01 10:46:00 <Cully Paterson>

OK, bring it back and we'll put on a wheel with a smaller inducer, then
you can wank on all you like about how big your trim is. :-P

In case you can't figure that out, trim is *relative*. It's a
proportion. It has nothing to do with overall size.


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Suze [mailto:suprra@gmail.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, 1 December 2004 10:37 a.m.
> To: SCONZ.list Forward
> Subject: Re: [sconz] anyone selling any turbos?
>
> so isn't that one of the smallest to4 wheels? i mean...
> what's before 46trim? stock?
> lol
> oh well at least i got boost & power :)
>
> Cheers
>
> Suze

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Re: anyone selling any turbos?   2004-12-01 10:50:00 <Suze>
LMAO

altho it is 46 i am proud of my girl and the turbo does seem to
perform extremely well... i am pleased with it... 206kw and as of the
last friday drag wars i got a new personal best of 13.3... i'm happy
;)
by the way... i have no clue on how to read maps properly... for the
46 trim... what is the most efficient boost i can run on this turbo
without running out/heatsoaking? i figured on 13-14? with the right
mods to suit of course.. i'm only running 9psi at the mo and my fuel
is 11.7:1.. my next mod is a fpr :)

Thanks

Suze


On Wed, 1 Dec 2004 10:45:50 +1300, Cully Paterson <cully@supras.org.nz> wrote:
>
> OK, bring it back and we'll put on a wheel with a smaller inducer, then
> you can wank on all you like about how big your trim is. :-P
>
> In case you can't figure that out, trim is *relative*. It's a
> proportion. It has nothing to do with overall size.
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Suze [mailto:suprra@gmail.com]
> > Sent: Wednesday, 1 December 2004 10:37 a.m.
> > To: SCONZ.list Forward
> > Subject: Re: [sconz] anyone selling any turbos?
> >
> > so isn't that one of the smallest to4 wheels? i mean...
> > what's before 46trim? stock?
> > lol
> > oh well at least i got boost & power :)
> >
> > Cheers
> >
> > Suze
>
> ---
> Supra Club of New Zealand - http://www.supras.org.nz/
> Website sponsored by Alltech Diesel & Turbocharger http://www.turbo.co.nz
>


--
Cheers

Suze
The Real Deal Hack Machine ;)
www.supra.co.nz
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