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damn cheap jza70   2006-05-08 18:32:00 <Matthew Adair>
http://www.trademe.co.nz/Trade-Me-Motors/Cars/Toyota/auction-56086692.htm

damn thats cheap
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Re: damn cheap jza70   2006-05-09 08:44:00 <Looonie>
Not really, thats expensive for a automatic 24 year old car.

Regards

Dave Thom
Technical Manager
027 344 3938
----- Original Message -----
From: "Matthew Adair" <prisoner45@hotmail.com>
To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List" <sconz@list.supras.org.nz>
Sent: Monday, May 08, 2006 6:31 PM
Subject: [sconz] damn cheap jza70


> http://www.trademe.co.nz/Trade-Me-Motors/Cars/Toyota/auction-56086692.htm
>
> damn thats cheap
> ---
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RE: damn cheap jza70   2006-05-09 08:57:00 <Peter Nield \(DSL AK\)>
24 years old? A typo perhaps?

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From: bounce-54880-33@list.supras.org.nz on behalf of Looonie
Sent: Tue 9/05/2006 08:41
To: Supra Club of NZ Mailing List
Subject: Re: [sconz] damn cheap jza70



Not really, thats expensive for a automatic 24 year old car.

Regards

Dave Thom
Technical Manager
027 344 3938
----- Original Message -----
From: "Matthew Adair"
To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List"
Sent: Monday, May 08, 2006 6:31 PM
Subject: [sconz] damn cheap jza70


> http://www.trademe.co.nz/Trade-Me-Motors/Cars/Toyota/auction-56086692.htm
>
> damn thats cheap
> ---
> Supra Club of New Zealand - http://www.supras.org.nz/
> Website sponsored by Alltech Diesel & Turbocharger http://www.turbo.co.nz
>


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Re: damn cheap jza70   2006-05-09 09:05:00 <Looonie>
Sorry, too early in the morning for my brain to activate (not that it ever
does)...

14 year old car :)

Regards

Dave Thom
Technical Manager
Harvey Norman New Plymouth
027 344 3938
----- Original Message -----
From: "Peter Nield (DSL AK)" <PeterN@datacom.co.nz>
To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List" <sconz@list.supras.org.nz>
Sent: Tuesday, May 09, 2006 8:55 AM
Subject: RE: [sconz] damn cheap jza70


24 years old? A typo perhaps?

________________________________

From: bounce-54880-33@list.supras.org.nz on behalf of Looonie
Sent: Tue 9/05/2006 08:41
To: Supra Club of NZ Mailing List
Subject: Re: [sconz] damn cheap jza70



Not really, thats expensive for a automatic 24 year old car.

Regards

Dave Thom
Technical Manager
027 344 3938
----- Original Message -----
From: "Matthew Adair" <prisoner45@hotmail.com>
To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List" <sconz@list.supras.org.nz>
Sent: Monday, May 08, 2006 6:31 PM
Subject: [sconz] damn cheap jza70


> http://www.trademe.co.nz/Trade-Me-Motors/Cars/Toyota/auction-56086692.htm
>
> damn thats cheap
> ---
> Supra Club of New Zealand - http://www.supras.org.nz/
> Website sponsored by Alltech Diesel & Turbocharger http://www.turbo.co.nz
>


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RE: damn cheap jza70   2006-05-09 10:29:00 <Hunt M>
Not really - it seems like a pretty nice example.

-----Original Message-----
From: bounce-54882-72@list.supras.org.nz
[mailto:bounce-54882-72@list.supras.org.nz] On Behalf Of Looonie
Sent: Tuesday, 9 May 2006 9:05 a.m.
To: Supra Club of NZ Mailing List
Subject: Re: [sconz] damn cheap jza70

Sorry, too early in the morning for my brain to activate (not that it ever
does)...

14 year old car :)

Regards

Dave Thom
Technical Manager
Harvey Norman New Plymouth
027 344 3938
----- Original Message -----
From: "Peter Nield (DSL AK)" <PeterN@datacom.co.nz>
To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List" <sconz@list.supras.org.nz>
Sent: Tuesday, May 09, 2006 8:55 AM
Subject: RE: [sconz] damn cheap jza70


24 years old? A typo perhaps?

________________________________

From: bounce-54880-33@list.supras.org.nz on behalf of Looonie
Sent: Tue 9/05/2006 08:41
To: Supra Club of NZ Mailing List
Subject: Re: [sconz] damn cheap jza70



Not really, thats expensive for a automatic 24 year old car.

Regards

Dave Thom
Technical Manager
027 344 3938
----- Original Message -----
From: "Matthew Adair" <prisoner45@hotmail.com>
To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List" <sconz@list.supras.org.nz>
Sent: Monday, May 08, 2006 6:31 PM
Subject: [sconz] damn cheap jza70


> http://www.trademe.co.nz/Trade-Me-Motors/Cars/Toyota/auction-56086692.htm
>
> damn thats cheap
> ---
> Supra Club of New Zealand - http://www.supras.org.nz/
> Website sponsored by Alltech Diesel & Turbocharger http://www.turbo.co.nz
>


---
Supra Club of New Zealand - http://www.supras.org.nz/
Website sponsored by Alltech Diesel & Turbocharger http://www.turbo.co.nz



---
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Website sponsored by Alltech Diesel & Turbocharger http://www.turbo.co.nz


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Re: damn cheap jza70   2006-05-09 10:39:00 <Looonie>
So you'd happily pay $4,500 for any 14 year old car so long as its in tidy
condition?

Regards

Dave Thom
Technical Manager
Harvey Norman New Plymouth
027 344 3938
----- Original Message -----
From: "Hunt M" <5uprah@supras.co.nz>
To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List" <sconz@list.supras.org.nz>
Sent: Tuesday, May 09, 2006 10:29 AM
Subject: RE: [sconz] damn cheap jza70


> Not really - it seems like a pretty nice example.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: bounce-54882-72@list.supras.org.nz
> [mailto:bounce-54882-72@list.supras.org.nz] On Behalf Of Looonie
> Sent: Tuesday, 9 May 2006 9:05 a.m.
> To: Supra Club of NZ Mailing List
> Subject: Re: [sconz] damn cheap jza70
>
> Sorry, too early in the morning for my brain to activate (not that it ever
> does)...
>
> 14 year old car :)
>
> Regards
>
> Dave Thom
> Technical Manager
> Harvey Norman New Plymouth
> 027 344 3938
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Peter Nield (DSL AK)" <PeterN@datacom.co.nz>
> To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List" <sconz@list.supras.org.nz>
> Sent: Tuesday, May 09, 2006 8:55 AM
> Subject: RE: [sconz] damn cheap jza70
>
>
> 24 years old? A typo perhaps?
>
> ________________________________
>
> From: bounce-54880-33@list.supras.org.nz on behalf of Looonie
> Sent: Tue 9/05/2006 08:41
> To: Supra Club of NZ Mailing List
> Subject: Re: [sconz] damn cheap jza70
>
>
>
> Not really, thats expensive for a automatic 24 year old car.
>
> Regards
>
> Dave Thom
> Technical Manager
> 027 344 3938
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Matthew Adair" <prisoner45@hotmail.com>
> To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List" <sconz@list.supras.org.nz>
> Sent: Monday, May 08, 2006 6:31 PM
> Subject: [sconz] damn cheap jza70
>
>
>> http://www.trademe.co.nz/Trade-Me-Motors/Cars/Toyota/auction-56086692.htm
>>
>> damn thats cheap
>> ---
>> Supra Club of New Zealand - http://www.supras.org.nz/
>> Website sponsored by Alltech Diesel & Turbocharger http://www.turbo.co.nz
>>
>
>
> ---
> Supra Club of New Zealand - http://www.supras.org.nz/
> Website sponsored by Alltech Diesel & Turbocharger http://www.turbo.co.nz
>
>
>
> ---
> Supra Club of New Zealand - http://www.supras.org.nz/
> Website sponsored by Alltech Diesel & Turbocharger http://www.turbo.co.nz
>
>
> ---
> Supra Club of New Zealand - http://www.supras.org.nz/
> Website sponsored by Alltech Diesel & Turbocharger http://www.turbo.co.nz
>
>
>
>
>
> ---
> Supra Club of New Zealand - http://www.supras.org.nz/
> Website sponsored by Alltech Diesel & Turbocharger http://www.turbo.co.nz
>

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RE: damn cheap jza70   2006-05-09 10:42:00 <john shannon>

lol we just paid $4500 for a jza70 as a parts car, so to me i think that is cheap for the one on trade me.


From:  "Hunt M" <5uprah@supras.co.nz>
Reply-To:  "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List" <sconz@list.supras.org.nz>
To:  "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List" <sconz@list.supras.org.nz>
Subject:  RE: [sconz] damn cheap jza70
Date:  Tue, 9 May 2006 10:29:17 +1200
>Not really - it seems like a pretty nice example.
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: bounce-54882-72@list.supras.org.nz
>[mailto:bounce-54882-72@list.supras.org.nz] On Behalf Of Looonie
>Sent: Tuesday, 9 May 2006 9:05 a.m.
>To: Supra Club of NZ Mailing List
>Subject: Re: [sconz] damn cheap jza70
>
>Sorry, too early in the morning for my brain to activate (not that it ever
>does)...
>
>14 year old car :)
>
>Regards
>
>Dave Thom
>Technical Manager
>Harvey Norman New Plymouth
>027 344 3938
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Peter Nield (DSL AK)" <PeterN@datacom.co.nz>
>To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List" <sconz@list.supras.org.nz>
>Sent: Tuesday, May 09, 2006 8:55 AM
>Subject: RE: [sconz] damn cheap jza70
>
>
>24 years old?  A typo perhaps?
>
>________________________________
>
>From: bounce-54880-33@list.supras.org.nz on behalf of Looonie
>Sent: Tue 9/05/2006 08:41
>To: Supra Club of NZ Mailing List
>Subject: Re: [sconz] damn cheap jza70
>
>
>
>Not really, thats expensive for a automatic 24 year old car.
>
>Regards
>
>Dave Thom
>Technical Manager
>027 344 3938
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Matthew Adair" <prisoner45@hotmail.com>
>To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List" <sconz@list.supras.org.nz>
>Sent: Monday, May 08, 2006 6:31 PM
>Subject: [sconz] damn cheap jza70
>
>
> > http://www.trademe.co.nz/Trade-Me-Motors/Cars/Toyota/auction-56086692.htm
> >
> > damn thats cheap
> > ---
> > Supra Club of New Zealand - http://www.supras.org.nz/
> > Website sponsored by Alltech Diesel & Turbocharger http://www.turbo.co.nz
> >
>
>
>---
>Supra Club of New Zealand - http://www.supras.org.nz/
>Website sponsored by Alltech Diesel & Turbocharger http://www.turbo.co.nz
>
>
>
>---
>Supra Club of New Zealand - http://www.supras.org.nz/
>Website sponsored by Alltech Diesel & Turbocharger http://www.turbo.co.nz
>
>
>---
>Supra Club of New Zealand - http://www.supras.org.nz/
>Website sponsored by Alltech Diesel & Turbocharger http://www.turbo.co.nz
>
>
>
>
>
>---
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>Website sponsored by Alltech Diesel & Turbocharger http://www.turbo.co.nz


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RE: damn cheap jza70   2006-05-09 10:43:00 <Hunt M>
Well that's a rather useless statement - I'd gladly pay $4,500 for a 14 year
old car as long as it wasn't a Honda city.

-----Original Message-----
From: bounce-54885-72@list.supras.org.nz
[mailto:bounce-54885-72@list.supras.org.nz] On Behalf Of Looonie
Sent: Tuesday, 9 May 2006 10:39 a.m.
To: Supra Club of NZ Mailing List
Subject: Re: [sconz] damn cheap jza70

So you'd happily pay $4,500 for any 14 year old car so long as its in tidy
condition?

Regards

Dave Thom
Technical Manager
Harvey Norman New Plymouth
027 344 3938
----- Original Message -----
From: "Hunt M" <5uprah@supras.co.nz>
To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List" <sconz@list.supras.org.nz>
Sent: Tuesday, May 09, 2006 10:29 AM
Subject: RE: [sconz] damn cheap jza70


> Not really - it seems like a pretty nice example.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: bounce-54882-72@list.supras.org.nz
> [mailto:bounce-54882-72@list.supras.org.nz] On Behalf Of Looonie
> Sent: Tuesday, 9 May 2006 9:05 a.m.
> To: Supra Club of NZ Mailing List
> Subject: Re: [sconz] damn cheap jza70
>
> Sorry, too early in the morning for my brain to activate (not that it ever
> does)...
>
> 14 year old car :)
>
> Regards
>
> Dave Thom
> Technical Manager
> Harvey Norman New Plymouth
> 027 344 3938
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Peter Nield (DSL AK)" <PeterN@datacom.co.nz>
> To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List" <sconz@list.supras.org.nz>
> Sent: Tuesday, May 09, 2006 8:55 AM
> Subject: RE: [sconz] damn cheap jza70
>
>
> 24 years old? A typo perhaps?
>
> ________________________________
>
> From: bounce-54880-33@list.supras.org.nz on behalf of Looonie
> Sent: Tue 9/05/2006 08:41
> To: Supra Club of NZ Mailing List
> Subject: Re: [sconz] damn cheap jza70
>
>
>
> Not really, thats expensive for a automatic 24 year old car.
>
> Regards
>
> Dave Thom
> Technical Manager
> 027 344 3938
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Matthew Adair" <prisoner45@hotmail.com>
> To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List" <sconz@list.supras.org.nz>
> Sent: Monday, May 08, 2006 6:31 PM
> Subject: [sconz] damn cheap jza70
>
>
>> http://www.trademe.co.nz/Trade-Me-Motors/Cars/Toyota/auction-56086692.htm
>>
>> damn thats cheap
>> ---
>> Supra Club of New Zealand - http://www.supras.org.nz/
>> Website sponsored by Alltech Diesel & Turbocharger http://www.turbo.co.nz
>>
>
>
> ---
> Supra Club of New Zealand - http://www.supras.org.nz/
> Website sponsored by Alltech Diesel & Turbocharger http://www.turbo.co.nz
>
>
>
> ---
> Supra Club of New Zealand - http://www.supras.org.nz/
> Website sponsored by Alltech Diesel & Turbocharger http://www.turbo.co.nz
>
>
> ---
> Supra Club of New Zealand - http://www.supras.org.nz/
> Website sponsored by Alltech Diesel & Turbocharger http://www.turbo.co.nz
>
>
>
>
>
> ---
> Supra Club of New Zealand - http://www.supras.org.nz/
> Website sponsored by Alltech Diesel & Turbocharger http://www.turbo.co.nz
>


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RE: damn cheap jza70   2006-05-09 10:47:00 <Hunt M>
ouch



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From: bounce-54886-72@list.supras.org.nz
[mailto:bounce-54886-72@list.supras.org.nz] On Behalf Of john shannon
Sent: Tuesday, 9 May 2006 10:42 a.m.
To: Supra Club of NZ Mailing List
Subject: RE: [sconz] damn cheap jza70



lol we just paid $4500 for a jza70 as a parts car, so to me i think that is
cheap for the one on trade me.


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From: "Hunt M" <5uprah@supras.co.nz>
Reply-To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List" <sconz@list.supras.org.nz>
To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List" <sconz@list.supras.org.nz>
Subject: RE: [sconz] damn cheap jza70
Date: Tue, 9 May 2006 10:29:17 +1200
>Not really - it seems like a pretty nice example.
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: bounce-54882-72@list.supras.org.nz
>[mailto:bounce-54882-72@list.supras.org.nz] On Behalf Of Looonie
>Sent: Tuesday, 9 May 2006 9:05 a.m.
>To: Supra Club of NZ Mailing List
>Subject: Re: [sconz] damn cheap jza70
>
>Sorry, too early in the morning for my brain to activate (not that it ever
>does)...
>
>14 year old car :)
>
>Regards
>
>Dave Thom
>Technical Manager
>Harvey Norman New Plymouth
>027 344 3938
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Peter Nield (DSL AK)" <PeterN@datacom.co.nz>
>To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List" <sconz@list.supras.org.nz>
>Sent: Tuesday, May 09, 2006 8:55 AM
>Subject: RE: [sconz] damn cheap jza70
>
>
>24 years old? A typo perhaps?
>
>________________________________
>
>From: bounce-54880-33@list.supras.org.nz on behalf of Looonie
>Sent: Tue 9/05/2006 08:41
>To: Supra Club of NZ Mailing List
>Subject: Re: [sconz] damn cheap jza70
>
>
>
>Not really, thats expensive for a automatic 24 year old car.
>
>Regards
>
>Dave Thom
>Technical Manager
>027 344 3938
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Matthew Adair" <prisoner45@hotmail.com>
>To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List" <sconz@list.supras.org.nz>
>Sent: Monday, May 08, 2006 6:31 PM
>Subject: [sconz] damn cheap jza70
>
>
> >
http://www.trademe.co.nz/Trade-Me-Motors/Cars/Toyota/auction-56086692.htm
> >
> > damn thats cheap
> > ---
> > Supra Club of New Zealand - http://www.supras.org.nz/
> > Website sponsored by Alltech Diesel & Turbocharger
http://www.turbo.co.nz
> >
>
>
>---
>Supra Club of New Zealand - http://www.supras.org.nz/
>Website sponsored by Alltech Diesel & Turbocharger http://www.turbo.co.nz
>
>
>
>---
>Supra Club of New Zealand - http://www.supras.org.nz/
>Website sponsored by Alltech Diesel & Turbocharger http://www.turbo.co.nz
>
>
>---
>Supra Club of New Zealand - http://www.supras.org.nz/
>Website sponsored by Alltech Diesel & Turbocharger http://www.turbo.co.nz
>
>
>
>
>
>---
>Supra Club of New Zealand - http://www.supras.org.nz/
>Website sponsored by Alltech Diesel & Turbocharger http://www.turbo.co.nz




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Re: damn cheap jza70   2006-05-09 11:07:00 <Darcy Cresswell>
Id happily pay $4000 for any (driveable) car with a good running 1jz-gte!!

----Original Message Follows----
From: "Looonie" <supras@boost.org.nz>
Reply-To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List" <sconz@list.supras.org.nz>
To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List" <sconz@list.supras.org.nz>
Subject: Re: [sconz] damn cheap jza70
Date: Tue, 9 May 2006 10:38:40 +1200

So you'd happily pay $4,500 for any 14 year old car so long as its in tidy
condition?

Regards

Dave Thom
Technical Manager
Harvey Norman New Plymouth
027 344 3938
----- Original Message ----- From: "Hunt M" <5uprah@supras.co.nz>
To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List" <sconz@list.supras.org.nz>
Sent: Tuesday, May 09, 2006 10:29 AM
Subject: RE: [sconz] damn cheap jza70


>Not really - it seems like a pretty nice example.
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: bounce-54882-72@list.supras.org.nz
>[mailto:bounce-54882-72@list.supras.org.nz] On Behalf Of Looonie
>Sent: Tuesday, 9 May 2006 9:05 a.m.
>To: Supra Club of NZ Mailing List
>Subject: Re: [sconz] damn cheap jza70
>
>Sorry, too early in the morning for my brain to activate (not that it ever
>does)...
>
>14 year old car :)
>
>Regards
>
>Dave Thom
>Technical Manager
>Harvey Norman New Plymouth
>027 344 3938
>----- Original Message ----- From: "Peter Nield (DSL AK)"
><PeterN@datacom.co.nz>
>To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List" <sconz@list.supras.org.nz>
>Sent: Tuesday, May 09, 2006 8:55 AM
>Subject: RE: [sconz] damn cheap jza70
>
>
>24 years old? A typo perhaps?
>
>________________________________
>
>From: bounce-54880-33@list.supras.org.nz on behalf of Looonie
>Sent: Tue 9/05/2006 08:41
>To: Supra Club of NZ Mailing List
>Subject: Re: [sconz] damn cheap jza70
>
>
>
>Not really, thats expensive for a automatic 24 year old car.
>
>Regards
>
>Dave Thom
>Technical Manager
>027 344 3938
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Matthew Adair" <prisoner45@hotmail.com>
>To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List" <sconz@list.supras.org.nz>
>Sent: Monday, May 08, 2006 6:31 PM
>Subject: [sconz] damn cheap jza70
>
>
>>http://www.trademe.co.nz/Trade-Me-Motors/Cars/Toyota/auction-56086692.htm
>>
>>damn thats cheap
>>---
>>Supra Club of New Zealand - http://www.supras.org.nz/
>>Website sponsored by Alltech Diesel & Turbocharger http://www.turbo.co.nz
>>
>
>
>---
>Supra Club of New Zealand - http://www.supras.org.nz/
>Website sponsored by Alltech Diesel & Turbocharger http://www.turbo.co.nz
>
>
>
>---
>Supra Club of New Zealand - http://www.supras.org.nz/
>Website sponsored by Alltech Diesel & Turbocharger http://www.turbo.co.nz
>
>
>---
>Supra Club of New Zealand - http://www.supras.org.nz/
>Website sponsored by Alltech Diesel & Turbocharger http://www.turbo.co.nz
>
>
>
>
>
>---
>Supra Club of New Zealand - http://www.supras.org.nz/
>Website sponsored by Alltech Diesel & Turbocharger http://www.turbo.co.nz
>


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Re: damn cheap jza70   2006-05-09 11:13:00 <Looonie>
I guess I should start buying $500 86 supras and banging in $1500 automatic
1JZ-GTE's and selling them for $4,000 as everyone obviously thinks they're
worth that :)

I'm not detracting from the car at all, I think its a bloody nice car, and
its a fair price for the vehicle. I'm disputing however that its "cheap".
MKIII's are just overpriced which is why this looks "cheap".

Regards

Dave Thom
Technical Manager
Harvey Norman New Plymouth
027 344 3938
----- Original Message -----
From: "Darcy Cresswell" <dlc702@hotmail.com>
To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List" <sconz@list.supras.org.nz>
Sent: Tuesday, May 09, 2006 11:06 AM
Subject: Re: [sconz] damn cheap jza70


> Id happily pay $4000 for any (driveable) car with a good running 1jz-gte!!
>
> ----Original Message Follows----
> From: "Looonie" <supras@boost.org.nz>
> Reply-To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List" <sconz@list.supras.org.nz>
> To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List" <sconz@list.supras.org.nz>
> Subject: Re: [sconz] damn cheap jza70
> Date: Tue, 9 May 2006 10:38:40 +1200
>
> So you'd happily pay $4,500 for any 14 year old car so long as its in tidy
> condition?
>
> Regards
>
> Dave Thom
> Technical Manager
> Harvey Norman New Plymouth
> 027 344 3938
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Hunt M" <5uprah@supras.co.nz>
> To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List" <sconz@list.supras.org.nz>
> Sent: Tuesday, May 09, 2006 10:29 AM
> Subject: RE: [sconz] damn cheap jza70
>
>
>>Not really - it seems like a pretty nice example.
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: bounce-54882-72@list.supras.org.nz
>>[mailto:bounce-54882-72@list.supras.org.nz] On Behalf Of Looonie
>>Sent: Tuesday, 9 May 2006 9:05 a.m.
>>To: Supra Club of NZ Mailing List
>>Subject: Re: [sconz] damn cheap jza70
>>
>>Sorry, too early in the morning for my brain to activate (not that it ever
>>does)...
>>
>>14 year old car :)
>>
>>Regards
>>
>>Dave Thom
>>Technical Manager
>>Harvey Norman New Plymouth
>>027 344 3938
>>----- Original Message ----- From: "Peter Nield (DSL AK)"
>><PeterN@datacom.co.nz>
>>To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List" <sconz@list.supras.org.nz>
>>Sent: Tuesday, May 09, 2006 8:55 AM
>>Subject: RE: [sconz] damn cheap jza70
>>
>>
>>24 years old? A typo perhaps?
>>
>>________________________________
>>
>>From: bounce-54880-33@list.supras.org.nz on behalf of Looonie
>>Sent: Tue 9/05/2006 08:41
>>To: Supra Club of NZ Mailing List
>>Subject: Re: [sconz] damn cheap jza70
>>
>>
>>
>>Not really, thats expensive for a automatic 24 year old car.
>>
>>Regards
>>
>>Dave Thom
>>Technical Manager
>>027 344 3938
>>----- Original Message -----
>>From: "Matthew Adair" <prisoner45@hotmail.com>
>>To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List" <sconz@list.supras.org.nz>
>>Sent: Monday, May 08, 2006 6:31 PM
>>Subject: [sconz] damn cheap jza70
>>
>>
>>>http://www.trademe.co.nz/Trade-Me-Motors/Cars/Toyota/auction-56086692.htm
>>>
>>>damn thats cheap
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>>
>>
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>>
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>>
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>>
>>
>>
>>
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>>
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Re: damn cheap jza70   2006-05-09 12:01:00 <john shannon>

It still cost you more than $4000 to do thats, and it still will not be a jza70, i paid $11,500 for mine and i think its worth every cent to me, you try to find a 280hp stock car for less than $4000.


From:  "Looonie" <supras@boost.org.nz>
Reply-To:  "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List" <sconz@list.supras.org.nz>
To:  "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List" <sconz@list.supras.org.nz>
Subject:  Re: [sconz] damn cheap jza70
Date:  Tue, 9 May 2006 11:13:19 +1200
>I guess I should start buying $500 86 supras and banging in $1500
>automatic 1JZ-GTE's and selling them for $4,000 as everyone
>obviously thinks they're worth that :)
>
>I'm not detracting from the car at all, I think its a bloody nice
>car, and its a fair price for the vehicle. I'm disputing however
>that its "cheap". MKIII's are just overpriced which is why this
>looks "cheap".
>
>Regards
>
>Dave Thom
>Technical Manager
>Harvey Norman New Plymouth
>027 344 3938
>----- Original Message ----- From: "Darcy Cresswell"
><dlc702@hotmail.com>
>To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List" <sconz@list.supras.org.nz>
>Sent: Tuesday, May 09, 2006 11:06 AM
>Subject: Re: [sconz] damn cheap jza70
>
>
>>Id happily pay $4000 for any (driveable) car with a good running
>>1jz-gte!!
>>
>>----Original Message Follows----
>>From: "Looonie" <supras@boost.org.nz>
>>Reply-To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List"
>><sconz@list.supras.org.nz>
>>To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List" <sconz@list.supras.org.nz>
>>Subject: Re: [sconz] damn cheap jza70
>>Date: Tue, 9 May 2006 10:38:40 +1200
>>
>>So you'd happily pay $4,500 for any 14 year old car so long as its
>>in tidy condition?
>>
>>Regards
>>
>>Dave Thom
>>Technical Manager
>>Harvey Norman New Plymouth
>>027 344 3938
>>----- Original Message ----- From: "Hunt M" <5uprah@supras.co.nz>
>>To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List" <sconz@list.supras.org.nz>
>>Sent: Tuesday, May 09, 2006 10:29 AM
>>Subject: RE: [sconz] damn cheap jza70
>>
>>
>>>Not really - it seems like a pretty nice example.
>>>
>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>From: bounce-54882-72@list.supras.org.nz
>>>[mailto:bounce-54882-72@list.supras.org.nz] On Behalf Of Looonie
>>>Sent: Tuesday, 9 May 2006 9:05 a.m.
>>>To: Supra Club of NZ Mailing List
>>>Subject: Re: [sconz] damn cheap jza70
>>>
>>>Sorry, too early in the morning for my brain to activate (not that
>>>it ever
>>>does)...
>>>
>>>14 year old car :)
>>>
>>>Regards
>>>
>>>Dave Thom
>>>Technical Manager
>>>Harvey Norman New Plymouth
>>>027 344 3938
>>>----- Original Message ----- From: "Peter Nield (DSL AK)"
>>><PeterN@datacom.co.nz>
>>>To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List" <sconz@list.supras.org.nz>
>>>Sent: Tuesday, May 09, 2006 8:55 AM
>>>Subject: RE: [sconz] damn cheap jza70
>>>
>>>
>>>24 years old?  A typo perhaps?
>>>
>>>________________________________
>>>
>>>From: bounce-54880-33@list.supras.org.nz on behalf of Looonie
>>>Sent: Tue 9/05/2006 08:41
>>>To: Supra Club of NZ Mailing List
>>>Subject: Re: [sconz] damn cheap jza70
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>Not really, thats expensive for a automatic 24 year old car.
>>>
>>>Regards
>>>
>>>Dave Thom
>>>Technical Manager
>>>027 344 3938
>>>----- Original Message -----
>>>From: "Matthew Adair" <prisoner45@hotmail.com>
>>>To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List" <sconz@list.supras.org.nz>
>>>Sent: Monday, May 08, 2006 6:31 PM
>>>Subject: [sconz] damn cheap jza70
>>>
>>>
>>>>http://www.trademe.co.nz/Trade-Me-Motors/Cars/Toyota/auction-56086692.htm
>>>>
>>>>damn thats cheap
>>>>---
>>>>Supra Club of New Zealand - http://www.supras.org.nz/
>>>>Website sponsored by Alltech Diesel & Turbocharger
>>>>http://www.turbo.co.nz
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>---
>>>Supra Club of New Zealand - http://www.supras.org.nz/
>>>Website sponsored by Alltech Diesel & Turbocharger
>>>http://www.turbo.co.nz
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>---
>>>Supra Club of New Zealand - http://www.supras.org.nz/
>>>Website sponsored by Alltech Diesel & Turbocharger
>>>http://www.turbo.co.nz
>>>
>>>
>>>---
>>>Supra Club of New Zealand - http://www.supras.org.nz/
>>>Website sponsored by Alltech Diesel & Turbocharger
>>>http://www.turbo.co.nz
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>---
>>>Supra Club of New Zealand - http://www.supras.org.nz/
>>>Website sponsored by Alltech Diesel & Turbocharger
>>>http://www.turbo.co.nz
>>>
>>
>>
>>---
>>Supra Club of New Zealand - http://www.supras.org.nz/
>>Website sponsored by Alltech Diesel & Turbocharger
>>http://www.turbo.co.nz
>>
>>_________________________________________________________________
>>Read the latest Hollywood gossip  @  
>>http://xtramsn.co.nz/entertainment
>>
>>
>>---
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>>Website sponsored by Alltech Diesel & Turbocharger
>>http://www.turbo.co.nz
>>
>
>
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Re: damn cheap jza70   2006-05-09 12:05:00 <Looonie>
How on earth do you figure it will cost more than $4000 to put a $1500 1JZ-GTE with auto box, loom and ECU into an 86 MA70?

Regards

Dave Thom
Technical Manager
Harvey Norman New Plymouth
027 344 3938
----- Original Message -----
From: john shannon
To: Supra Club of NZ Mailing List
Sent: Tuesday, May 09, 2006 12:01 PM
Subject: Re: [sconz] damn cheap jza70


It still cost you more than $4000 to do thats, and it still will not be a jza70, i paid $11,500 for mine and i think its worth every cent to me, you try to find a 280hp stock car for less than $4000.




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From: "Looonie" <supras@boost.org.nz>
Reply-To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List" <sconz@list.supras.org.nz>
To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List" <sconz@list.supras.org.nz>
Subject: Re: [sconz] damn cheap jza70
Date: Tue, 9 May 2006 11:13:19 +1200
>I guess I should start buying $500 86 supras and banging in $1500
>automatic 1JZ-GTE's and selling them for $4,000 as everyone
>obviously thinks they're worth that :)
>
>I'm not detracting from the car at all, I think its a bloody nice
>car, and its a fair price for the vehicle. I'm disputing however
>that its "cheap". MKIII's are just overpriced which is why this
>looks "cheap".
>
>Regards
>
>Dave Thom
>Technical Manager
>Harvey Norman New Plymouth
>027 344 3938
>----- Original Message ----- From: "Darcy Cresswell"
><dlc702@hotmail.com>
>To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List" <sconz@list.supras.org.nz>
>Sent: Tuesday, May 09, 2006 11:06 AM
>Subject: Re: [sconz] damn cheap jza70
>
>
>>Id happily pay $4000 for any (driveable) car with a good running
>>1jz-gte!!
>>
>>----Original Message Follows----
>>From: "Looonie" <supras@boost.org.nz>
>>Reply-To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List"
>><sconz@list.supras.org.nz>
>>To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List" <sconz@list.supras.org.nz>
>>Subject: Re: [sconz] damn cheap jza70
>>Date: Tue, 9 May 2006 10:38:40 +1200
>>
>>So you'd happily pay $4,500 for any 14 year old car so long as its
>>in tidy condition?
>>
>>Regards
>>
>>Dave Thom
>>Technical Manager
>>Harvey Norman New Plymouth
>>027 344 3938
>>----- Original Message ----- From: "Hunt M" <5uprah@supras.co.nz>
>>To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List" <sconz@list.supras.org.nz>
>>Sent: Tuesday, May 09, 2006 10:29 AM
>>Subject: RE: [sconz] damn cheap jza70
>>
>>
>>>Not really - it seems like a pretty nice example.
>>>
>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>From: bounce-54882-72@list.supras.org.nz
>>>[mailto:bounce-54882-72@list.supras.org.nz] On Behalf Of Looonie
>>>Sent: Tuesday, 9 May 2006 9:05 a.m.
>>>To: Supra Club of NZ Mailing List
>>>Subject: Re: [sconz] damn cheap jza70
>>>
>>>Sorry, too early in the morning for my brain to activate (not that
>>>it ever
>>>does)...
>>>
>>>14 year old car :)
>>>
>>>Regards
>>>
>>>Dave Thom
>>>Technical Manager
>>>Harvey Norman New Plymouth
>>>027 344 3938
>>>----- Original Message ----- From: "Peter Nield (DSL AK)"
>>><PeterN@datacom.co.nz>
>>>To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List" <sconz@list.supras.org.nz>
>>>Sent: Tuesday, May 09, 2006 8:55 AM
>>>Subject: RE: [sconz] damn cheap jza70
>>>
>>>
>>>24 years old? A typo perhaps?
>>>
>>>________________________________
>>>
>>>From: bounce-54880-33@list.supras.org.nz on behalf of Looonie
>>>Sent: Tue 9/05/2006 08:41
>>>To: Supra Club of NZ Mailing List
>>>Subject: Re: [sconz] damn cheap jza70
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>Not really, thats expensive for a automatic 24 year old car.
>>>
>>>Regards
>>>
>>>Dave Thom
>>>Technical Manager
>>>027 344 3938
>>>----- Original Message -----
>>>From: "Matthew Adair" <prisoner45@hotmail.com>
>>>To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List" <sconz@list.supras.org.nz>
>>>Sent: Monday, May 08, 2006 6:31 PM
>>>Subject: [sconz] damn cheap jza70
>>>
>>>
>>>>http://www.trademe.co.nz/Trade-Me-Motors/Cars/Toyota/auction-56086692.htm
>>>>
>>>>damn thats cheap
>>>>---
>>>>Supra Club of New Zealand - http://www.supras.org.nz/
>>>>Website sponsored by Alltech Diesel & Turbocharger
>>>>http://www.turbo.co.nz
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>---
>>>Supra Club of New Zealand - http://www.supras.org.nz/
>>>Website sponsored by Alltech Diesel & Turbocharger
>>>http://www.turbo.co.nz
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>---
>>>Supra Club of New Zealand - http://www.supras.org.nz/
>>>Website sponsored by Alltech Diesel & Turbocharger
>>>http://www.turbo.co.nz
>>>
>>>
>>>---
>>>Supra Club of New Zealand - http://www.supras.org.nz/
>>>Website sponsored by Alltech Diesel & Turbocharger
>>>http://www.turbo.co.nz
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>---
>>>Supra Club of New Zealand - http://www.supras.org.nz/
>>>Website sponsored by Alltech Diesel & Turbocharger
>>>http://www.turbo.co.nz
>>>
>>
>>
>>---
>>Supra Club of New Zealand - http://www.supras.org.nz/
>>Website sponsored by Alltech Diesel & Turbocharger
>>http://www.turbo.co.nz
>>
>>_________________________________________________________________
>>Read the latest Hollywood gossip @
>>http://xtramsn.co.nz/entertainment
>>
>>
>>---
>>Supra Club of New Zealand - http://www.supras.org.nz/
>>Website sponsored by Alltech Diesel & Turbocharger
>>http://www.turbo.co.nz
>>
>
>
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Re: damn cheap jza70   2006-05-09 12:12:00 <john shannon>

try it we just done it and the engine was less than $1500 and we already had the car, there is a lot more to it than you think, and it still not a jza70.


From: "Looonie" <supras@boost.org.nz>
Reply-To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List" <sconz@list.supras.org.nz>
To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List" <sconz@list.supras.org.nz>
Subject: Re: [sconz] damn cheap jza70
Date: Tue, 9 May 2006 12:04:49 +1200

How on earth do you figure it will cost more than $4000 to put a $1500 1JZ-GTE with auto box, loom and ECU into an 86 MA70?

Regards
 
Dave Thom
Technical Manager
Harvey Norman New Plymouth
027 344 3938
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, May 09, 2006 12:01 PM
Subject: Re: [sconz] damn cheap jza70

It still cost you more than $4000 to do thats, and it still will not be a jza70, i paid $11,500 for mine and i think its worth every cent to me, you try to find a 280hp stock car for less than $4000.


From:  "Looonie" <supras@boost.org.nz>
Reply-To:  "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List" <sconz@list.supras.org.nz>
To:  "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List" <sconz@list.supras.org.nz>
Subject:  Re: [sconz] damn cheap jza70
Date:  Tue, 9 May 2006 11:13:19 +1200
>I guess I should start buying $500 86 supras and banging in $1500
>automatic 1JZ-GTE's and selling them for $4,000 as everyone
>obviously thinks they're worth that :)
>
>I'm not detracting from the car at all, I think its a bloody nice
>car, and its a fair price for the vehicle. I'm disputing however
>that its "cheap". MKIII's are just overpriced which is why this
>looks "cheap".
>
>Regards
>
>Dave Thom
>Technical Manager
>Harvey Norman New Plymouth
>027 344 3938
>----- Original Message ----- From: "Darcy Cresswell"
><dlc702@hotmail.com>
>To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List" <sconz@list.supras.org.nz>
>Sent: Tuesday, May 09, 2006 11:06 AM
>Subject: Re: [sconz] damn cheap jza70
>
>
>>Id happily pay $4000 for any (driveable) car with a good running
>>1jz-gte!!
>>
>>----Original Message Follows----
>>From: "Looonie" <supras@boost.org.nz>
>>Reply-To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List"
>><sconz@list.supras.org.nz>
>>To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List" <sconz@list.supras.org.nz>
>>Subject: Re: [sconz] damn cheap jza70
>>Date: Tue, 9 May 2006 10:38:40 +1200
>>
>>So you'd happily pay $4,500 for any 14 year old car so long as its
>>in tidy condition?
>>
>>Regards
>>
>>Dave Thom
>>Technical Manager
>>Harvey Norman New Plymouth
>>027 344 3938
>>----- Original Message ----- From: "Hunt M" <5uprah@supras.co.nz>
>>To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List" <sconz@list.supras.org.nz>
>>Sent: Tuesday, May 09, 2006 10:29 AM
>>Subject: RE: [sconz] damn cheap jza70
>>
>>
>>>Not really - it seems like a pretty nice example.
>>>
>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>From: bounce-54882-72@list.supras.org.nz
>>>[mailto:bounce-54882-72@list.supras.org.nz] On Behalf Of Looonie
>>>Sent: Tuesday, 9 May 2006 9:05 a.m.
>>>To: Supra Club of NZ Mailing List
>>>Subject: Re: [sconz] damn cheap jza70
>>>
>>>Sorry, too early in the morning for my brain to activate (not that
>>>it ever
>>>does)...
>>>
>>>14 year old car :)
>>>
>>>Regards
>>>
>>>Dave Thom
>>>Technical Manager
>>>Harvey Norman New Plymouth
>>>027 344 3938
>>>----- Original Message ----- From: "Peter Nield (DSL AK)"
>>><PeterN@datacom.co.nz>
>>>To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List" <sconz@list.supras.org.nz>
>>>Sent: Tuesday, May 09, 2006 8:55 AM
>>>Subject: RE: [sconz] damn cheap jza70
>>>
>>>
>>>24 years old?  A typo perhaps?
>>>
>>>________________________________
>>>
>>>From: bounce-54880-33@list.supras.org.nz on behalf of Looonie
>>>Sent: Tue 9/05/2006 08:41
>>>To: Supra Club of NZ Mailing List
>>>Subject: Re: [sconz] damn cheap jza70
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>Not really, thats expensive for a automatic 24 year old car.
>>>
>>>Regards
>>>
>>>Dave Thom
>>>Technical Manager
>>>027 344 3938
>>>----- Original Message -----
>>>From: "Matthew Adair" <prisoner45@hotmail.com>
>>>To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List" <sconz@list.supras.org.nz>
>>>Sent: Monday, May 08, 2006 6:31 PM
>>>Subject: [sconz] damn cheap jza70
>>>
>>>
>>>>http://www.trademe.co.nz/Trade-Me-Motors/Cars/Toyota/auction-56086692.htm
>>>>
>>>>damn thats cheap
>>>>---
>>>>Supra Club of New Zealand - http://www.supras.org.nz/
>>>>Website sponsored by Alltech Diesel & Turbocharger
>>>>http://www.turbo.co.nz
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>---
>>>Supra Club of New Zealand - http://www.supras.org.nz/
>>>Website sponsored by Alltech Diesel & Turbocharger
>>>http://www.turbo.co.nz
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>---
>>>Supra Club of New Zealand - http://www.supras.org.nz/
>>>Website sponsored by Alltech Diesel & Turbocharger
>>>http://www.turbo.co.nz
>>>
>>>
>>>---
>>>Supra Club of New Zealand - http://www.supras.org.nz/
>>>Website sponsored by Alltech Diesel & Turbocharger
>>>http://www.turbo.co.nz
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>---
>>>Supra Club of New Zealand - http://www.supras.org.nz/
>>>Website sponsored by Alltech Diesel & Turbocharger
>>>http://www.turbo.co.nz
>>>
>>
>>
>>---
>>Supra Club of New Zealand - http://www.supras.org.nz/
>>Website sponsored by Alltech Diesel & Turbocharger
>>http://www.turbo.co.nz
>>
>>_________________________________________________________________
>>Read the latest Hollywood gossip  @  
>>http://xtramsn.co.nz/entertainment
>>
>>
>>---
>>Supra Club of New Zealand - http://www.supras.org.nz/
>>Website sponsored by Alltech Diesel & Turbocharger
>>http://www.turbo.co.nz
>>
>
>
>---
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>Website sponsored by Alltech Diesel & Turbocharger
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Re: damn cheap jza70   2006-05-09 12:14:00 <Marc Archbold>

You're under estimating the cost and over simplifying the conversion.


> How on earth do you figure it will cost more than $4000 to put a $1500
> 1JZ-GTE with auto box, loom and ECU into an 86 MA70?
>
> Regards
>
> Dave Thom
> Technical Manager
> Harvey Norman New Plymouth
> 027 344 3938
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: john shannon
> To: Supra Club of NZ Mailing List
> Sent: Tuesday, May 09, 2006 12:01 PM
> Subject: Re: [sconz] damn cheap jza70
>
>
> It still cost you more than $4000 to do thats, and it still will not be
> a jza70, i paid $11,500 for mine and i think its worth every cent to me,
> you try to find a 280hp stock car for less than $4000.
>
>
>
>
> --------------------------------------------------------
> --------------------
>
> From: "Looonie" <supras@boost.org.nz>
> Reply-To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List" <sconz@list.supras.org.nz>
> To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List" <sconz@list.supras.org.nz>
> Subject: Re: [sconz] damn cheap jza70
> Date: Tue, 9 May 2006 11:13:19 +1200
> >I guess I should start buying $500 86 supras and banging in $1500
> >automatic 1JZ-GTE's and selling them for $4,000 as everyone
> >obviously thinks they're worth that :)
> >
> >I'm not detracting from the car at all, I think its a bloody nice
> >car, and its a fair price for the vehicle. I'm disputing however
> >that its "cheap". MKIII's are just overpriced which is why this
> >looks "cheap".
> >
> >Regards
> >
> >Dave Thom
> >Technical Manager
> >Harvey Norman New Plymouth
> >027 344 3938
> >----- Original Message ----- From: "Darcy Cresswell"
> ><dlc702@hotmail.com>
> >To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List" <sconz@list.supras.org.nz>
> >Sent: Tuesday, May 09, 2006 11:06 AM
> >Subject: Re: [sconz] damn cheap jza70
> >
> >
> >>Id happily pay $4000 for any (driveable) car with a good running
> >>1jz-gte!!
> >>
> >>----Original Message Follows----
> >>From: "Looonie" <supras@boost.org.nz>
> >>Reply-To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List"
> >><sconz@list.supras.org.nz>
> >>To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List" <sconz@list.supras.org.nz>
> >>Subject: Re: [sconz] damn cheap jza70
> >>Date: Tue, 9 May 2006 10:38:40 +1200
> >>
> >>So you'd happily pay $4,500 for any 14 year old car so long as its
> >>in tidy condition?
> >>
> >>Regards
> >>
> >>Dave Thom
> >>Technical Manager
> >>Harvey Norman New Plymouth
> >>027 344 3938
> >>----- Original Message ----- From: "Hunt M" <5uprah@supras.co.nz>
> >>To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List" <sconz@list.supras.org.nz>
> >>Sent: Tuesday, May 09, 2006 10:29 AM
> >>Subject: RE: [sconz] damn cheap jza70
> >>
> >>
> >>>Not really - it seems like a pretty nice example.
> >>>
> >>>-----Original Message-----
> >>>From: bounce-54882-72@list.supras.org.nz
> >>>[mailto:bounce-54882-72@list.supras.org.nz] On Behalf Of Looonie
> >>>Sent: Tuesday, 9 May 2006 9:05 a.m.
> >>>To: Supra Club of NZ Mailing List
> >>>Subject: Re: [sconz] damn cheap jza70
> >>>
> >>>Sorry, too early in the morning for my brain to activate (not that
> >>>it ever
> >>>does)...
> >>>
> >>>14 year old car :)
> >>>
> >>>Regards
> >>>
> >>>Dave Thom
> >>>Technical Manager
> >>>Harvey Norman New Plymouth
> >>>027 344 3938
> >>>----- Original Message ----- From: "Peter Nield (DSL AK)"
> >>><PeterN@datacom.co.nz>
> >>>To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List" <sconz@list.supras.org.nz>
> >>>Sent: Tuesday, May 09, 2006 8:55 AM
> >>>Subject: RE: [sconz] damn cheap jza70
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>24 years old? A typo perhaps?
> >>>
> >>>________________________________
> >>>
> >>>From: bounce-54880-33@list.supras.org.nz on behalf of Looonie
> >>>Sent: Tue 9/05/2006 08:41
> >>>To: Supra Club of NZ Mailing List
> >>>Subject: Re: [sconz] damn cheap jza70
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>Not really, thats expensive for a automatic 24 year old car.
> >>>
> >>>Regards
> >>>
> >>>Dave Thom
> >>>Technical Manager
> >>>027 344 3938
> >>>----- Original Message -----
> >>>From: "Matthew Adair" <prisoner45@hotmail.com>
> >>>To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List" <sconz@list.supras.org.nz>
> >>>Sent: Monday, May 08, 2006 6:31 PM
> >>>Subject: [sconz] damn cheap jza70
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>http://www.trademe.co.nz/Trade-Me-Motors/Cars/Toyota/auction-
56086692.htm
> >>>>
> >>>>damn thats cheap
> >>>>---
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RE: damn cheap jza70   2006-05-09 12:24:00 <Hunt M>
Lets see
$1500 for 1JZ with auto box

$500 for x-member

$1500 for MA70 shell.

20 hours labour at $50 per hour = $1000



Oh look at that - $4,500 and you just know its not going to be as good as a
stock JZA



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From: bounce-54893-72@list.supras.org.nz
[mailto:bounce-54893-72@list.supras.org.nz] On Behalf Of Looonie
Sent: Tuesday, 9 May 2006 12:05 p.m.
To: Supra Club of NZ Mailing List
Subject: Re: [sconz] damn cheap jza70



How on earth do you figure it will cost more than $4000 to put a $1500
1JZ-GTE with auto box, loom and ECU into an 86 MA70?


Regards



Dave Thom
Technical Manager
Harvey Norman New Plymouth
027 344 3938

----- Original Message -----

From: john <mailto:jshannon55@hotmail.com> shannon

To: Supra <mailto:sconz@list.supras.org.nz> Club of NZ Mailing List

Sent: Tuesday, May 09, 2006 12:01 PM

Subject: Re: [sconz] damn cheap jza70



It still cost you more than $4000 to do thats, and it still will not be a
jza70, i paid $11,500 for mine and i think its worth every cent to me, you
try to find a 280hp stock car for less than $4000.


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From: "Looonie" <supras@boost.org.nz>
Reply-To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List" <sconz@list.supras.org.nz>
To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List" <sconz@list.supras.org.nz>
Subject: Re: [sconz] damn cheap jza70
Date: Tue, 9 May 2006 11:13:19 +1200
>I guess I should start buying $500 86 supras and banging in $1500
>automatic 1JZ-GTE's and selling them for $4,000 as everyone
>obviously thinks they're worth that :)
>
>I'm not detracting from the car at all, I think its a bloody nice
>car, and its a fair price for the vehicle. I'm disputing however
>that its "cheap". MKIII's are just overpriced which is why this
>looks "cheap".
>
>Regards
>
>Dave Thom
>Technical Manager
>Harvey Norman New Plymouth
>027 344 3938
>----- Original Message ----- From: "Darcy Cresswell"
><dlc702@hotmail.com>
>To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List" <sconz@list.supras.org.nz>
>Sent: Tuesday, May 09, 2006 11:06 AM
>Subject: Re: [sconz] damn cheap jza70
>
>
>>Id happily pay $4000 for any (driveable) car with a good running
>>1jz-gte!!
>>
>>----Original Message Follows----
>>From: "Looonie" <supras@boost.org.nz>
>>Reply-To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List"
>><sconz@list.supras.org.nz>
>>To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List" <sconz@list.supras.org.nz>
>>Subject: Re: [sconz] damn cheap jza70
>>Date: Tue, 9 May 2006 10:38:40 +1200
>>
>>So you'd happily pay $4,500 for any 14 year old car so long as its
>>in tidy condition?
>>
>>Regards
>>
>>Dave Thom
>>Technical Manager
>>Harvey Norman New Plymouth
>>027 344 3938
>>----- Original Message ----- From: "Hunt M" <5uprah@supras.co.nz>
>>To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List" <sconz@list.supras.org.nz>
>>Sent: Tuesday, May 09, 2006 10:29 AM
>>Subject: RE: [sconz] damn cheap jza70
>>
>>
>>>Not really - it seems like a pretty nice example.
>>>
>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>From: bounce-54882-72@list.supras.org.nz
>>>[mailto:bounce-54882-72@list.supras.org.nz] On Behalf Of Looonie
>>>Sent: Tuesday, 9 May 2006 9:05 a.m.
>>>To: Supra Club of NZ Mailing List
>>>Subject: Re: [sconz] damn cheap jza70
>>>
>>>Sorry, too early in the morning for my brain to activate (not that
>>>it ever
>>>does)...
>>>
>>>14 year old car :)
>>>
>>>Regards
>>>
>>>Dave Thom
>>>Technical Manager
>>>Harvey Norman New Plymouth
>>>027 344 3938
>>>----- Original Message ----- From: "Peter Nield (DSL AK)"
>>><PeterN@datacom.co.nz>
>>>To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List" <sconz@list.supras.org.nz>
>>>Sent: Tuesday, May 09, 2006 8:55 AM
>>>Subject: RE: [sconz] damn cheap jza70
>>>
>>>
>>>24 years old? A typo perhaps?
>>>
>>>________________________________
>>>
>>>From: bounce-54880-33@list.supras.org.nz on behalf of Looonie
>>>Sent: Tue 9/05/2006 08:41
>>>To: Supra Club of NZ Mailing List
>>>Subject: Re: [sconz] damn cheap jza70
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>Not really, thats expensive for a automatic 24 year old car.
>>>
>>>Regards
>>>
>>>Dave Thom
>>>Technical Manager
>>>027 344 3938
>>>----- Original Message -----
>>>From: "Matthew Adair" <prisoner45@hotmail.com>
>>>To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List" <sconz@list.supras.org.nz>
>>>Sent: Monday, May 08, 2006 6:31 PM
>>>Subject: [sconz] damn cheap jza70
>>>
>>>
>>>>http://www.trademe.co.nz/Trade-Me-Motors/Cars/Toyota/auction-56086692.ht
m
>>>>
>>>>damn thats cheap
>>>>---
>>>>Supra Club of New Zealand - http://www.supras.org.nz/
>>>>Website sponsored by Alltech Diesel & Turbocharger
>>>>http://www.turbo.co.nz
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>---
>>>Supra Club of New Zealand - http://www.supras.org.nz/
>>>Website sponsored by Alltech Diesel & Turbocharger
>>>http://www.turbo.co.nz
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>---
>>>Supra Club of New Zealand - http://www.supras.org.nz/
>>>Website sponsored by Alltech Diesel & Turbocharger
>>>http://www.turbo.co.nz
>>>
>>>
>>>---
>>>Supra Club of New Zealand - http://www.supras.org.nz/
>>>Website sponsored by Alltech Diesel & Turbocharger
>>>http://www.turbo.co.nz
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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>>>Website sponsored by Alltech Diesel & Turbocharger
>>>http://www.turbo.co.nz
>>>
>>
>>
>>---
>>Supra Club of New Zealand - http://www.supras.org.nz/
>>Website sponsored by Alltech Diesel & Turbocharger
>>http://www.turbo.co.nz
>>
>>_________________________________________________________________
>>Read the latest Hollywood gossip @
>>http://xtramsn.co.nz/entertainment
>>
>>
>>---
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>>http://www.turbo.co.nz
>>
>
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Re: damn cheap jza70   2006-05-09 12:25:00 <Looonie>
Gimme 4k and I'll have a go at it :)

The only differences between an MA70 and a JZA70 other than the engine and box would be a torsen diff (model dependant) and the larger brakes, larger factory intercooler, no oil cooler, possibly different dash looms...

Don't actually know really if the fuel pumps are different or if the dash looms are different, but I still don't see anything that could cost significantly more or be that difficult to implement with the right contacts/knowledge.

Oh and of course it wouldn't have the correct frame number/vin plate...

But in all honesty I think JZA70's are AE86's over again... Overpriced purely because of the VIN plate...

Once again, I'm not saying this car isn't a good price, it is IMO a good fair price. However anything more than 5-6k for a JZA70 is IMO overpriced. If it wasn't for our government we'd still be able to get an abundant supply of these cars for 5-6k, most reasonably modified.

*shrug* Maybe its just my opinion, thats what makes me different :)

Regards

Dave Thom
Technical Manager
Harvey Norman New Plymouth
027 344 3938
----- Original Message -----
From: john shannon
To: Supra Club of NZ Mailing List
Sent: Tuesday, May 09, 2006 12:12 PM
Subject: Re: [sconz] damn cheap jza70


try it we just done it and the engine was less than $1500 and we already had the car, there is a lot more to it than you think, and it still not a jza70.




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From: "Looonie" <supras@boost.org.nz>
Reply-To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List" <sconz@list.supras.org.nz>
To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List" <sconz@list.supras.org.nz>
Subject: Re: [sconz] damn cheap jza70
Date: Tue, 9 May 2006 12:04:49 +1200


How on earth do you figure it will cost more than $4000 to put a $1500 1JZ-GTE with auto box, loom and ECU into an 86 MA70?

Regards

Dave Thom
Technical Manager
Harvey Norman New Plymouth
027 344 3938
----- Original Message -----
From: john shannon
To: Supra Club of NZ Mailing List
Sent: Tuesday, May 09, 2006 12:01 PM
Subject: Re: [sconz] damn cheap jza70


It still cost you more than $4000 to do thats, and it still will not be a jza70, i paid $11,500 for mine and i think its worth every cent to me, you try to find a 280hp stock car for less than $4000.




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From: "Looonie" <supras@boost.org.nz>
Reply-To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List" <sconz@list.supras.org.nz>
To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List" <sconz@list.supras.org.nz>
Subject: Re: [sconz] damn cheap jza70
Date: Tue, 9 May 2006 11:13:19 +1200
>I guess I should start buying $500 86 supras and banging in $1500
>automatic 1JZ-GTE's and selling them for $4,000 as everyone
>obviously thinks they're worth that :)
>
>I'm not detracting from the car at all, I think its a bloody nice
>car, and its a fair price for the vehicle. I'm disputing however
>that its "cheap". MKIII's are just overpriced which is why this
>looks "cheap".
>
>Regards
>
>Dave Thom
>Technical Manager
>Harvey Norman New Plymouth
>027 344 3938
>----- Original Message ----- From: "Darcy Cresswell"
><dlc702@hotmail.com>
>To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List" <sconz@list.supras.org.nz>
>Sent: Tuesday, May 09, 2006 11:06 AM
>Subject: Re: [sconz] damn cheap jza70
>
>
>>Id happily pay $4000 for any (driveable) car with a good running
>>1jz-gte!!
>>
>>----Original Message Follows----
>>From: "Looonie" <supras@boost.org.nz>
>>Reply-To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List"
>><sconz@list.supras.org.nz>
>>To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List" <sconz@list.supras.org.nz>
>>Subject: Re: [sconz] damn cheap jza70
>>Date: Tue, 9 May 2006 10:38:40 +1200
>>
>>So you'd happily pay $4,500 for any 14 year old car so long as its
>>in tidy condition?
>>
>>Regards
>>
>>Dave Thom
>>Technical Manager
>>Harvey Norman New Plymouth
>>027 344 3938
>>----- Original Message ----- From: "Hunt M" <5uprah@supras.co.nz>
>>To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List" <sconz@list.supras.org.nz>
>>Sent: Tuesday, May 09, 2006 10:29 AM
>>Subject: RE: [sconz] damn cheap jza70
>>
>>
>>>Not really - it seems like a pretty nice example.
>>>
>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>From: bounce-54882-72@list.supras.org.nz
>>>[mailto:bounce-54882-72@list.supras.org.nz] On Behalf Of Looonie
>>>Sent: Tuesday, 9 May 2006 9:05 a.m.
>>>To: Supra Club of NZ Mailing List
>>>Subject: Re: [sconz] damn cheap jza70
>>>
>>>Sorry, too early in the morning for my brain to activate (not that
>>>it ever
>>>does)...
>>>
>>>14 year old car :)
>>>
>>>Regards
>>>
>>>Dave Thom
>>>Technical Manager
>>>Harvey Norman New Plymouth
>>>027 344 3938
>>>----- Original Message ----- From: "Peter Nield (DSL AK)"
>>><PeterN@datacom.co.nz>
>>>To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List" <sconz@list.supras.org.nz>
>>>Sent: Tuesday, May 09, 2006 8:55 AM
>>>Subject: RE: [sconz] damn cheap jza70
>>>
>>>
>>>24 years old? A typo perhaps?
>>>
>>>________________________________
>>>
>>>From: bounce-54880-33@list.supras.org.nz on behalf of Looonie
>>>Sent: Tue 9/05/2006 08:41
>>>To: Supra Club of NZ Mailing List
>>>Subject: Re: [sconz] damn cheap jza70
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>Not really, thats expensive for a automatic 24 year old car.
>>>
>>>Regards
>>>
>>>Dave Thom
>>>Technical Manager
>>>027 344 3938
>>>----- Original Message -----
>>>From: "Matthew Adair" <prisoner45@hotmail.com>
>>>To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List" <sconz@list.supras.org.nz>
>>>Sent: Monday, May 08, 2006 6:31 PM
>>>Subject: [sconz] damn cheap jza70
>>>
>>>
>>>>http://www.trademe.co.nz/Trade-Me-Motors/Cars/Toyota/auction-56086692.htm
>>>>
>>>>damn thats cheap
>>>>---
>>>>Supra Club of New Zealand - http://www.supras.org.nz/
>>>>Website sponsored by Alltech Diesel & Turbocharger
>>>>http://www.turbo.co.nz
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>---
>>>Supra Club of New Zealand - http://www.supras.org.nz/
>>>Website sponsored by Alltech Diesel & Turbocharger
>>>http://www.turbo.co.nz
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>---
>>>Supra Club of New Zealand - http://www.supras.org.nz/
>>>Website sponsored by Alltech Diesel & Turbocharger
>>>http://www.turbo.co.nz
>>>
>>>
>>>---
>>>Supra Club of New Zealand - http://www.supras.org.nz/
>>>Website sponsored by Alltech Diesel & Turbocharger
>>>http://www.turbo.co.nz
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>---
>>>Supra Club of New Zealand - http://www.supras.org.nz/
>>>Website sponsored by Alltech Diesel & Turbocharger
>>>http://www.turbo.co.nz
>>>
>>
>>
>>---
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>>Website sponsored by Alltech Diesel & Turbocharger
>>http://www.turbo.co.nz
>>
>>_________________________________________________________________
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>>
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>>http://www.turbo.co.nz
>>
>
>
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Re: damn cheap jza70   2006-05-09 12:28:00 <Looonie>
I don't believe I'm doing either. Having done a reasonable amount of
research into the costings of 1JZ-GTE's along with keeping a good eye on the
current market price of MKIII supras, and not being a complete pleb when it
comes to swapping bits and pieces around between cars.

I realise there are some things I'm overlooking like the difference in power
steering lines, engine accessories etc etc. But a base model JZA70 has
nothing different to 89+ MA70 bar the engine, bellhousing, torque converter,
bigger front mount and lack of an oil cooler, as far as I'm aware.

If anybody else would like to properly detail the conversion and costings,
please do as I'd be interested to know if anybody has concrete figures on
this matter.

Regards

Dave Thom
Technical Manager
Harvey Norman New Plymouth
027 344 3938
----- Original Message -----
From: "Marc Archbold" <marc.a@paradise.net.nz>
To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List" <sconz@list.supras.org.nz>
Sent: Tuesday, May 09, 2006 12:13 PM
Subject: Re: [sconz] damn cheap jza70


>
> You're under estimating the cost and over simplifying the conversion.
>
>
>> How on earth do you figure it will cost more than $4000 to put a $1500
>> 1JZ-GTE with auto box, loom and ECU into an 86 MA70?
>>
>> Regards
>>
>> Dave Thom
>> Technical Manager
>> Harvey Norman New Plymouth
>> 027 344 3938
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: john shannon
>> To: Supra Club of NZ Mailing List
>> Sent: Tuesday, May 09, 2006 12:01 PM
>> Subject: Re: [sconz] damn cheap jza70
>>
>>
>> It still cost you more than $4000 to do thats, and it still will not be
>> a jza70, i paid $11,500 for mine and i think its worth every cent to me,
>> you try to find a 280hp stock car for less than $4000.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --------------------------------------------------------
>> --------------------
>>
>> From: "Looonie" <supras@boost.org.nz>
>> Reply-To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List" <sconz@list.supras.org.nz>
>> To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List" <sconz@list.supras.org.nz>
>> Subject: Re: [sconz] damn cheap jza70
>> Date: Tue, 9 May 2006 11:13:19 +1200
>> >I guess I should start buying $500 86 supras and banging in $1500
>> >automatic 1JZ-GTE's and selling them for $4,000 as everyone
>> >obviously thinks they're worth that :)
>> >
>> >I'm not detracting from the car at all, I think its a bloody nice
>> >car, and its a fair price for the vehicle. I'm disputing however
>> >that its "cheap". MKIII's are just overpriced which is why this
>> >looks "cheap".
>> >
>> >Regards
>> >
>> >Dave Thom
>> >Technical Manager
>> >Harvey Norman New Plymouth
>> >027 344 3938
>> >----- Original Message ----- From: "Darcy Cresswell"
>> ><dlc702@hotmail.com>
>> >To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List" <sconz@list.supras.org.nz>
>> >Sent: Tuesday, May 09, 2006 11:06 AM
>> >Subject: Re: [sconz] damn cheap jza70
>> >
>> >
>> >>Id happily pay $4000 for any (driveable) car with a good running
>> >>1jz-gte!!
>> >>
>> >>----Original Message Follows----
>> >>From: "Looonie" <supras@boost.org.nz>
>> >>Reply-To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List"
>> >><sconz@list.supras.org.nz>
>> >>To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List" <sconz@list.supras.org.nz>
>> >>Subject: Re: [sconz] damn cheap jza70
>> >>Date: Tue, 9 May 2006 10:38:40 +1200
>> >>
>> >>So you'd happily pay $4,500 for any 14 year old car so long as its
>> >>in tidy condition?
>> >>
>> >>Regards
>> >>
>> >>Dave Thom
>> >>Technical Manager
>> >>Harvey Norman New Plymouth
>> >>027 344 3938
>> >>----- Original Message ----- From: "Hunt M" <5uprah@supras.co.nz>
>> >>To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List" <sconz@list.supras.org.nz>
>> >>Sent: Tuesday, May 09, 2006 10:29 AM
>> >>Subject: RE: [sconz] damn cheap jza70
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>>Not really - it seems like a pretty nice example.
>> >>>
>> >>>-----Original Message-----
>> >>>From: bounce-54882-72@list.supras.org.nz
>> >>>[mailto:bounce-54882-72@list.supras.org.nz] On Behalf Of Looonie
>> >>>Sent: Tuesday, 9 May 2006 9:05 a.m.
>> >>>To: Supra Club of NZ Mailing List
>> >>>Subject: Re: [sconz] damn cheap jza70
>> >>>
>> >>>Sorry, too early in the morning for my brain to activate (not that
>> >>>it ever
>> >>>does)...
>> >>>
>> >>>14 year old car :)
>> >>>
>> >>>Regards
>> >>>
>> >>>Dave Thom
>> >>>Technical Manager
>> >>>Harvey Norman New Plymouth
>> >>>027 344 3938
>> >>>----- Original Message ----- From: "Peter Nield (DSL AK)"
>> >>><PeterN@datacom.co.nz>
>> >>>To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List" <sconz@list.supras.org.nz>
>> >>>Sent: Tuesday, May 09, 2006 8:55 AM
>> >>>Subject: RE: [sconz] damn cheap jza70
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>24 years old? A typo perhaps?
>> >>>
>> >>>________________________________
>> >>>
>> >>>From: bounce-54880-33@list.supras.org.nz on behalf of Looonie
>> >>>Sent: Tue 9/05/2006 08:41
>> >>>To: Supra Club of NZ Mailing List
>> >>>Subject: Re: [sconz] damn cheap jza70
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>Not really, thats expensive for a automatic 24 year old car.
>> >>>
>> >>>Regards
>> >>>
>> >>>Dave Thom
>> >>>Technical Manager
>> >>>027 344 3938
>> >>>----- Original Message -----
>> >>>From: "Matthew Adair" <prisoner45@hotmail.com>
>> >>>To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List" <sconz@list.supras.org.nz>
>> >>>Sent: Monday, May 08, 2006 6:31 PM
>> >>>Subject: [sconz] damn cheap jza70
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>>http://www.trademe.co.nz/Trade-Me-Motors/Cars/Toyota/auction-
> 56086692.htm
>> >>>>
>> >>>>damn thats cheap
>> >>>>---
>> >>>>Supra Club of New Zealand - http://www.supras.org.nz/
>> >>>>Website sponsored by Alltech Diesel & Turbocharger
>> >>>>http://www.turbo.co.nz
>> >>>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
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>> >>>Website sponsored by Alltech Diesel & Turbocharger
>> >>>http://www.turbo.co.nz
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>---
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>> >>>Website sponsored by Alltech Diesel & Turbocharger
>> >>>http://www.turbo.co.nz
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>---
>> >>>Supra Club of New Zealand - http://www.supras.org.nz/
>> >>>Website sponsored by Alltech Diesel & Turbocharger
>> >>>http://www.turbo.co.nz
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>---
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>> >>>Website sponsored by Alltech Diesel & Turbocharger
>> >>>http://www.turbo.co.nz
>> >>>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>---
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>> >>http://www.turbo.co.nz
>> >>
>> >>_________________________________________________________________
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>> >>
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>> >>
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>> >http://www.turbo.co.nz
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Re: damn cheap jza70   2006-05-09 12:29:00 <john shannon>

Well you will need dash loom, engine bay loom as 86 ma70 yellow plug, exhaust ,and there is more even the smallest thing cost money and time to do the job the you got to get a cert and that cost money, and at the end of the day the car will only be worth $2000 as its not a jza70.


From:  Marc Archbold <marc.a@paradise.net.nz>
Reply-To:  "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List" <sconz@list.supras.org.nz>
To:  "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List" <sconz@list.supras.org.nz>
Subject:  Re: [sconz] damn cheap jza70
Date:  Tue, 09 May 2006 12:13:47 +1200 (NZST)
>
>You're under estimating the cost and over simplifying the conversion.
>
>
> > How on earth do you figure it will cost more than $4000 to put a $1500
> > 1JZ-GTE with auto box, loom and ECU into an 86 MA70?
> >
> > Regards
> >
> > Dave Thom
> > Technical Manager
> > Harvey Norman New Plymouth
> > 027 344 3938
> >  ----- Original Message -----
> >  From: john shannon
> >  To: Supra Club of NZ Mailing List
> >  Sent: Tuesday, May 09, 2006 12:01 PM
> >  Subject: Re: [sconz] damn cheap jza70
> >
> >
> >  It still cost you more than $4000 to do thats, and it still will not be
> > a jza70, i paid $11,500 for mine and i think its worth every cent to me,
> > you try to find a 280hp stock car for less than $4000.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > --------------------------------------------------------
> > --------------------
> >
> >  From: "Looonie" <supras@boost.org.nz>
> >  Reply-To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List" <sconz@list.supras.org.nz>
> >  To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List" <sconz@list.supras.org.nz>
> >  Subject: Re: [sconz] damn cheap jza70
> >  Date: Tue, 9 May 2006 11:13:19 +1200
> >  >I guess I should start buying $500 86 supras and banging in $1500
> >  >automatic 1JZ-GTE's and selling them for $4,000 as everyone
> >  >obviously thinks they're worth that :)
> >  >
> >  >I'm not detracting from the car at all, I think its a bloody nice
> >  >car, and its a fair price for the vehicle. I'm disputing however
> >  >that its "cheap". MKIII's are just overpriced which is why this
> >  >looks "cheap".
> >  >
> >  >Regards
> >  >
> >  >Dave Thom
> >  >Technical Manager
> >  >Harvey Norman New Plymouth
> >  >027 344 3938
> >  >----- Original Message ----- From: "Darcy Cresswell"
> >  ><dlc702@hotmail.com>
> >  >To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List" <sconz@list.supras.org.nz>
> >  >Sent: Tuesday, May 09, 2006 11:06 AM
> >  >Subject: Re: [sconz] damn cheap jza70
> >  >
> >  >
> >  >>Id happily pay $4000 for any (driveable) car with a good running
> >  >>1jz-gte!!
> >  >>
> >  >>----Original Message Follows----
> >  >>From: "Looonie" <supras@boost.org.nz>
> >  >>Reply-To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List"
> >  >><sconz@list.supras.org.nz>
> >  >>To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List" <sconz@list.supras.org.nz>
> >  >>Subject: Re: [sconz] damn cheap jza70
> >  >>Date: Tue, 9 May 2006 10:38:40 +1200
> >  >>
> >  >>So you'd happily pay $4,500 for any 14 year old car so long as its
> >  >>in tidy condition?
> >  >>
> >  >>Regards
> >  >>
> >  >>Dave Thom
> >  >>Technical Manager
> >  >>Harvey Norman New Plymouth
> >  >>027 344 3938
> >  >>----- Original Message ----- From: "Hunt M" <5uprah@supras.co.nz>
> >  >>To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List" <sconz@list.supras.org.nz>
> >  >>Sent: Tuesday, May 09, 2006 10:29 AM
> >  >>Subject: RE: [sconz] damn cheap jza70
> >  >>
> >  >>
> >  >>>Not really - it seems like a pretty nice example.
> >  >>>
> >  >>>-----Original Message-----
> >  >>>From: bounce-54882-72@list.supras.org.nz
> >  >>>[mailto:bounce-54882-72@list.supras.org.nz] On Behalf Of Looonie
> >  >>>Sent: Tuesday, 9 May 2006 9:05 a.m.
> >  >>>To: Supra Club of NZ Mailing List
> >  >>>Subject: Re: [sconz] damn cheap jza70
> >  >>>
> >  >>>Sorry, too early in the morning for my brain to activate (not that
> >  >>>it ever
> >  >>>does)...
> >  >>>
> >  >>>14 year old car :)
> >  >>>
> >  >>>Regards
> >  >>>
> >  >>>Dave Thom
> >  >>>Technical Manager
> >  >>>Harvey Norman New Plymouth
> >  >>>027 344 3938
> >  >>>----- Original Message ----- From: "Peter Nield (DSL AK)"
> >  >>><PeterN@datacom.co.nz>
> >  >>>To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List" <sconz@list.supras.org.nz>
> >  >>>Sent: Tuesday, May 09, 2006 8:55 AM
> >  >>>Subject: RE: [sconz] damn cheap jza70
> >  >>>
> >  >>>
> >  >>>24 years old? A typo perhaps?
> >  >>>
> >  >>>________________________________
> >  >>>
> >  >>>From: bounce-54880-33@list.supras.org.nz on behalf of Looonie
> >  >>>Sent: Tue 9/05/2006 08:41
> >  >>>To: Supra Club of NZ Mailing List
> >  >>>Subject: Re: [sconz] damn cheap jza70
> >  >>>
> >  >>>
> >  >>>
> >  >>>Not really, thats expensive for a automatic 24 year old car.
> >  >>>
> >  >>>Regards
> >  >>>
> >  >>>Dave Thom
> >  >>>Technical Manager
> >  >>>027 344 3938
> >  >>>----- Original Message -----
> >  >>>From: "Matthew Adair" <prisoner45@hotmail.com>
> >  >>>To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List" <sconz@list.supras.org.nz>
> >  >>>Sent: Monday, May 08, 2006 6:31 PM
> >  >>>Subject: [sconz] damn cheap jza70
> >  >>>
> >  >>>
> >  >>>>http://www.trademe.co.nz/Trade-Me-Motors/Cars/Toyota/auction-
>56086692.htm
> >  >>>>
> >  >>>>damn thats cheap
> >  >>>>---
> >  >>>>Supra Club of New Zealand - http://www.supras.org.nz/
> >  >>>>Website sponsored by Alltech Diesel & Turbocharger
> >  >>>>http://www.turbo.co.nz
> >  >>>>
> >  >>>
> >  >>>
> >  >>>---
> >  >>>Supra Club of New Zealand - http://www.supras.org.nz/
> >  >>>Website sponsored by Alltech Diesel & Turbocharger
> >  >>>http://www.turbo.co.nz
> >  >>>
> >  >>>
> >  >>>
> >  >>>---
> >  >>>Supra Club of New Zealand - http://www.supras.org.nz/
> >  >>>Website sponsored by Alltech Diesel & Turbocharger
> >  >>>http://www.turbo.co.nz
> >  >>>
> >  >>>
> >  >>>---
> >  >>>Supra Club of New Zealand - http://www.supras.org.nz/
> >  >>>Website sponsored by Alltech Diesel & Turbocharger
> >  >>>http://www.turbo.co.nz
> >  >>>
> >  >>>
> >  >>>
> >  >>>
> >  >>>
> >  >>>---
> >  >>>Supra Club of New Zealand - http://www.supras.org.nz/
> >  >>>Website sponsored by Alltech Diesel & Turbocharger
> >  >>>http://www.turbo.co.nz
> >  >>>
> >  >>
> >  >>
> >  >>---
> >  >>Supra Club of New Zealand - http://www.supras.org.nz/
> >  >>Website sponsored by Alltech Diesel & Turbocharger
> >  >>http://www.turbo.co.nz
> >  >>
> >  >>_________________________________________________________________
> >  >>Read the latest Hollywood gossip @
> >  >>http://xtramsn.co.nz/entertainment
> >  >>
> >  >>
> >  >>---
> >  >>Supra Club of New Zealand - http://www.supras.org.nz/
> >  >>Website sponsored by Alltech Diesel & Turbocharger
> >  >>http://www.turbo.co.nz
> >  >>
> >  >
> >  >
> >  >---
> >  >Supra Club of New Zealand - http://www.supras.org.nz/
> >  >Website sponsored by Alltech Diesel & Turbocharger
> >  >http://www.turbo.co.nz
> >
> >
> >
> > -----------------------------------------------------------------------------
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> >  Website sponsored by Alltech Diesel & Turbocharger
> > http://www.turbo.co.nz
> > ---
> > Supra Club of New Zealand - http://www.supras.org.nz/
> > Website sponsored by Alltech Diesel & Turbocharger
> > http://www.turbo.co.nz
>
>
>---
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Re: damn cheap jza70   2006-05-09 12:30:00 <Looonie>
Hunt, why do you need a x-member? And since when do they cost $500? Mine just sold for about $11 on trademe.

As for the labour, I never account for that as its my own personal time and a labour of love. Obviously if you were paying somebody to do this conversion for you it would probably gear closer to $10,000.

As for it not being as good as a stock JZA70, I'd dispute that as there would be no difference (dependant on the intercooler you used obviously).

Regards

Dave Thom
Technical Manager
Harvey Norman New Plymouth
027 344 3938
----- Original Message -----
From: Hunt M
To: Supra Club of NZ Mailing List
Sent: Tuesday, May 09, 2006 12:23 PM
Subject: RE: [sconz] damn cheap jza70


Lets see
$1500 for 1JZ with auto box

$500 for x-member

$1500 for MA70 shell.

20 hours labour at $50 per hour = $1000



Oh look at that - $4,500 and you just know its not going to be as good as a stock JZA




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From: bounce-54893-72@list.supras.org.nz [mailto:bounce-54893-72@list.supras.org.nz] On Behalf Of Looonie
Sent: Tuesday, 9 May 2006 12:05 p.m.
To: Supra Club of NZ Mailing List
Subject: Re: [sconz] damn cheap jza70



How on earth do you figure it will cost more than $4000 to put a $1500 1JZ-GTE with auto box, loom and ECU into an 86 MA70?


Regards



Dave Thom
Technical Manager
Harvey Norman New Plymouth
027 344 3938

----- Original Message -----

From: john shannon

To: Supra Club of NZ Mailing List

Sent: Tuesday, May 09, 2006 12:01 PM

Subject: Re: [sconz] damn cheap jza70



It still cost you more than $4000 to do thats, and it still will not be a jza70, i paid $11,500 for mine and i think its worth every cent to me, you try to find a 280hp stock car for less than $4000.


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From: "Looonie" <supras@boost.org.nz>
Reply-To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List" <sconz@list.supras.org.nz>
To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List" <sconz@list.supras.org.nz>
Subject: Re: [sconz] damn cheap jza70
Date: Tue, 9 May 2006 11:13:19 +1200
>I guess I should start buying $500 86 supras and banging in $1500
>automatic 1JZ-GTE's and selling them for $4,000 as everyone
>obviously thinks they're worth that :)
>
>I'm not detracting from the car at all, I think its a bloody nice
>car, and its a fair price for the vehicle. I'm disputing however
>that its "cheap". MKIII's are just overpriced which is why this
>looks "cheap".
>
>Regards
>
>Dave Thom
>Technical Manager
>Harvey Norman New Plymouth
>027 344 3938
>----- Original Message ----- From: "Darcy Cresswell"
><dlc702@hotmail.com>
>To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List" <sconz@list.supras.org.nz>
>Sent: Tuesday, May 09, 2006 11:06 AM
>Subject: Re: [sconz] damn cheap jza70
>
>
>>Id happily pay $4000 for any (driveable) car with a good running
>>1jz-gte!!
>>
>>----Original Message Follows----
>>From: "Looonie" <supras@boost.org.nz>
>>Reply-To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List"
>><sconz@list.supras.org.nz>
>>To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List" <sconz@list.supras.org.nz>
>>Subject: Re: [sconz] damn cheap jza70
>>Date: Tue, 9 May 2006 10:38:40 +1200
>>
>>So you'd happily pay $4,500 for any 14 year old car so long as its
>>in tidy condition?
>>
>>Regards
>>
>>Dave Thom
>>Technical Manager
>>Harvey Norman New Plymouth
>>027 344 3938
>>----- Original Message ----- From: "Hunt M" <5uprah@supras.co.nz>
>>To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List" <sconz@list.supras.org.nz>
>>Sent: Tuesday, May 09, 2006 10:29 AM
>>Subject: RE: [sconz] damn cheap jza70
>>
>>
>>>Not really - it seems like a pretty nice example.
>>>
>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>From: bounce-54882-72@list.supras.org.nz
>>>[mailto:bounce-54882-72@list.supras.org.nz] On Behalf Of Looonie
>>>Sent: Tuesday, 9 May 2006 9:05 a.m.
>>>To: Supra Club of NZ Mailing List
>>>Subject: Re: [sconz] damn cheap jza70
>>>
>>>Sorry, too early in the morning for my brain to activate (not that
>>>it ever
>>>does)...
>>>
>>>14 year old car :)
>>>
>>>Regards
>>>
>>>Dave Thom
>>>Technical Manager
>>>Harvey Norman New Plymouth
>>>027 344 3938
>>>----- Original Message ----- From: "Peter Nield (DSL AK)"
>>><PeterN@datacom.co.nz>
>>>To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List" <sconz@list.supras.org.nz>
>>>Sent: Tuesday, May 09, 2006 8:55 AM
>>>Subject: RE: [sconz] damn cheap jza70
>>>
>>>
>>>24 years old? A typo perhaps?
>>>
>>>________________________________
>>>
>>>From: bounce-54880-33@list.supras.org.nz on behalf of Looonie
>>>Sent: Tue 9/05/2006 08:41
>>>To: Supra Club of NZ Mailing List
>>>Subject: Re: [sconz] damn cheap jza70
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>Not really, thats expensive for a automatic 24 year old car.
>>>
>>>Regards
>>>
>>>Dave Thom
>>>Technical Manager
>>>027 344 3938
>>>----- Original Message -----
>>>From: "Matthew Adair" <prisoner45@hotmail.com>
>>>To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List" <sconz@list.supras.org.nz>
>>>Sent: Monday, May 08, 2006 6:31 PM
>>>Subject: [sconz] damn cheap jza70
>>>
>>>
>>>>http://www.trademe.co.nz/Trade-Me-Motors/Cars/Toyota/auction-56086692.htm
>>>>
>>>>damn thats cheap
>>>>---
>>>>Supra Club of New Zealand - http://www.supras.org.nz/
>>>>Website sponsored by Alltech Diesel & Turbocharger
>>>>http://www.turbo.co.nz
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>---
>>>Supra Club of New Zealand - http://www.supras.org.nz/
>>>Website sponsored by Alltech Diesel & Turbocharger
>>>http://www.turbo.co.nz
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>---
>>>Supra Club of New Zealand - http://www.supras.org.nz/
>>>Website sponsored by Alltech Diesel & Turbocharger
>>>http://www.turbo.co.nz
>>>
>>>
>>>---
>>>Supra Club of New Zealand - http://www.supras.org.nz/
>>>Website sponsored by Alltech Diesel & Turbocharger
>>>http://www.turbo.co.nz
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>---
>>>Supra Club of New Zealand - http://www.supras.org.nz/
>>>Website sponsored by Alltech Diesel & Turbocharger
>>>http://www.turbo.co.nz
>>>
>>
>>
>>---
>>Supra Club of New Zealand - http://www.supras.org.nz/
>>Website sponsored by Alltech Diesel & Turbocharger
>>http://www.turbo.co.nz
>>
>>_________________________________________________________________
>>Read the latest Hollywood gossip @
>>http://xtramsn.co.nz/entertainment
>>
>>
>>---
>>Supra Club of New Zealand - http://www.supras.org.nz/
>>Website sponsored by Alltech Diesel & Turbocharger
>>http://www.turbo.co.nz
>>
>
>
>---
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>http://www.turbo.co.nz





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Re: damn cheap jza70   2006-05-09 12:37:00 <john shannon>

lol now your taking the piss, you say just put a 1jz into a ma70 shell and thay are the same as a jza70 it will never be the same.


From: "Looonie" <supras@boost.org.nz>
Reply-To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List" <sconz@list.supras.org.nz>
To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List" <sconz@list.supras.org.nz>
Subject: Re: [sconz] damn cheap jza70
Date: Tue, 9 May 2006 12:29:41 +1200

Hunt, why do you need a x-member? And since when do they cost $500? Mine just sold for about $11 on trademe.
 
As for the labour, I never account for that as its my own personal time and a labour of love. Obviously if you were paying somebody to do this conversion for you it would probably gear closer to $10,000.
 
As for it not being as good as a stock JZA70, I'd dispute that as there would be no difference (dependant on the intercooler you used obviously).

Regards
 
Dave Thom
Technical Manager
Harvey Norman New Plymouth
027 344 3938
----- Original Message -----
From: Hunt M
Sent: Tuesday, May 09, 2006 12:23 PM
Subject: RE: [sconz] damn cheap jza70

Lets see
$1500 for 1JZ with auto box

$500 for x-member

$1500 for MA70 shell.

20 hours labour at $50 per hour = $1000

 

Oh look at that – $4,500 and you just know its not going to be as good as a stock JZA

 


From: bounce-54893-72@list.supras.org.nz [mailto:bounce-54893-72@list.supras.org.nz] On Behalf Of Looonie
Sent: Tuesday, 9 May 2006 12:05 p.m.
To: Supra Club of NZ Mailing List
Subject: Re: [sconz] damn cheap jza70

 

How on earth do you figure it will cost more than $4000 to put a $1500 1JZ-GTE with auto box, loom and ECU into an 86 MA70?


Regards

 

Dave Thom
Technical Manager
Harvey Norman New Plymouth
027 344 3938

----- Original Message -----

From: john shannon

Sent: Tuesday, May 09, 2006 12:01 PM

Subject: Re: [sconz] damn cheap jza70

 

It still cost you more than $4000 to do thats, and it still will not be a jza70, i paid $11,500 for mine and i think its worth every cent to me, you try to find a 280hp stock car for less than $4000.


From:  "Looonie" <supras@boost.org.nz>
Reply-To:  "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List" <sconz@list.supras.org.nz>
To:  "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List" <sconz@list.supras.org.nz>
Subject:  Re: [sconz] damn cheap jza70
Date:  Tue, 9 May 2006 11:13:19 +1200
>I guess I should start buying $500 86 supras and banging in $1500
>automatic 1JZ-GTE's and selling them for $4,000 as everyone
>obviously thinks they're worth that :)
>
>I'm not detracting from the car at all, I think its a bloody nice
>car, and its a fair price for the vehicle. I'm disputing however
>that its "cheap". MKIII's are just overpriced which is why this
>looks "cheap".
>
>Regards
>
>Dave Thom
>Technical Manager
>Harvey Norman New Plymouth
>027 344 3938
>----- Original Message ----- From: "Darcy Cresswell"
><dlc702@hotmail.com>
>To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List" <sconz@list.supras.org.nz>
>Sent: Tuesday, May 09, 2006 11:06 AM
>Subject: Re: [sconz] damn cheap jza70
>
>
>>Id happily pay $4000 for any (driveable) car with a good running
>>1jz-gte!!
>>
>>----Original Message Follows----
>>From: "Looonie" <supras@boost.org.nz>
>>Reply-To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List"
>><sconz@list.supras.org.nz>
>>To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List" <sconz@list.supras.org.nz>
>>Subject: Re: [sconz] damn cheap jza70
>>Date: Tue, 9 May 2006 10:38:40 +1200
>>
>>So you'd happily pay $4,500 for any 14 year old car so long as its
>>in tidy condition?
>>
>>Regards
>>
>>Dave Thom
>>Technical Manager
>>Harvey Norman New Plymouth
>>027 344 3938
>>----- Original Message ----- From: "Hunt M" <5uprah@supras.co.nz>
>>To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List" <sconz@list.supras.org.nz>
>>Sent: Tuesday, May 09, 2006 10:29 AM
>>Subject: RE: [sconz] damn cheap jza70
>>
>>
>>>Not really - it seems like a pretty nice example.
>>>
>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>From: bounce-54882-72@list.supras.org.nz
>>>[mailto:bounce-54882-72@list.supras.org.nz] On Behalf Of Looonie
>>>Sent: Tuesday, 9 May 2006 9:05 a.m.
>>>To: Supra Club of NZ Mailing List
>>>Subject: Re: [sconz] damn cheap jza70
>>>
>>>Sorry, too early in the morning for my brain to activate (not that
>>>it ever
>>>does)...
>>>
>>>14 year old car :)
>>>
>>>Regards
>>>
>>>Dave Thom
>>>Technical Manager
>>>Harvey Norman New Plymouth
>>>027 344 3938
>>>----- Original Message ----- From: "Peter Nield (DSL AK)"
>>><PeterN@datacom.co.nz>
>>>To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List" <sconz@list.supras.org.nz>
>>>Sent: Tuesday, May 09, 2006 8:55 AM
>>>Subject: RE: [sconz] damn cheap jza70
>>>
>>>
>>>24 years old?  A typo perhaps?
>>>
>>>________________________________
>>>
>>>From: bounce-54880-33@list.supras.org.nz on behalf of Looonie
>>>Sent: Tue 9/05/2006 08:41
>>>To: Supra Club of NZ Mailing List
>>>Subject: Re: [sconz] damn cheap jza70
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>Not really, thats expensive for a automatic 24 year old car.
>>>
>>>Regards
>>>
>>>Dave Thom
>>>Technical Manager
>>>027 344 3938
>>>----- Original Message -----
>>>From: "Matthew Adair" <prisoner45@hotmail.com>
>>>To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List" <sconz@list.supras.org.nz>
>>>Sent: Monday, May 08, 2006 6:31 PM
>>>Subject: [sconz] damn cheap jza70
>>>
>>>
>>>>http://www.trademe.co.nz/Trade-Me-Motors/Cars/Toyota/auction-56086692.htm
>>>>
>>>>damn thats cheap
>>>>---
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>>>>
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Re: damn cheap jza70   2006-05-09 12:43:00 <Looonie>
*shrug* I guess I'll find that out for sure in the next couple of weeks. So far as I am aware there is no difference between an 89.5+ MA70 cross-member and a JZA70 cross-member.

What differences are there between a JZA70 and an MA70? Other than the engine and gearbox? Please list them.

Regards

Dave Thom
Technical Manager
Harvey Norman New Plymouth
027 344 3938
----- Original Message -----
From: john shannon
To: Supra Club of NZ Mailing List
Sent: Tuesday, May 09, 2006 12:37 PM
Subject: Re: [sconz] damn cheap jza70


lol now your taking the piss, you say just put a 1jz into a ma70 shell and thay are the same as a jza70 it will never be the same.




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From: "Looonie" <supras@boost.org.nz>
Reply-To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List" <sconz@list.supras.org.nz>
To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List" <sconz@list.supras.org.nz>
Subject: Re: [sconz] damn cheap jza70
Date: Tue, 9 May 2006 12:29:41 +1200


Hunt, why do you need a x-member? And since when do they cost $500? Mine just sold for about $11 on trademe.

As for the labour, I never account for that as its my own personal time and a labour of love. Obviously if you were paying somebody to do this conversion for you it would probably gear closer to $10,000.

As for it not being as good as a stock JZA70, I'd dispute that as there would be no difference (dependant on the intercooler you used obviously).

Regards

Dave Thom
Technical Manager
Harvey Norman New Plymouth
027 344 3938
----- Original Message -----
From: Hunt M
To: Supra Club of NZ Mailing List
Sent: Tuesday, May 09, 2006 12:23 PM
Subject: RE: [sconz] damn cheap jza70


Lets see
$1500 for 1JZ with auto box

$500 for x-member

$1500 for MA70 shell.

20 hours labour at $50 per hour = $1000



Oh look at that - $4,500 and you just know its not going to be as good as a stock JZA




--------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: bounce-54893-72@list.supras.org.nz [mailto:bounce-54893-72@list.supras.org.nz] On Behalf Of Looonie
Sent: Tuesday, 9 May 2006 12:05 p.m.
To: Supra Club of NZ Mailing List
Subject: Re: [sconz] damn cheap jza70



How on earth do you figure it will cost more than $4000 to put a $1500 1JZ-GTE with auto box, loom and ECU into an 86 MA70?


Regards



Dave Thom
Technical Manager
Harvey Norman New Plymouth
027 344 3938

----- Original Message -----

From: john shannon

To: Supra Club of NZ Mailing List

Sent: Tuesday, May 09, 2006 12:01 PM

Subject: Re: [sconz] damn cheap jza70



It still cost you more than $4000 to do thats, and it still will not be a jza70, i paid $11,500 for mine and i think its worth every cent to me, you try to find a 280hp stock car for less than $4000.


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From: "Looonie" <supras@boost.org.nz>
Reply-To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List" <sconz@list.supras.org.nz>
To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List" <sconz@list.supras.org.nz>
Subject: Re: [sconz] damn cheap jza70
Date: Tue, 9 May 2006 11:13:19 +1200
>I guess I should start buying $500 86 supras and banging in $1500
>automatic 1JZ-GTE's and selling them for $4,000 as everyone
>obviously thinks they're worth that :)
>
>I'm not detracting from the car at all, I think its a bloody nice
>car, and its a fair price for the vehicle. I'm disputing however
>that its "cheap". MKIII's are just overpriced which is why this
>looks "cheap".
>
>Regards
>
>Dave Thom
>Technical Manager
>Harvey Norman New Plymouth
>027 344 3938
>----- Original Message ----- From: "Darcy Cresswell"
><dlc702@hotmail.com>
>To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List" <sconz@list.supras.org.nz>
>Sent: Tuesday, May 09, 2006 11:06 AM
>Subject: Re: [sconz] damn cheap jza70
>
>
>>Id happily pay $4000 for any (driveable) car with a good running
>>1jz-gte!!
>>
>>----Original Message Follows----
>>From: "Looonie" <supras@boost.org.nz>
>>Reply-To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List"
>><sconz@list.supras.org.nz>
>>To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List" <sconz@list.supras.org.nz>
>>Subject: Re: [sconz] damn cheap jza70
>>Date: Tue, 9 May 2006 10:38:40 +1200
>>
>>So you'd happily pay $4,500 for any 14 year old car so long as its
>>in tidy condition?
>>
>>Regards
>>
>>Dave Thom
>>Technical Manager
>>Harvey Norman New Plymouth
>>027 344 3938
>>----- Original Message ----- From: "Hunt M" <5uprah@supras.co.nz>
>>To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List" <sconz@list.supras.org.nz>
>>Sent: Tuesday, May 09, 2006 10:29 AM
>>Subject: RE: [sconz] damn cheap jza70
>>
>>
>>>Not really - it seems like a pretty nice example.
>>>
>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>From: bounce-54882-72@list.supras.org.nz
>>>[mailto:bounce-54882-72@list.supras.org.nz] On Behalf Of Looonie
>>>Sent: Tuesday, 9 May 2006 9:05 a.m.
>>>To: Supra Club of NZ Mailing List
>>>Subject: Re: [sconz] damn cheap jza70
>>>
>>>Sorry, too early in the morning for my brain to activate (not that
>>>it ever
>>>does)...
>>>
>>>14 year old car :)
>>>
>>>Regards
>>>
>>>Dave Thom
>>>Technical Manager
>>>Harvey Norman New Plymouth
>>>027 344 3938
>>>----- Original Message ----- From: "Peter Nield (DSL AK)"
>>><PeterN@datacom.co.nz>
>>>To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List" <sconz@list.supras.org.nz>
>>>Sent: Tuesday, May 09, 2006 8:55 AM
>>>Subject: RE: [sconz] damn cheap jza70
>>>
>>>
>>>24 years old? A typo perhaps?
>>>
>>>________________________________
>>>
>>>From: bounce-54880-33@list.supras.org.nz on behalf of Looonie
>>>Sent: Tue 9/05/2006 08:41
>>>To: Supra Club of NZ Mailing List
>>>Subject: Re: [sconz] damn cheap jza70
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>Not really, thats expensive for a automatic 24 year old car.
>>>
>>>Regards
>>>
>>>Dave Thom
>>>Technical Manager
>>>027 344 3938
>>>----- Original Message -----
>>>From: "Matthew Adair" <prisoner45@hotmail.com>
>>>To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List" <sconz@list.supras.org.nz>
>>>Sent: Monday, May 08, 2006 6:31 PM
>>>Subject: [sconz] damn cheap jza70
>>>
>>>
>>>>http://www.trademe.co.nz/Trade-Me-Motors/Cars/Toyota/auction-56086692.htm
>>>>
>>>>damn thats cheap
>>>>---
>>>>Supra Club of New Zealand - http://www.supras.org.nz/
>>>>Website sponsored by Alltech Diesel & Turbocharger
>>>>http://www.turbo.co.nz
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>---
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>>>
>>>
>>>
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>>>http://www.turbo.co.nz
>>>
>>>
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>>>Website sponsored by Alltech Diesel & Turbocharger
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>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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>>>Website sponsored by Alltech Diesel & Turbocharger
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>>
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>>
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RE: damn cheap jza70   2006-05-09 12:49:00 <Hunt M>
You never said 89+ - you said 86



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From: bounce-54904-72@list.supras.org.nz
[mailto:bounce-54904-72@list.supras.org.nz] On Behalf Of Looonie
Sent: Tuesday, 9 May 2006 12:43 p.m.
To: Supra Club of NZ Mailing List
Subject: Re: [sconz] damn cheap jza70



*shrug* I guess I'll find that out for sure in the next couple of weeks. So
far as I am aware there is no difference between an 89.5+ MA70 cross-member
and a JZA70 cross-member.



What differences are there between a JZA70 and an MA70? Other than the
engine and gearbox? Please list them.


Regards



Dave Thom
Technical Manager
Harvey Norman New Plymouth
027 344 3938

----- Original Message -----

From: john <mailto:jshannon55@hotmail.com> shannon

To: Supra <mailto:sconz@list.supras.org.nz> Club of NZ Mailing List

Sent: Tuesday, May 09, 2006 12:37 PM

Subject: Re: [sconz] damn cheap jza70



lol now your taking the piss, you say just put a 1jz into a ma70 shell and
thay are the same as a jza70 it will never be the same.


_____


From: "Looonie" <supras@boost.org.nz>
Reply-To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List" <sconz@list.supras.org.nz>
To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List" <sconz@list.supras.org.nz>
Subject: Re: [sconz] damn cheap jza70
Date: Tue, 9 May 2006 12:29:41 +1200

Hunt, why do you need a x-member? And since when do they cost $500? Mine
just sold for about $11 on trademe.



As for the labour, I never account for that as its my own personal time and
a labour of love. Obviously if you were paying somebody to do this
conversion for you it would probably gear closer to $10,000.



As for it not being as good as a stock JZA70, I'd dispute that as there
would be no difference (dependant on the intercooler you used obviously).


Regards



Dave Thom
Technical Manager
Harvey Norman New Plymouth
027 344 3938

----- Original Message -----

From: Hunt M <mailto:5uprah@supras.co.nz>

To: Supra <mailto:sconz@list.supras.org.nz> Club of NZ Mailing List

Sent: Tuesday, May 09, 2006 12:23 PM

Subject: RE: [sconz] damn cheap jza70



Lets see
$1500 for 1JZ with auto box

$500 for x-member

$1500 for MA70 shell.

20 hours labour at $50 per hour = $1000



Oh look at that - $4,500 and you just know its not going to be as good as a
stock JZA




_____


From: bounce-54893-72@list.supras.org.nz
[mailto:bounce-54893-72@list.supras.org.nz] On Behalf Of Looonie
Sent: Tuesday, 9 May 2006 12:05 p.m.
To: Supra Club of NZ Mailing List
Subject: Re: [sconz] damn cheap jza70



How on earth do you figure it will cost more than $4000 to put a $1500
1JZ-GTE with auto box, loom and ECU into an 86 MA70?


Regards



Dave Thom
Technical Manager
Harvey Norman New Plymouth
027 344 3938

----- Original Message -----

From: john <mailto:jshannon55@hotmail.com> shannon

To: Supra <mailto:sconz@list.supras.org.nz> Club of NZ Mailing List

Sent: Tuesday, May 09, 2006 12:01 PM

Subject: Re: [sconz] damn cheap jza70



It still cost you more than $4000 to do thats, and it still will not be a
jza70, i paid $11,500 for mine and i think its worth every cent to me, you
try to find a 280hp stock car for less than $4000.


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From: "Looonie" <supras@boost.org.nz>
Reply-To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List" <sconz@list.supras.org.nz>
To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List" <sconz@list.supras.org.nz>
Subject: Re: [sconz] damn cheap jza70
Date: Tue, 9 May 2006 11:13:19 +1200
>I guess I should start buying $500 86 supras and banging in $1500
>automatic 1JZ-GTE's and selling them for $4,000 as everyone
>obviously thinks they're worth that :)
>
>I'm not detracting from the car at all, I think its a bloody nice
>car, and its a fair price for the vehicle. I'm disputing however
>that its "cheap". MKIII's are just overpriced which is why this
>looks "cheap".
>
>Regards
>
>Dave Thom
>Technical Manager
>Harvey Norman New Plymouth
>027 344 3938
>----- Original Message ----- From: "Darcy Cresswell"
><dlc702@hotmail.com>
>To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List" <sconz@list.supras.org.nz>
>Sent: Tuesday, May 09, 2006 11:06 AM
>Subject: Re: [sconz] damn cheap jza70
>
>
>>Id happily pay $4000 for any (driveable) car with a good running
>>1jz-gte!!
>>
>>----Original Message Follows----
>>From: "Looonie" <supras@boost.org.nz>
>>Reply-To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List"
>><sconz@list.supras.org.nz>
>>To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List" <sconz@list.supras.org.nz>
>>Subject: Re: [sconz] damn cheap jza70
>>Date: Tue, 9 May 2006 10:38:40 +1200
>>
>>So you'd happily pay $4,500 for any 14 year old car so long as its
>>in tidy condition?
>>
>>Regards
>>
>>Dave Thom
>>Technical Manager
>>Harvey Norman New Plymouth
>>027 344 3938
>>----- Original Message ----- From: "Hunt M" <5uprah@supras.co.nz>
>>To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List" <sconz@list.supras.org.nz>
>>Sent: Tuesday, May 09, 2006 10:29 AM
>>Subject: RE: [sconz] damn cheap jza70
>>
>>
>>>Not really - it seems like a pretty nice example.
>>>
>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>From: bounce-54882-72@list.supras.org.nz
>>>[mailto:bounce-54882-72@list.supras.org.nz] On Behalf Of Looonie
>>>Sent: Tuesday, 9 May 2006 9:05 a.m.
>>>To: Supra Club of NZ Mailing List
>>>Subject: Re: [sconz] damn cheap jza70
>>>
>>>Sorry, too early in the morning for my brain to activate (not that
>>>it ever
>>>does)...
>>>
>>>14 year old car :)
>>>
>>>Regards
>>>
>>>Dave Thom
>>>Technical Manager
>>>Harvey Norman New Plymouth
>>>027 344 3938
>>>----- Original Message ----- From: "Peter Nield (DSL AK)"
>>><PeterN@datacom.co.nz>
>>>To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List" <sconz@list.supras.org.nz>
>>>Sent: Tuesday, May 09, 2006 8:55 AM
>>>Subject: RE: [sconz] damn cheap jza70
>>>
>>>
>>>24 years old? A typo perhaps?
>>>
>>>________________________________
>>>
>>>From: bounce-54880-33@list.supras.org.nz on behalf of Looonie
>>>Sent: Tue 9/05/2006 08:41
>>>To: Supra Club of NZ Mailing List
>>>Subject: Re: [sconz] damn cheap jza70
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>Not really, thats expensive for a automatic 24 year old car.
>>>
>>>Regards
>>>
>>>Dave Thom
>>>Technical Manager
>>>027 344 3938
>>>----- Original Message -----
>>>From: "Matthew Adair" <prisoner45@hotmail.com>
>>>To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List" <sconz@list.supras.org.nz>
>>>Sent: Monday, May 08, 2006 6:31 PM
>>>Subject: [sconz] damn cheap jza70
>>>
>>>
>>>>http://www.trademe.co.nz/Trade-Me-Motors/Cars/Toyota/auction-56086692.ht
m
>>>>
>>>>damn thats cheap
>>>>---
>>>>Supra Club of New Zealand - http://www.supras.org.nz/
>>>>Website sponsored by Alltech Diesel & Turbocharger
>>>>http://www.turbo.co.nz
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>---
>>>Supra Club of New Zealand - http://www.supras.org.nz/
>>>Website sponsored by Alltech Diesel & Turbocharger
>>>http://www.turbo.co.nz
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>---
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>>>Website sponsored by Alltech Diesel & Turbocharger
>>>http://www.turbo.co.nz
>>>
>>>
>>>---
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>>>http://www.turbo.co.nz
>>>
>>>
>>>
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>>>
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>>>Website sponsored by Alltech Diesel & Turbocharger
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Re: damn cheap jza70   2006-05-09 12:50:00 <john shannon>

all i can say on that one is, if you were looking to buy a jza70 would you pay the same for a ma70 with a 1jz in it.


From: "Looonie" <supras@boost.org.nz>
Reply-To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List" <sconz@list.supras.org.nz>
To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List" <sconz@list.supras.org.nz>
Subject: Re: [sconz] damn cheap jza70
Date: Tue, 9 May 2006 12:43:09 +1200

*shrug* I guess I'll find that out for sure in the next couple of weeks. So far as I am aware there is no difference between an 89.5+ MA70 cross-member and a JZA70 cross-member.
 
What differences are there between a JZA70 and an MA70?  Other than the engine and gearbox? Please list them.

Regards
 
Dave Thom
Technical Manager
Harvey Norman New Plymouth
027 344 3938
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, May 09, 2006 12:37 PM
Subject: Re: [sconz] damn cheap jza70

lol now your taking the piss, you say just put a 1jz into a ma70 shell and thay are the same as a jza70 it will never be the same.


From: "Looonie" <supras@boost.org.nz>
Reply-To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List" <sconz@list.supras.org.nz>
To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List" <sconz@list.supras.org.nz>
Subject: Re: [sconz] damn cheap jza70
Date: Tue, 9 May 2006 12:29:41 +1200

Hunt, why do you need a x-member? And since when do they cost $500? Mine just sold for about $11 on trademe.
 
As for the labour, I never account for that as its my own personal time and a labour of love. Obviously if you were paying somebody to do this conversion for you it would probably gear closer to $10,000.
 
As for it not being as good as a stock JZA70, I'd dispute that as there would be no difference (dependant on the intercooler you used obviously).

Regards
 
Dave Thom
Technical Manager
Harvey Norman New Plymouth
027 344 3938
----- Original Message -----
From: Hunt M
Sent: Tuesday, May 09, 2006 12:23 PM
Subject: RE: [sconz] damn cheap jza70

Lets see
$1500 for 1JZ with auto box

$500 for x-member

$1500 for MA70 shell.

20 hours labour at $50 per hour = $1000

 

Oh look at that – $4,500 and you just know its not going to be as good as a stock JZA

 


From: bounce-54893-72@list.supras.org.nz [mailto:bounce-54893-72@list.supras.org.nz] On Behalf Of Looonie
Sent: Tuesday, 9 May 2006 12:05 p.m.
To: Supra Club of NZ Mailing List
Subject: Re: [sconz] damn cheap jza70

 

How on earth do you figure it will cost more than $4000 to put a $1500 1JZ-GTE with auto box, loom and ECU into an 86 MA70?


Regards

 

Dave Thom
Technical Manager
Harvey Norman New Plymouth
027 344 3938

----- Original Message -----

From: john shannon

Sent: Tuesday, May 09, 2006 12:01 PM

Subject: Re: [sconz] damn cheap jza70

 

It still cost you more than $4000 to do thats, and it still will not be a jza70, i paid $11,500 for mine and i think its worth every cent to me, you try to find a 280hp stock car for less than $4000.


From:  "Looonie" <supras@boost.org.nz>
Reply-To:  "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List" <sconz@list.supras.org.nz>
To:  "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List" <sconz@list.supras.org.nz>
Subject:  Re: [sconz] damn cheap jza70
Date:  Tue, 9 May 2006 11:13:19 +1200
>I guess I should start buying $500 86 supras and banging in $1500
>automatic 1JZ-GTE's and selling them for $4,000 as everyone
>obviously thinks they're worth that :)
>
>I'm not detracting from the car at all, I think its a bloody nice
>car, and its a fair price for the vehicle. I'm disputing however
>that its "cheap". MKIII's are just overpriced which is why this
>looks "cheap".
>
>Regards
>
>Dave Thom
>Technical Manager
>Harvey Norman New Plymouth
>027 344 3938
>----- Original Message ----- From: "Darcy Cresswell"
><dlc702@hotmail.com>
>To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List" <sconz@list.supras.org.nz>
>Sent: Tuesday, May 09, 2006 11:06 AM
>Subject: Re: [sconz] damn cheap jza70
>
>
>>Id happily pay $4000 for any (driveable) car with a good running
>>1jz-gte!!
>>
>>----Original Message Follows----
>>From: "Looonie" <supras@boost.org.nz>
>>Reply-To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List"
>><sconz@list.supras.org.nz>
>>To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List" <sconz@list.supras.org.nz>
>>Subject: Re: [sconz] damn cheap jza70
>>Date: Tue, 9 May 2006 10:38:40 +1200
>>
>>So you'd happily pay $4,500 for any 14 year old car so long as its
>>in tidy condition?
>>
>>Regards
>>
>>Dave Thom
>>Technical Manager
>>Harvey Norman New Plymouth
>>027 344 3938
>>----- Original Message ----- From: "Hunt M" <5uprah@supras.co.nz>
>>To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List" <sconz@list.supras.org.nz>
>>Sent: Tuesday, May 09, 2006 10:29 AM
>>Subject: RE: [sconz] damn cheap jza70
>>
>>
>>>Not really - it seems like a pretty nice example.
>>>
>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>From: bounce-54882-72@list.supras.org.nz
>>>[mailto:bounce-54882-72@list.supras.org.nz] On Behalf Of Looonie
>>>Sent: Tuesday, 9 May 2006 9:05 a.m.
>>>To: Supra Club of NZ Mailing List
>>>Subject: Re: [sconz] damn cheap jza70
>>>
>>>Sorry, too early in the morning for my brain to activate (not that
>>>it ever
>>>does)...
>>>
>>>14 year old car :)
>>>
>>>Regards
>>>
>>>Dave Thom
>>>Technical Manager
>>>Harvey Norman New Plymouth
>>>027 344 3938
>>>----- Original Message ----- From: "Peter Nield (DSL AK)"
>>><PeterN@datacom.co.nz>
>>>To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List" <sconz@list.supras.org.nz>
>>>Sent: Tuesday, May 09, 2006 8:55 AM
>>>Subject: RE: [sconz] damn cheap jza70
>>>
>>>
>>>24 years old?  A typo perhaps?
>>>
>>>________________________________
>>>
>>>From: bounce-54880-33@list.supras.org.nz on behalf of Looonie
>>>Sent: Tue 9/05/2006 08:41
>>>To: Supra Club of NZ Mailing List
>>>Subject: Re: [sconz] damn cheap jza70
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>Not really, thats expensive for a automatic 24 year old car.
>>>
>>>Regards
>>>
>>>Dave Thom
>>>Technical Manager
>>>027 344 3938
>>>----- Original Message -----
>>>From: "Matthew Adair" <prisoner45@hotmail.com>
>>>To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List" <sconz@list.supras.org.nz>
>>>Sent: Monday, May 08, 2006 6:31 PM
>>>Subject: [sconz] damn cheap jza70
>>>
>>>
>>>>http://www.trademe.co.nz/Trade-Me-Motors/Cars/Toyota/auction-56086692.htm
>>>>
>>>>damn thats cheap
>>>>---
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>>>>Website sponsored by Alltech Diesel & Turbocharger
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>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>---
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>>>
>>>
>>>
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>>>
>>>
>>>---
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>>>Website sponsored by Alltech Diesel & Turbocharger
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>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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>>>Website sponsored by Alltech Diesel & Turbocharger
>>>http://www.turbo.co.nz
>>>
>>
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Re: damn cheap jza70   2006-05-09 12:53:00 <john shannon>

Same as a ma70 turbo A, are thay worth the same as a stock ma70


From: "Looonie" <supras@boost.org.nz>
Reply-To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List" <sconz@list.supras.org.nz>
To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List" <sconz@list.supras.org.nz>
Subject: Re: [sconz] damn cheap jza70
Date: Tue, 9 May 2006 12:43:09 +1200

*shrug* I guess I'll find that out for sure in the next couple of weeks. So far as I am aware there is no difference between an 89.5+ MA70 cross-member and a JZA70 cross-member.
 
What differences are there between a JZA70 and an MA70?  Other than the engine and gearbox? Please list them.

Regards
 
Dave Thom
Technical Manager
Harvey Norman New Plymouth
027 344 3938
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, May 09, 2006 12:37 PM
Subject: Re: [sconz] damn cheap jza70

lol now your taking the piss, you say just put a 1jz into a ma70 shell and thay are the same as a jza70 it will never be the same.


From: "Looonie" <supras@boost.org.nz>
Reply-To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List" <sconz@list.supras.org.nz>
To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List" <sconz@list.supras.org.nz>
Subject: Re: [sconz] damn cheap jza70
Date: Tue, 9 May 2006 12:29:41 +1200

Hunt, why do you need a x-member? And since when do they cost $500? Mine just sold for about $11 on trademe.
 
As for the labour, I never account for that as its my own personal time and a labour of love. Obviously if you were paying somebody to do this conversion for you it would probably gear closer to $10,000.
 
As for it not being as good as a stock JZA70, I'd dispute that as there would be no difference (dependant on the intercooler you used obviously).

Regards
 
Dave Thom
Technical Manager
Harvey Norman New Plymouth
027 344 3938
----- Original Message -----
From: Hunt M
Sent: Tuesday, May 09, 2006 12:23 PM
Subject: RE: [sconz] damn cheap jza70

Lets see
$1500 for 1JZ with auto box

$500 for x-member

$1500 for MA70 shell.

20 hours labour at $50 per hour = $1000

 

Oh look at that – $4,500 and you just know its not going to be as good as a stock JZA

 


From: bounce-54893-72@list.supras.org.nz [mailto:bounce-54893-72@list.supras.org.nz] On Behalf Of Looonie
Sent: Tuesday, 9 May 2006 12:05 p.m.
To: Supra Club of NZ Mailing List
Subject: Re: [sconz] damn cheap jza70

 

How on earth do you figure it will cost more than $4000 to put a $1500 1JZ-GTE with auto box, loom and ECU into an 86 MA70?


Regards

 

Dave Thom
Technical Manager
Harvey Norman New Plymouth
027 344 3938

----- Original Message -----

From: john shannon

Sent: Tuesday, May 09, 2006 12:01 PM

Subject: Re: [sconz] damn cheap jza70

 

It still cost you more than $4000 to do thats, and it still will not be a jza70, i paid $11,500 for mine and i think its worth every cent to me, you try to find a 280hp stock car for less than $4000.


From:  "Looonie" <supras@boost.org.nz>
Reply-To:  "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List" <sconz@list.supras.org.nz>
To:  "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List" <sconz@list.supras.org.nz>
Subject:  Re: [sconz] damn cheap jza70
Date:  Tue, 9 May 2006 11:13:19 +1200
>I guess I should start buying $500 86 supras and banging in $1500
>automatic 1JZ-GTE's and selling them for $4,000 as everyone
>obviously thinks they're worth that :)
>
>I'm not detracting from the car at all, I think its a bloody nice
>car, and its a fair price for the vehicle. I'm disputing however
>that its "cheap". MKIII's are just overpriced which is why this
>looks "cheap".
>
>Regards
>
>Dave Thom
>Technical Manager
>Harvey Norman New Plymouth
>027 344 3938
>----- Original Message ----- From: "Darcy Cresswell"
><dlc702@hotmail.com>
>To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List" <sconz@list.supras.org.nz>
>Sent: Tuesday, May 09, 2006 11:06 AM
>Subject: Re: [sconz] damn cheap jza70
>
>
>>Id happily pay $4000 for any (driveable) car with a good running
>>1jz-gte!!
>>
>>----Original Message Follows----
>>From: "Looonie" <supras@boost.org.nz>
>>Reply-To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List"
>><sconz@list.supras.org.nz>
>>To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List" <sconz@list.supras.org.nz>
>>Subject: Re: [sconz] damn cheap jza70
>>Date: Tue, 9 May 2006 10:38:40 +1200
>>
>>So you'd happily pay $4,500 for any 14 year old car so long as its
>>in tidy condition?
>>
>>Regards
>>
>>Dave Thom
>>Technical Manager
>>Harvey Norman New Plymouth
>>027 344 3938
>>----- Original Message ----- From: "Hunt M" <5uprah@supras.co.nz>
>>To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List" <sconz@list.supras.org.nz>
>>Sent: Tuesday, May 09, 2006 10:29 AM
>>Subject: RE: [sconz] damn cheap jza70
>>
>>
>>>Not really - it seems like a pretty nice example.
>>>
>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>From: bounce-54882-72@list.supras.org.nz
>>>[mailto:bounce-54882-72@list.supras.org.nz] On Behalf Of Looonie
>>>Sent: Tuesday, 9 May 2006 9:05 a.m.
>>>To: Supra Club of NZ Mailing List
>>>Subject: Re: [sconz] damn cheap jza70
>>>
>>>Sorry, too early in the morning for my brain to activate (not that
>>>it ever
>>>does)...
>>>
>>>14 year old car :)
>>>
>>>Regards
>>>
>>>Dave Thom
>>>Technical Manager
>>>Harvey Norman New Plymouth
>>>027 344 3938
>>>----- Original Message ----- From: "Peter Nield (DSL AK)"
>>><PeterN@datacom.co.nz>
>>>To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List" <sconz@list.supras.org.nz>
>>>Sent: Tuesday, May 09, 2006 8:55 AM
>>>Subject: RE: [sconz] damn cheap jza70
>>>
>>>
>>>24 years old?  A typo perhaps?
>>>
>>>________________________________
>>>
>>>From: bounce-54880-33@list.supras.org.nz on behalf of Looonie
>>>Sent: Tue 9/05/2006 08:41
>>>To: Supra Club of NZ Mailing List
>>>Subject: Re: [sconz] damn cheap jza70
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>Not really, thats expensive for a automatic 24 year old car.
>>>
>>>Regards
>>>
>>>Dave Thom
>>>Technical Manager
>>>027 344 3938
>>>----- Original Message -----
>>>From: "Matthew Adair" <prisoner45@hotmail.com>
>>>To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List" <sconz@list.supras.org.nz>
>>>Sent: Monday, May 08, 2006 6:31 PM
>>>Subject: [sconz] damn cheap jza70
>>>
>>>
>>>>http://www.trademe.co.nz/Trade-Me-Motors/Cars/Toyota/auction-56086692.htm
>>>>
>>>>damn thats cheap
>>>>---
>>>>Supra Club of New Zealand - http://www.supras.org.nz/
>>>>Website sponsored by Alltech Diesel & Turbocharger
>>>>http://www.turbo.co.nz
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>---
>>>Supra Club of New Zealand - http://www.supras.org.nz/
>>>Website sponsored by Alltech Diesel & Turbocharger
>>>http://www.turbo.co.nz
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>---
>>>Supra Club of New Zealand - http://www.supras.org.nz/
>>>Website sponsored by Alltech Diesel & Turbocharger
>>>http://www.turbo.co.nz
>>>
>>>
>>>---
>>>Supra Club of New Zealand - http://www.supras.org.nz/
>>>Website sponsored by Alltech Diesel & Turbocharger
>>>http://www.turbo.co.nz
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>---
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>>>Website sponsored by Alltech Diesel & Turbocharger
>>>http://www.turbo.co.nz
>>>
>>
>>
>>---
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>>http://www.turbo.co.nz
>>
>>_________________________________________________________________
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>>
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>>
>
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Re: damn cheap jza70   2006-05-09 12:56:00 <Looonie>
That is correct, in your pricing structure however you stated 89 shell.

I believe Ian from down south can contribute something more towards the whole 1jz onto pre89 crossmember debate...

Regards

Dave Thom
Technical Manager
Harvey Norman New Plymouth
027 344 3938
----- Original Message -----
From: Hunt M
To: Supra Club of NZ Mailing List
Sent: Tuesday, May 09, 2006 12:49 PM
Subject: RE: [sconz] damn cheap jza70


You never said 89+ - you said 86




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From: bounce-54904-72@list.supras.org.nz [mailto:bounce-54904-72@list.supras.org.nz] On Behalf Of Looonie
Sent: Tuesday, 9 May 2006 12:43 p.m.
To: Supra Club of NZ Mailing List
Subject: Re: [sconz] damn cheap jza70



*shrug* I guess I'll find that out for sure in the next couple of weeks. So far as I am aware there is no difference between an 89.5+ MA70 cross-member and a JZA70 cross-member.



What differences are there between a JZA70 and an MA70? Other than the engine and gearbox? Please list them.


Regards



Dave Thom
Technical Manager
Harvey Norman New Plymouth
027 344 3938

----- Original Message -----

From: john shannon

To: Supra Club of NZ Mailing List

Sent: Tuesday, May 09, 2006 12:37 PM

Subject: Re: [sconz] damn cheap jza70



lol now your taking the piss, you say just put a 1jz into a ma70 shell and thay are the same as a jza70 it will never be the same.


--------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: "Looonie" <supras@boost.org.nz>
Reply-To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List" <sconz@list.supras.org.nz>
To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List" <sconz@list.supras.org.nz>
Subject: Re: [sconz] damn cheap jza70
Date: Tue, 9 May 2006 12:29:41 +1200

Hunt, why do you need a x-member? And since when do they cost $500? Mine just sold for about $11 on trademe.



As for the labour, I never account for that as its my own personal time and a labour of love. Obviously if you were paying somebody to do this conversion for you it would probably gear closer to $10,000.



As for it not being as good as a stock JZA70, I'd dispute that as there would be no difference (dependant on the intercooler you used obviously).


Regards



Dave Thom
Technical Manager
Harvey Norman New Plymouth
027 344 3938

----- Original Message -----

From: Hunt M

To: Supra Club of NZ Mailing List

Sent: Tuesday, May 09, 2006 12:23 PM

Subject: RE: [sconz] damn cheap jza70



Lets see
$1500 for 1JZ with auto box

$500 for x-member

$1500 for MA70 shell.

20 hours labour at $50 per hour = $1000



Oh look at that - $4,500 and you just know its not going to be as good as a stock JZA




------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: bounce-54893-72@list.supras.org.nz [mailto:bounce-54893-72@list.supras.org.nz] On Behalf Of Looonie
Sent: Tuesday, 9 May 2006 12:05 p.m.
To: Supra Club of NZ Mailing List
Subject: Re: [sconz] damn cheap jza70



How on earth do you figure it will cost more than $4000 to put a $1500 1JZ-GTE with auto box, loom and ECU into an 86 MA70?


Regards



Dave Thom
Technical Manager
Harvey Norman New Plymouth
027 344 3938

----- Original Message -----

From: john shannon

To: Supra Club of NZ Mailing List

Sent: Tuesday, May 09, 2006 12:01 PM

Subject: Re: [sconz] damn cheap jza70



It still cost you more than $4000 to do thats, and it still will not be a jza70, i paid $11,500 for mine and i think its worth every cent to me, you try to find a 280hp stock car for less than $4000.


--------------------------------------------------------------------

From: "Looonie" <supras@boost.org.nz>
Reply-To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List" <sconz@list.supras.org.nz>
To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List" <sconz@list.supras.org.nz>
Subject: Re: [sconz] damn cheap jza70
Date: Tue, 9 May 2006 11:13:19 +1200
>I guess I should start buying $500 86 supras and banging in $1500
>automatic 1JZ-GTE's and selling them for $4,000 as everyone
>obviously thinks they're worth that :)
>
>I'm not detracting from the car at all, I think its a bloody nice
>car, and its a fair price for the vehicle. I'm disputing however
>that its "cheap". MKIII's are just overpriced which is why this
>looks "cheap".
>
>Regards
>
>Dave Thom
>Technical Manager
>Harvey Norman New Plymouth
>027 344 3938
>----- Original Message ----- From: "Darcy Cresswell"
><dlc702@hotmail.com>
>To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List" <sconz@list.supras.org.nz>
>Sent: Tuesday, May 09, 2006 11:06 AM
>Subject: Re: [sconz] damn cheap jza70
>
>
>>Id happily pay $4000 for any (driveable) car with a good running
>>1jz-gte!!
>>
>>----Original Message Follows----
>>From: "Looonie" <supras@boost.org.nz>
>>Reply-To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List"
>><sconz@list.supras.org.nz>
>>To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List" <sconz@list.supras.org.nz>
>>Subject: Re: [sconz] damn cheap jza70
>>Date: Tue, 9 May 2006 10:38:40 +1200
>>
>>So you'd happily pay $4,500 for any 14 year old car so long as its
>>in tidy condition?
>>
>>Regards
>>
>>Dave Thom
>>Technical Manager
>>Harvey Norman New Plymouth
>>027 344 3938
>>----- Original Message ----- From: "Hunt M" <5uprah@supras.co.nz>
>>To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List" <sconz@list.supras.org.nz>
>>Sent: Tuesday, May 09, 2006 10:29 AM
>>Subject: RE: [sconz] damn cheap jza70
>>
>>
>>>Not really - it seems like a pretty nice example.
>>>
>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>From: bounce-54882-72@list.supras.org.nz
>>>[mailto:bounce-54882-72@list.supras.org.nz] On Behalf Of Looonie
>>>Sent: Tuesday, 9 May 2006 9:05 a.m.
>>>To: Supra Club of NZ Mailing List
>>>Subject: Re: [sconz] damn cheap jza70
>>>
>>>Sorry, too early in the morning for my brain to activate (not that
>>>it ever
>>>does)...
>>>
>>>14 year old car :)
>>>
>>>Regards
>>>
>>>Dave Thom
>>>Technical Manager
>>>Harvey Norman New Plymouth
>>>027 344 3938
>>>----- Original Message ----- From: "Peter Nield (DSL AK)"
>>><PeterN@datacom.co.nz>
>>>To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List" <sconz@list.supras.org.nz>
>>>Sent: Tuesday, May 09, 2006 8:55 AM
>>>Subject: RE: [sconz] damn cheap jza70
>>>
>>>
>>>24 years old? A typo perhaps?
>>>
>>>________________________________
>>>
>>>From: bounce-54880-33@list.supras.org.nz on behalf of Looonie
>>>Sent: Tue 9/05/2006 08:41
>>>To: Supra Club of NZ Mailing List
>>>Subject: Re: [sconz] damn cheap jza70
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>Not really, thats expensive for a automatic 24 year old car.
>>>
>>>Regards
>>>
>>>Dave Thom
>>>Technical Manager
>>>027 344 3938
>>>----- Original Message -----
>>>From: "Matthew Adair" <prisoner45@hotmail.com>
>>>To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List" <sconz@list.supras.org.nz>
>>>Sent: Monday, May 08, 2006 6:31 PM
>>>Subject: [sconz] damn cheap jza70
>>>
>>>
>>>>http://www.trademe.co.nz/Trade-Me-Motors/Cars/Toyota/auction-56086692.htm
>>>>
>>>>damn thats cheap
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Re: damn cheap jza70   2006-05-09 12:57:00 <Looonie>
Don't see any reason why not, I'm not the kind of person who's fixated on over paying for a couple of letters stamped different on the firewall.

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----- Original Message -----
From: john shannon
To: Supra Club of NZ Mailing List
Sent: Tuesday, May 09, 2006 12:50 PM
Subject: Re: [sconz] damn cheap jza70


all i can say on that one is, if you were looking to buy a jza70 would you pay the same for a ma70 with a 1jz in it.




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From: "Looonie" <supras@boost.org.nz>
Reply-To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List" <sconz@list.supras.org.nz>
To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List" <sconz@list.supras.org.nz>
Subject: Re: [sconz] damn cheap jza70
Date: Tue, 9 May 2006 12:43:09 +1200


*shrug* I guess I'll find that out for sure in the next couple of weeks. So far as I am aware there is no difference between an 89.5+ MA70 cross-member and a JZA70 cross-member.

What differences are there between a JZA70 and an MA70? Other than the engine and gearbox? Please list them.

Regards

Dave Thom
Technical Manager
Harvey Norman New Plymouth
027 344 3938
----- Original Message -----
From: john shannon
To: Supra Club of NZ Mailing List
Sent: Tuesday, May 09, 2006 12:37 PM
Subject: Re: [sconz] damn cheap jza70


lol now your taking the piss, you say just put a 1jz into a ma70 shell and thay are the same as a jza70 it will never be the same.




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From: "Looonie" <supras@boost.org.nz>
Reply-To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List" <sconz@list.supras.org.nz>
To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List" <sconz@list.supras.org.nz>
Subject: Re: [sconz] damn cheap jza70
Date: Tue, 9 May 2006 12:29:41 +1200


Hunt, why do you need a x-member? And since when do they cost $500? Mine just sold for about $11 on trademe.

As for the labour, I never account for that as its my own personal time and a labour of love. Obviously if you were paying somebody to do this conversion for you it would probably gear closer to $10,000.

As for it not being as good as a stock JZA70, I'd dispute that as there would be no difference (dependant on the intercooler you used obviously).

Regards

Dave Thom
Technical Manager
Harvey Norman New Plymouth
027 344 3938
----- Original Message -----
From: Hunt M
To: Supra Club of NZ Mailing List
Sent: Tuesday, May 09, 2006 12:23 PM
Subject: RE: [sconz] damn cheap jza70


Lets see
$1500 for 1JZ with auto box

$500 for x-member

$1500 for MA70 shell.

20 hours labour at $50 per hour = $1000



Oh look at that - $4,500 and you just know its not going to be as good as a stock JZA




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From: bounce-54893-72@list.supras.org.nz [mailto:bounce-54893-72@list.supras.org.nz] On Behalf Of Looonie
Sent: Tuesday, 9 May 2006 12:05 p.m.
To: Supra Club of NZ Mailing List
Subject: Re: [sconz] damn cheap jza70



How on earth do you figure it will cost more than $4000 to put a $1500 1JZ-GTE with auto box, loom and ECU into an 86 MA70?


Regards



Dave Thom
Technical Manager
Harvey Norman New Plymouth
027 344 3938

----- Original Message -----

From: john shannon

To: Supra Club of NZ Mailing List

Sent: Tuesday, May 09, 2006 12:01 PM

Subject: Re: [sconz] damn cheap jza70



It still cost you more than $4000 to do thats, and it still will not be a jza70, i paid $11,500 for mine and i think its worth every cent to me, you try to find a 280hp stock car for less than $4000.


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Reply-To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List" <sconz@list.supras.org.nz>
To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List" <sconz@list.supras.org.nz>
Subject: Re: [sconz] damn cheap jza70
Date: Tue, 9 May 2006 11:13:19 +1200
>I guess I should start buying $500 86 supras and banging in $1500
>automatic 1JZ-GTE's and selling them for $4,000 as everyone
>obviously thinks they're worth that :)
>
>I'm not detracting from the car at all, I think its a bloody nice
>car, and its a fair price for the vehicle. I'm disputing however
>that its "cheap". MKIII's are just overpriced which is why this
>looks "cheap".
>
>Regards
>
>Dave Thom
>Technical Manager
>Harvey Norman New Plymouth
>027 344 3938
>----- Original Message ----- From: "Darcy Cresswell"
><dlc702@hotmail.com>
>To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List" <sconz@list.supras.org.nz>
>Sent: Tuesday, May 09, 2006 11:06 AM
>Subject: Re: [sconz] damn cheap jza70
>
>
>>Id happily pay $4000 for any (driveable) car with a good running
>>1jz-gte!!
>>
>>----Original Message Follows----
>>From: "Looonie" <supras@boost.org.nz>
>>Reply-To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List"
>><sconz@list.supras.org.nz>
>>To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List" <sconz@list.supras.org.nz>
>>Subject: Re: [sconz] damn cheap jza70
>>Date: Tue, 9 May 2006 10:38:40 +1200
>>
>>So you'd happily pay $4,500 for any 14 year old car so long as its
>>in tidy condition?
>>
>>Regards
>>
>>Dave Thom
>>Technical Manager
>>Harvey Norman New Plymouth
>>027 344 3938
>>----- Original Message ----- From: "Hunt M" <5uprah@supras.co.nz>
>>To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List" <sconz@list.supras.org.nz>
>>Sent: Tuesday, May 09, 2006 10:29 AM
>>Subject: RE: [sconz] damn cheap jza70
>>
>>
>>>Not really - it seems like a pretty nice example.
>>>
>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>From: bounce-54882-72@list.supras.org.nz
>>>[mailto:bounce-54882-72@list.supras.org.nz] On Behalf Of Looonie
>>>Sent: Tuesday, 9 May 2006 9:05 a.m.
>>>To: Supra Club of NZ Mailing List
>>>Subject: Re: [sconz] damn cheap jza70
>>>
>>>Sorry, too early in the morning for my brain to activate (not that
>>>it ever
>>>does)...
>>>
>>>14 year old car :)
>>>
>>>Regards
>>>
>>>Dave Thom
>>>Technical Manager
>>>Harvey Norman New Plymouth
>>>027 344 3938
>>>----- Original Message ----- From: "Peter Nield (DSL AK)"
>>><PeterN@datacom.co.nz>
>>>To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List" <sconz@list.supras.org.nz>
>>>Sent: Tuesday, May 09, 2006 8:55 AM
>>>Subject: RE: [sconz] damn cheap jza70
>>>
>>>
>>>24 years old? A typo perhaps?
>>>
>>>________________________________
>>>
>>>From: bounce-54880-33@list.supras.org.nz on behalf of Looonie
>>>Sent: Tue 9/05/2006 08:41
>>>To: Supra Club of NZ Mailing List
>>>Subject: Re: [sconz] damn cheap jza70
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>Not really, thats expensive for a automatic 24 year old car.
>>>
>>>Regards
>>>
>>>Dave Thom
>>>Technical Manager
>>>027 344 3938
>>>----- Original Message -----
>>>From: "Matthew Adair" <prisoner45@hotmail.com>
>>>To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List" <sconz@list.supras.org.nz>
>>>Sent: Monday, May 08, 2006 6:31 PM
>>>Subject: [sconz] damn cheap jza70
>>>
>>>
>>>>http://www.trademe.co.nz/Trade-Me-Motors/Cars/Toyota/auction-56086692.htm
>>>>
>>>>damn thats cheap
>>>>---
>>>>Supra Club of New Zealand - http://www.supras.org.nz/
>>>>Website sponsored by Alltech Diesel & Turbocharger
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>>>>
>>>
>>>
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Re: damn cheap jza70   2006-05-09 12:58:00 <Looonie>
They are obviously as there are significant upgrades on the Turbo A and there are only 500 made so that makes them a limited edition model.

I'm not saying an MA70 is worth the same $$ as a JZA70. Unless it has a 1JZ engine and box in it.

Regards

Dave Thom
Technical Manager
Harvey Norman New Plymouth
027 344 3938
----- Original Message -----
From: john shannon
To: Supra Club of NZ Mailing List
Sent: Tuesday, May 09, 2006 12:53 PM
Subject: Re: [sconz] damn cheap jza70


Same as a ma70 turbo A, are thay worth the same as a stock ma70




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From: "Looonie" <supras@boost.org.nz>
Reply-To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List" <sconz@list.supras.org.nz>
To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List" <sconz@list.supras.org.nz>
Subject: Re: [sconz] damn cheap jza70
Date: Tue, 9 May 2006 12:43:09 +1200


*shrug* I guess I'll find that out for sure in the next couple of weeks. So far as I am aware there is no difference between an 89.5+ MA70 cross-member and a JZA70 cross-member.

What differences are there between a JZA70 and an MA70? Other than the engine and gearbox? Please list them.

Regards

Dave Thom
Technical Manager
Harvey Norman New Plymouth
027 344 3938
----- Original Message -----
From: john shannon
To: Supra Club of NZ Mailing List
Sent: Tuesday, May 09, 2006 12:37 PM
Subject: Re: [sconz] damn cheap jza70


lol now your taking the piss, you say just put a 1jz into a ma70 shell and thay are the same as a jza70 it will never be the same.




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From: "Looonie" <supras@boost.org.nz>
Reply-To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List" <sconz@list.supras.org.nz>
To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List" <sconz@list.supras.org.nz>
Subject: Re: [sconz] damn cheap jza70
Date: Tue, 9 May 2006 12:29:41 +1200


Hunt, why do you need a x-member? And since when do they cost $500? Mine just sold for about $11 on trademe.

As for the labour, I never account for that as its my own personal time and a labour of love. Obviously if you were paying somebody to do this conversion for you it would probably gear closer to $10,000.

As for it not being as good as a stock JZA70, I'd dispute that as there would be no difference (dependant on the intercooler you used obviously).

Regards

Dave Thom
Technical Manager
Harvey Norman New Plymouth
027 344 3938
----- Original Message -----
From: Hunt M
To: Supra Club of NZ Mailing List
Sent: Tuesday, May 09, 2006 12:23 PM
Subject: RE: [sconz] damn cheap jza70


Lets see
$1500 for 1JZ with auto box

$500 for x-member

$1500 for MA70 shell.

20 hours labour at $50 per hour = $1000



Oh look at that - $4,500 and you just know its not going to be as good as a stock JZA




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From: bounce-54893-72@list.supras.org.nz [mailto:bounce-54893-72@list.supras.org.nz] On Behalf Of Looonie
Sent: Tuesday, 9 May 2006 12:05 p.m.
To: Supra Club of NZ Mailing List
Subject: Re: [sconz] damn cheap jza70



How on earth do you figure it will cost more than $4000 to put a $1500 1JZ-GTE with auto box, loom and ECU into an 86 MA70?


Regards



Dave Thom
Technical Manager
Harvey Norman New Plymouth
027 344 3938

----- Original Message -----

From: john shannon

To: Supra Club of NZ Mailing List

Sent: Tuesday, May 09, 2006 12:01 PM

Subject: Re: [sconz] damn cheap jza70



It still cost you more than $4000 to do thats, and it still will not be a jza70, i paid $11,500 for mine and i think its worth every cent to me, you try to find a 280hp stock car for less than $4000.


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Reply-To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List" <sconz@list.supras.org.nz>
To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List" <sconz@list.supras.org.nz>
Subject: Re: [sconz] damn cheap jza70
Date: Tue, 9 May 2006 11:13:19 +1200
>I guess I should start buying $500 86 supras and banging in $1500
>automatic 1JZ-GTE's and selling them for $4,000 as everyone
>obviously thinks they're worth that :)
>
>I'm not detracting from the car at all, I think its a bloody nice
>car, and its a fair price for the vehicle. I'm disputing however
>that its "cheap". MKIII's are just overpriced which is why this
>looks "cheap".
>
>Regards
>
>Dave Thom
>Technical Manager
>Harvey Norman New Plymouth
>027 344 3938
>----- Original Message ----- From: "Darcy Cresswell"
><dlc702@hotmail.com>
>To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List" <sconz@list.supras.org.nz>
>Sent: Tuesday, May 09, 2006 11:06 AM
>Subject: Re: [sconz] damn cheap jza70
>
>
>>Id happily pay $4000 for any (driveable) car with a good running
>>1jz-gte!!
>>
>>----Original Message Follows----
>>From: "Looonie" <supras@boost.org.nz>
>>Reply-To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List"
>><sconz@list.supras.org.nz>
>>To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List" <sconz@list.supras.org.nz>
>>Subject: Re: [sconz] damn cheap jza70
>>Date: Tue, 9 May 2006 10:38:40 +1200
>>
>>So you'd happily pay $4,500 for any 14 year old car so long as its
>>in tidy condition?
>>
>>Regards
>>
>>Dave Thom
>>Technical Manager
>>Harvey Norman New Plymouth
>>027 344 3938
>>----- Original Message ----- From: "Hunt M" <5uprah@supras.co.nz>
>>To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List" <sconz@list.supras.org.nz>
>>Sent: Tuesday, May 09, 2006 10:29 AM
>>Subject: RE: [sconz] damn cheap jza70
>>
>>
>>>Not really - it seems like a pretty nice example.
>>>
>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>From: bounce-54882-72@list.supras.org.nz
>>>[mailto:bounce-54882-72@list.supras.org.nz] On Behalf Of Looonie
>>>Sent: Tuesday, 9 May 2006 9:05 a.m.
>>>To: Supra Club of NZ Mailing List
>>>Subject: Re: [sconz] damn cheap jza70
>>>
>>>Sorry, too early in the morning for my brain to activate (not that
>>>it ever
>>>does)...
>>>
>>>14 year old car :)
>>>
>>>Regards
>>>
>>>Dave Thom
>>>Technical Manager
>>>Harvey Norman New Plymouth
>>>027 344 3938
>>>----- Original Message ----- From: "Peter Nield (DSL AK)"
>>><PeterN@datacom.co.nz>
>>>To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List" <sconz@list.supras.org.nz>
>>>Sent: Tuesday, May 09, 2006 8:55 AM
>>>Subject: RE: [sconz] damn cheap jza70
>>>
>>>
>>>24 years old? A typo perhaps?
>>>
>>>________________________________
>>>
>>>From: bounce-54880-33@list.supras.org.nz on behalf of Looonie
>>>Sent: Tue 9/05/2006 08:41
>>>To: Supra Club of NZ Mailing List
>>>Subject: Re: [sconz] damn cheap jza70
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>Not really, thats expensive for a automatic 24 year old car.
>>>
>>>Regards
>>>
>>>Dave Thom
>>>Technical Manager
>>>027 344 3938
>>>----- Original Message -----
>>>From: "Matthew Adair" <prisoner45@hotmail.com>
>>>To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List" <sconz@list.supras.org.nz>
>>>Sent: Monday, May 08, 2006 6:31 PM
>>>Subject: [sconz] damn cheap jza70
>>>
>>>
>>>>http://www.trademe.co.nz/Trade-Me-Motors/Cars/Toyota/auction-56086692.htm
>>>>
>>>>damn thats cheap
>>>>---
>>>>Supra Club of New Zealand - http://www.supras.org.nz/
>>>>Website sponsored by Alltech Diesel & Turbocharger
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>>>>
>>>
>>>
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Re: damn cheap jza70   2006-05-09 13:06:00 <john shannon>

So your still saying the ma70 with the jz engine and box is worth the same as a jza70


From: "Looonie" <supras@boost.org.nz>
Reply-To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List" <sconz@list.supras.org.nz>
To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List" <sconz@list.supras.org.nz>
Subject: Re: [sconz] damn cheap jza70
Date: Tue, 9 May 2006 12:57:39 +1200

They are obviously as there are significant upgrades on the Turbo A and there are only 500 made so that makes them a limited edition model.
 
I'm not saying an MA70 is worth the same $$ as a JZA70. Unless it has a 1JZ engine and box in it.

Regards
 
Dave Thom
Technical Manager
Harvey Norman New Plymouth
027 344 3938
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, May 09, 2006 12:53 PM
Subject: Re: [sconz] damn cheap jza70

Same as a ma70 turbo A, are thay worth the same as a stock ma70


From: "Looonie" <supras@boost.org.nz>
Reply-To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List" <sconz@list.supras.org.nz>
To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List" <sconz@list.supras.org.nz>
Subject: Re: [sconz] damn cheap jza70
Date: Tue, 9 May 2006 12:43:09 +1200

*shrug* I guess I'll find that out for sure in the next couple of weeks. So far as I am aware there is no difference between an 89.5+ MA70 cross-member and a JZA70 cross-member.
 
What differences are there between a JZA70 and an MA70?  Other than the engine and gearbox? Please list them.

Regards
 
Dave Thom
Technical Manager
Harvey Norman New Plymouth
027 344 3938
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, May 09, 2006 12:37 PM
Subject: Re: [sconz] damn cheap jza70

lol now your taking the piss, you say just put a 1jz into a ma70 shell and thay are the same as a jza70 it will never be the same.


From: "Looonie" <supras@boost.org.nz>
Reply-To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List" <sconz@list.supras.org.nz>
To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List" <sconz@list.supras.org.nz>
Subject: Re: [sconz] damn cheap jza70
Date: Tue, 9 May 2006 12:29:41 +1200

Hunt, why do you need a x-member? And since when do they cost $500? Mine just sold for about $11 on trademe.
 
As for the labour, I never account for that as its my own personal time and a labour of love. Obviously if you were paying somebody to do this conversion for you it would probably gear closer to $10,000.
 
As for it not being as good as a stock JZA70, I'd dispute that as there would be no difference (dependant on the intercooler you used obviously).

Regards
 
Dave Thom
Technical Manager
Harvey Norman New Plymouth
027 344 3938
----- Original Message -----
From: Hunt M
Sent: Tuesday, May 09, 2006 12:23 PM
Subject: RE: [sconz] damn cheap jza70

Lets see
$1500 for 1JZ with auto box

$500 for x-member

$1500 for MA70 shell.

20 hours labour at $50 per hour = $1000

 

Oh look at that – $4,500 and you just know its not going to be as good as a stock JZA

 


From: bounce-54893-72@list.supras.org.nz [mailto:bounce-54893-72@list.supras.org.nz] On Behalf Of Looonie
Sent: Tuesday, 9 May 2006 12:05 p.m.
To: Supra Club of NZ Mailing List
Subject: Re: [sconz] damn cheap jza70

 

How on earth do you figure it will cost more than $4000 to put a $1500 1JZ-GTE with auto box, loom and ECU into an 86 MA70?


Regards

 

Dave Thom
Technical Manager
Harvey Norman New Plymouth
027 344 3938

----- Original Message -----

From: john shannon

Sent: Tuesday, May 09, 2006 12:01 PM

Subject: Re: [sconz] damn cheap jza70

 

It still cost you more than $4000 to do thats, and it still will not be a jza70, i paid $11,500 for mine and i think its worth every cent to me, you try to find a 280hp stock car for less than $4000.


From:  "Looonie" <supras@boost.org.nz>
Reply-To:  "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List" <sconz@list.supras.org.nz>
To:  "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List" <sconz@list.supras.org.nz>
Subject:  Re: [sconz] damn cheap jza70
Date:  Tue, 9 May 2006 11:13:19 +1200
>I guess I should start buying $500 86 supras and banging in $1500
>automatic 1JZ-GTE's and selling them for $4,000 as everyone
>obviously thinks they're worth that :)
>
>I'm not detracting from the car at all, I think its a bloody nice
>car, and its a fair price for the vehicle. I'm disputing however
>that its "cheap". MKIII's are just overpriced which is why this
>looks "cheap".
>
>Regards
>
>Dave Thom
>Technical Manager
>Harvey Norman New Plymouth
>027 344 3938
>----- Original Message ----- From: "Darcy Cresswell"
><dlc702@hotmail.com>
>To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List" <sconz@list.supras.org.nz>
>Sent: Tuesday, May 09, 2006 11:06 AM
>Subject: Re: [sconz] damn cheap jza70
>
>
>>Id happily pay $4000 for any (driveable) car with a good running
>>1jz-gte!!
>>
>>----Original Message Follows----
>>From: "Looonie" <supras@boost.org.nz>
>>Reply-To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List"
>><sconz@list.supras.org.nz>
>>To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List" <sconz@list.supras.org.nz>
>>Subject: Re: [sconz] damn cheap jza70
>>Date: Tue, 9 May 2006 10:38:40 +1200
>>
>>So you'd happily pay $4,500 for any 14 year old car so long as its
>>in tidy condition?
>>
>>Regards
>>
>>Dave Thom
>>Technical Manager
>>Harvey Norman New Plymouth
>>027 344 3938
>>----- Original Message ----- From: "Hunt M" <5uprah@supras.co.nz>
>>To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List" <sconz@list.supras.org.nz>
>>Sent: Tuesday, May 09, 2006 10:29 AM
>>Subject: RE: [sconz] damn cheap jza70
>>
>>
>>>Not really - it seems like a pretty nice example.
>>>
>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>From: bounce-54882-72@list.supras.org.nz
>>>[mailto:bounce-54882-72@list.supras.org.nz] On Behalf Of Looonie
>>>Sent: Tuesday, 9 May 2006 9:05 a.m.
>>>To: Supra Club of NZ Mailing List
>>>Subject: Re: [sconz] damn cheap jza70
>>>
>>>Sorry, too early in the morning for my brain to activate (not that
>>>it ever
>>>does)...
>>>
>>>14 year old car :)
>>>
>>>Regards
>>>
>>>Dave Thom
>>>Technical Manager
>>>Harvey Norman New Plymouth
>>>027 344 3938
>>>----- Original Message ----- From: "Peter Nield (DSL AK)"
>>><PeterN@datacom.co.nz>
>>>To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List" <sconz@list.supras.org.nz>
>>>Sent: Tuesday, May 09, 2006 8:55 AM
>>>Subject: RE: [sconz] damn cheap jza70
>>>
>>>
>>>24 years old?  A typo perhaps?
>>>
>>>________________________________
>>>
>>>From: bounce-54880-33@list.supras.org.nz on behalf of Looonie
>>>Sent: Tue 9/05/2006 08:41
>>>To: Supra Club of NZ Mailing List
>>>Subject: Re: [sconz] damn cheap jza70
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>Not really, thats expensive for a automatic 24 year old car.
>>>
>>>Regards
>>>
>>>Dave Thom
>>>Technical Manager
>>>027 344 3938
>>>----- Original Message -----
>>>From: "Matthew Adair" <prisoner45@hotmail.com>
>>>To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List" <sconz@list.supras.org.nz>
>>>Sent: Monday, May 08, 2006 6:31 PM
>>>Subject: [sconz] damn cheap jza70
>>>
>>>
>>>>http://www.trademe.co.nz/Trade-Me-Motors/Cars/Toyota/auction-56086692.htm
>>>>
>>>>damn thats cheap
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Re: damn cheap jza70   2006-05-09 13:10:00 <Looonie>
That is what I'm saying yes, I don't see any reason why it wouldn't be seeing as the engine and box are the only significant differences between a 90+ MA70 and a JZA70. (Bearing in mind that Torsen diffs and recaro seats are options so therefore not applicable to a comparison)

Again if somebody wishes to correct me with facts then please do, I'm never against being corrected if I'm wrong, but so far nobody has done so.

Regards

Dave Thom
Technical Manager
Harvey Norman New Plymouth
027 344 3938
----- Original Message -----
From: john shannon
To: Supra Club of NZ Mailing List
Sent: Tuesday, May 09, 2006 1:05 PM
Subject: Re: [sconz] damn cheap jza70


So your still saying the ma70 with the jz engine and box is worth the same as a jza70




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From: "Looonie" <supras@boost.org.nz>
Reply-To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List" <sconz@list.supras.org.nz>
To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List" <sconz@list.supras.org.nz>
Subject: Re: [sconz] damn cheap jza70
Date: Tue, 9 May 2006 12:57:39 +1200


They are obviously as there are significant upgrades on the Turbo A and there are only 500 made so that makes them a limited edition model.

I'm not saying an MA70 is worth the same $$ as a JZA70. Unless it has a 1JZ engine and box in it.

Regards

Dave Thom
Technical Manager
Harvey Norman New Plymouth
027 344 3938
----- Original Message -----
From: john shannon
To: Supra Club of NZ Mailing List
Sent: Tuesday, May 09, 2006 12:53 PM
Subject: Re: [sconz] damn cheap jza70


Same as a ma70 turbo A, are thay worth the same as a stock ma70




------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: "Looonie" <supras@boost.org.nz>
Reply-To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List" <sconz@list.supras.org.nz>
To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List" <sconz@list.supras.org.nz>
Subject: Re: [sconz] damn cheap jza70
Date: Tue, 9 May 2006 12:43:09 +1200


*shrug* I guess I'll find that out for sure in the next couple of weeks. So far as I am aware there is no difference between an 89.5+ MA70 cross-member and a JZA70 cross-member.

What differences are there between a JZA70 and an MA70? Other than the engine and gearbox? Please list them.

Regards

Dave Thom
Technical Manager
Harvey Norman New Plymouth
027 344 3938
----- Original Message -----
From: john shannon
To: Supra Club of NZ Mailing List
Sent: Tuesday, May 09, 2006 12:37 PM
Subject: Re: [sconz] damn cheap jza70


lol now your taking the piss, you say just put a 1jz into a ma70 shell and thay are the same as a jza70 it will never be the same.




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From: "Looonie" <supras@boost.org.nz>
Reply-To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List" <sconz@list.supras.org.nz>
To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List" <sconz@list.supras.org.nz>
Subject: Re: [sconz] damn cheap jza70
Date: Tue, 9 May 2006 12:29:41 +1200


Hunt, why do you need a x-member? And since when do they cost $500? Mine just sold for about $11 on trademe.

As for the labour, I never account for that as its my own personal time and a labour of love. Obviously if you were paying somebody to do this conversion for you it would probably gear closer to $10,000.

As for it not being as good as a stock JZA70, I'd dispute that as there would be no difference (dependant on the intercooler you used obviously).

Regards

Dave Thom
Technical Manager
Harvey Norman New Plymouth
027 344 3938
----- Original Message -----
From: Hunt M
To: Supra Club of NZ Mailing List
Sent: Tuesday, May 09, 2006 12:23 PM
Subject: RE: [sconz] damn cheap jza70


Lets see
$1500 for 1JZ with auto box

$500 for x-member

$1500 for MA70 shell.

20 hours labour at $50 per hour = $1000



Oh look at that - $4,500 and you just know its not going to be as good as a stock JZA




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From: bounce-54893-72@list.supras.org.nz [mailto:bounce-54893-72@list.supras.org.nz] On Behalf Of Looonie
Sent: Tuesday, 9 May 2006 12:05 p.m.
To: Supra Club of NZ Mailing List
Subject: Re: [sconz] damn cheap jza70



How on earth do you figure it will cost more than $4000 to put a $1500 1JZ-GTE with auto box, loom and ECU into an 86 MA70?


Regards



Dave Thom
Technical Manager
Harvey Norman New Plymouth
027 344 3938

----- Original Message -----

From: john shannon

To: Supra Club of NZ Mailing List

Sent: Tuesday, May 09, 2006 12:01 PM

Subject: Re: [sconz] damn cheap jza70



It still cost you more than $4000 to do thats, and it still will not be a jza70, i paid $11,500 for mine and i think its worth every cent to me, you try to find a 280hp stock car for less than $4000.


--------------------------------------------------------------

From: "Looonie" <supras@boost.org.nz>
Reply-To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List" <sconz@list.supras.org.nz>
To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List" <sconz@list.supras.org.nz>
Subject: Re: [sconz] damn cheap jza70
Date: Tue, 9 May 2006 11:13:19 +1200
>I guess I should start buying $500 86 supras and banging in $1500
>automatic 1JZ-GTE's and selling them for $4,000 as everyone
>obviously thinks they're worth that :)
>
>I'm not detracting from the car at all, I think its a bloody nice
>car, and its a fair price for the vehicle. I'm disputing however
>that its "cheap". MKIII's are just overpriced which is why this
>looks "cheap".
>
>Regards
>
>Dave Thom
>Technical Manager
>Harvey Norman New Plymouth
>027 344 3938
>----- Original Message ----- From: "Darcy Cresswell"
><dlc702@hotmail.com>
>To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List" <sconz@list.supras.org.nz>
>Sent: Tuesday, May 09, 2006 11:06 AM
>Subject: Re: [sconz] damn cheap jza70
>
>
>>Id happily pay $4000 for any (driveable) car with a good running
>>1jz-gte!!
>>
>>----Original Message Follows----
>>From: "Looonie" <supras@boost.org.nz>
>>Reply-To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List"
>><sconz@list.supras.org.nz>
>>To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List" <sconz@list.supras.org.nz>
>>Subject: Re: [sconz] damn cheap jza70
>>Date: Tue, 9 May 2006 10:38:40 +1200
>>
>>So you'd happily pay $4,500 for any 14 year old car so long as its
>>in tidy condition?
>>
>>Regards
>>
>>Dave Thom
>>Technical Manager
>>Harvey Norman New Plymouth
>>027 344 3938
>>----- Original Message ----- From: "Hunt M" <5uprah@supras.co.nz>
>>To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List" <sconz@list.supras.org.nz>
>>Sent: Tuesday, May 09, 2006 10:29 AM
>>Subject: RE: [sconz] damn cheap jza70
>>
>>
>>>Not really - it seems like a pretty nice example.
>>>
>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>From: bounce-54882-72@list.supras.org.nz
>>>[mailto:bounce-54882-72@list.supras.org.nz] On Behalf Of Looonie
>>>Sent: Tuesday, 9 May 2006 9:05 a.m.
>>>To: Supra Club of NZ Mailing List
>>>Subject: Re: [sconz] damn cheap jza70
>>>
>>>Sorry, too early in the morning for my brain to activate (not that
>>>it ever
>>>does)...
>>>
>>>14 year old car :)
>>>
>>>Regards
>>>
>>>Dave Thom
>>>Technical Manager
>>>Harvey Norman New Plymouth
>>>027 344 3938
>>>----- Original Message ----- From: "Peter Nield (DSL AK)"
>>><PeterN@datacom.co.nz>
>>>To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List" <sconz@list.supras.org.nz>
>>>Sent: Tuesday, May 09, 2006 8:55 AM
>>>Subject: RE: [sconz] damn cheap jza70
>>>
>>>
>>>24 years old? A typo perhaps?
>>>
>>>________________________________
>>>
>>>From: bounce-54880-33@list.supras.org.nz on behalf of Looonie
>>>Sent: Tue 9/05/2006 08:41
>>>To: Supra Club of NZ Mailing List
>>>Subject: Re: [sconz] damn cheap jza70
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>Not really, thats expensive for a automatic 24 year old car.
>>>
>>>Regards
>>>
>>>Dave Thom
>>>Technical Manager
>>>027 344 3938
>>>----- Original Message -----
>>>From: "Matthew Adair" <prisoner45@hotmail.com>
>>>To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List" <sconz@list.supras.org.nz>
>>>Sent: Monday, May 08, 2006 6:31 PM
>>>Subject: [sconz] damn cheap jza70
>>>
>>>
>>>>http://www.trademe.co.nz/Trade-Me-Motors/Cars/Toyota/auction-56086692.htm
>>>>
>>>>damn thats cheap
>>>>---
>>>>Supra Club of New Zealand - http://www.supras.org.nz/
>>>>Website sponsored by Alltech Diesel & Turbocharger
>>>>http://www.turbo.co.nz
>>>>
>>>
>>>
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>>>
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Re: damn cheap jza70   2006-05-09 13:10:00 <john shannon>

so that be the same as spending $20,000+ on a gts4 with a rb26 in it i would want the real thing for that price would you.


From: "Looonie" <supras@boost.org.nz>
Reply-To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List" <sconz@list.supras.org.nz>
To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List" <sconz@list.supras.org.nz>
Subject: Re: [sconz] damn cheap jza70
Date: Tue, 9 May 2006 12:56:35 +1200

Don't see any reason why not, I'm not the kind of person who's fixated on over paying for a couple of letters stamped different on the firewall.

Regards
 
Dave Thom
Technical Manager
Harvey Norman New Plymouth
027 344 3938
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, May 09, 2006 12:50 PM
Subject: Re: [sconz] damn cheap jza70

all i can say on that one is, if you were looking to buy a jza70 would you pay the same for a ma70 with a 1jz in it.


From: "Looonie" <supras@boost.org.nz>
Reply-To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List" <sconz@list.supras.org.nz>
To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List" <sconz@list.supras.org.nz>
Subject: Re: [sconz] damn cheap jza70
Date: Tue, 9 May 2006 12:43:09 +1200

*shrug* I guess I'll find that out for sure in the next couple of weeks. So far as I am aware there is no difference between an 89.5+ MA70 cross-member and a JZA70 cross-member.
 
What differences are there between a JZA70 and an MA70?  Other than the engine and gearbox? Please list them.

Regards
 
Dave Thom
Technical Manager
Harvey Norman New Plymouth
027 344 3938
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, May 09, 2006 12:37 PM
Subject: Re: [sconz] damn cheap jza70

lol now your taking the piss, you say just put a 1jz into a ma70 shell and thay are the same as a jza70 it will never be the same.


From: "Looonie" <supras@boost.org.nz>
Reply-To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List" <sconz@list.supras.org.nz>
To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List" <sconz@list.supras.org.nz>
Subject: Re: [sconz] damn cheap jza70
Date: Tue, 9 May 2006 12:29:41 +1200

Hunt, why do you need a x-member? And since when do they cost $500? Mine just sold for about $11 on trademe.
 
As for the labour, I never account for that as its my own personal time and a labour of love. Obviously if you were paying somebody to do this conversion for you it would probably gear closer to $10,000.
 
As for it not being as good as a stock JZA70, I'd dispute that as there would be no difference (dependant on the intercooler you used obviously).

Regards
 
Dave Thom
Technical Manager
Harvey Norman New Plymouth
027 344 3938
----- Original Message -----
From: Hunt M
Sent: Tuesday, May 09, 2006 12:23 PM
Subject: RE: [sconz] damn cheap jza70

Lets see
$1500 for 1JZ with auto box

$500 for x-member

$1500 for MA70 shell.

20 hours labour at $50 per hour = $1000

 

Oh look at that – $4,500 and you just know its not going to be as good as a stock JZA

 


From: bounce-54893-72@list.supras.org.nz [mailto:bounce-54893-72@list.supras.org.nz] On Behalf Of Looonie
Sent: Tuesday, 9 May 2006 12:05 p.m.
To: Supra Club of NZ Mailing List
Subject: Re: [sconz] damn cheap jza70

 

How on earth do you figure it will cost more than $4000 to put a $1500 1JZ-GTE with auto box, loom and ECU into an 86 MA70?


Regards

 

Dave Thom
Technical Manager
Harvey Norman New Plymouth
027 344 3938

----- Original Message -----

From: john shannon

Sent: Tuesday, May 09, 2006 12:01 PM

Subject: Re: [sconz] damn cheap jza70

 

It still cost you more than $4000 to do thats, and it still will not be a jza70, i paid $11,500 for mine and i think its worth every cent to me, you try to find a 280hp stock car for less than $4000.


From:  "Looonie" <supras@boost.org.nz>
Reply-To:  "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List" <sconz@list.supras.org.nz>
To:  "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List" <sconz@list.supras.org.nz>
Subject:  Re: [sconz] damn cheap jza70
Date:  Tue, 9 May 2006 11:13:19 +1200
>I guess I should start buying $500 86 supras and banging in $1500
>automatic 1JZ-GTE's and selling them for $4,000 as everyone
>obviously thinks they're worth that :)
>
>I'm not detracting from the car at all, I think its a bloody nice
>car, and its a fair price for the vehicle. I'm disputing however
>that its "cheap". MKIII's are just overpriced which is why this
>looks "cheap".
>
>Regards
>
>Dave Thom
>Technical Manager
>Harvey Norman New Plymouth
>027 344 3938
>----- Original Message ----- From: "Darcy Cresswell"
><dlc702@hotmail.com>
>To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List" <sconz@list.supras.org.nz>
>Sent: Tuesday, May 09, 2006 11:06 AM
>Subject: Re: [sconz] damn cheap jza70
>
>
>>Id happily pay $4000 for any (driveable) car with a good running
>>1jz-gte!!
>>
>>----Original Message Follows----
>>From: "Looonie" <supras@boost.org.nz>
>>Reply-To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List"
>><sconz@list.supras.org.nz>
>>To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List" <sconz@list.supras.org.nz>
>>Subject: Re: [sconz] damn cheap jza70
>>Date: Tue, 9 May 2006 10:38:40 +1200
>>
>>So you'd happily pay $4,500 for any 14 year old car so long as its
>>in tidy condition?
>>
>>Regards
>>
>>Dave Thom
>>Technical Manager
>>Harvey Norman New Plymouth
>>027 344 3938
>>----- Original Message ----- From: "Hunt M" <5uprah@supras.co.nz>
>>To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List" <sconz@list.supras.org.nz>
>>Sent: Tuesday, May 09, 2006 10:29 AM
>>Subject: RE: [sconz] damn cheap jza70
>>
>>
>>>Not really - it seems like a pretty nice example.
>>>
>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>From: bounce-54882-72@list.supras.org.nz
>>>[mailto:bounce-54882-72@list.supras.org.nz] On Behalf Of Looonie
>>>Sent: Tuesday, 9 May 2006 9:05 a.m.
>>>To: Supra Club of NZ Mailing List
>>>Subject: Re: [sconz] damn cheap jza70
>>>
>>>Sorry, too early in the morning for my brain to activate (not that
>>>it ever
>>>does)...
>>>
>>>14 year old car :)
>>>
>>>Regards
>>>
>>>Dave Thom
>>>Technical Manager
>>>Harvey Norman New Plymouth
>>>027 344 3938
>>>----- Original Message ----- From: "Peter Nield (DSL AK)"
>>><PeterN@datacom.co.nz>
>>>To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List" <sconz@list.supras.org.nz>
>>>Sent: Tuesday, May 09, 2006 8:55 AM
>>>Subject: RE: [sconz] damn cheap jza70
>>>
>>>
>>>24 years old?  A typo perhaps?
>>>
>>>________________________________
>>>
>>>From: bounce-54880-33@list.supras.org.nz on behalf of Looonie
>>>Sent: Tue 9/05/2006 08:41
>>>To: Supra Club of NZ Mailing List
>>>Subject: Re: [sconz] damn cheap jza70
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>Not really, thats expensive for a automatic 24 year old car.
>>>
>>>Regards
>>>
>>>Dave Thom
>>>Technical Manager
>>>027 344 3938
>>>----- Original Message -----
>>>From: "Matthew Adair" <prisoner45@hotmail.com>
>>>To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List" <sconz@list.supras.org.nz>
>>>Sent: Monday, May 08, 2006 6:31 PM
>>>Subject: [sconz] damn cheap jza70
>>>
>>>
>>>>http://www.trademe.co.nz/Trade-Me-Motors/Cars/Toyota/auction-56086692.htm
>>>>
>>>>damn thats cheap
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Re: damn cheap jza70   2006-05-09 13:15:00 <Looonie>
Not really the same at all John considering that a GTR has wider body guards, different seats, transmission, rear differential, gearbox...

Again the only differences that I'm aware of between an MA70 and a JZA70 of the same vintage is the engine and gearbox (and intercooler, power steering lines, loom, ecu, torque converter... )

So you're still not making a valid point with facts.

Also I doubt anyone could get $20,000+ for a GTS4 with an RB26 (assuming we're talking R32 chassis here) considering the genuine item is only just hitting that price for nice examples.

Regards

Dave Thom
Technical Manager
Harvey Norman New Plymouth
027 344 3938
----- Original Message -----
From: john shannon
To: Supra Club of NZ Mailing List
Sent: Tuesday, May 09, 2006 1:09 PM
Subject: Re: [sconz] damn cheap jza70


so that be the same as spending $20,000+ on a gts4 with a rb26 in it i would want the real thing for that price would you.




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From: "Looonie" <supras@boost.org.nz>
Reply-To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List" <sconz@list.supras.org.nz>
To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List" <sconz@list.supras.org.nz>
Subject: Re: [sconz] damn cheap jza70
Date: Tue, 9 May 2006 12:56:35 +1200


Don't see any reason why not, I'm not the kind of person who's fixated on over paying for a couple of letters stamped different on the firewall.

Regards

Dave Thom
Technical Manager
Harvey Norman New Plymouth
027 344 3938
----- Original Message -----
From: john shannon
To: Supra Club of NZ Mailing List
Sent: Tuesday, May 09, 2006 12:50 PM
Subject: Re: [sconz] damn cheap jza70


all i can say on that one is, if you were looking to buy a jza70 would you pay the same for a ma70 with a 1jz in it.




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From: "Looonie" <supras@boost.org.nz>
Reply-To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List" <sconz@list.supras.org.nz>
To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List" <sconz@list.supras.org.nz>
Subject: Re: [sconz] damn cheap jza70
Date: Tue, 9 May 2006 12:43:09 +1200


*shrug* I guess I'll find that out for sure in the next couple of weeks. So far as I am aware there is no difference between an 89.5+ MA70 cross-member and a JZA70 cross-member.

What differences are there between a JZA70 and an MA70? Other than the engine and gearbox? Please list them.

Regards

Dave Thom
Technical Manager
Harvey Norman New Plymouth
027 344 3938
----- Original Message -----
From: john shannon
To: Supra Club of NZ Mailing List
Sent: Tuesday, May 09, 2006 12:37 PM
Subject: Re: [sconz] damn cheap jza70


lol now your taking the piss, you say just put a 1jz into a ma70 shell and thay are the same as a jza70 it will never be the same.




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From: "Looonie" <supras@boost.org.nz>
Reply-To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List" <sconz@list.supras.org.nz>
To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List" <sconz@list.supras.org.nz>
Subject: Re: [sconz] damn cheap jza70
Date: Tue, 9 May 2006 12:29:41 +1200


Hunt, why do you need a x-member? And since when do they cost $500? Mine just sold for about $11 on trademe.

As for the labour, I never account for that as its my own personal time and a labour of love. Obviously if you were paying somebody to do this conversion for you it would probably gear closer to $10,000.

As for it not being as good as a stock JZA70, I'd dispute that as there would be no difference (dependant on the intercooler you used obviously).

Regards

Dave Thom
Technical Manager
Harvey Norman New Plymouth
027 344 3938
----- Original Message -----
From: Hunt M
To: Supra Club of NZ Mailing List
Sent: Tuesday, May 09, 2006 12:23 PM
Subject: RE: [sconz] damn cheap jza70


Lets see
$1500 for 1JZ with auto box

$500 for x-member

$1500 for MA70 shell.

20 hours labour at $50 per hour = $1000



Oh look at that - $4,500 and you just know its not going to be as good as a stock JZA




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From: bounce-54893-72@list.supras.org.nz [mailto:bounce-54893-72@list.supras.org.nz] On Behalf Of Looonie
Sent: Tuesday, 9 May 2006 12:05 p.m.
To: Supra Club of NZ Mailing List
Subject: Re: [sconz] damn cheap jza70



How on earth do you figure it will cost more than $4000 to put a $1500 1JZ-GTE with auto box, loom and ECU into an 86 MA70?


Regards



Dave Thom
Technical Manager
Harvey Norman New Plymouth
027 344 3938

----- Original Message -----

From: john shannon

To: Supra Club of NZ Mailing List

Sent: Tuesday, May 09, 2006 12:01 PM

Subject: Re: [sconz] damn cheap jza70



It still cost you more than $4000 to do thats, and it still will not be a jza70, i paid $11,500 for mine and i think its worth every cent to me, you try to find a 280hp stock car for less than $4000.


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From: "Looonie" <supras@boost.org.nz>
Reply-To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List" <sconz@list.supras.org.nz>
To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List" <sconz@list.supras.org.nz>
Subject: Re: [sconz] damn cheap jza70
Date: Tue, 9 May 2006 11:13:19 +1200
>I guess I should start buying $500 86 supras and banging in $1500
>automatic 1JZ-GTE's and selling them for $4,000 as everyone
>obviously thinks they're worth that :)
>
>I'm not detracting from the car at all, I think its a bloody nice
>car, and its a fair price for the vehicle. I'm disputing however
>that its "cheap". MKIII's are just overpriced which is why this
>looks "cheap".
>
>Regards
>
>Dave Thom
>Technical Manager
>Harvey Norman New Plymouth
>027 344 3938
>----- Original Message ----- From: "Darcy Cresswell"
><dlc702@hotmail.com>
>To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List" <sconz@list.supras.org.nz>
>Sent: Tuesday, May 09, 2006 11:06 AM
>Subject: Re: [sconz] damn cheap jza70
>
>
>>Id happily pay $4000 for any (driveable) car with a good running
>>1jz-gte!!
>>
>>----Original Message Follows----
>>From: "Looonie" <supras@boost.org.nz>
>>Reply-To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List"
>><sconz@list.supras.org.nz>
>>To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List" <sconz@list.supras.org.nz>
>>Subject: Re: [sconz] damn cheap jza70
>>Date: Tue, 9 May 2006 10:38:40 +1200
>>
>>So you'd happily pay $4,500 for any 14 year old car so long as its
>>in tidy condition?
>>
>>Regards
>>
>>Dave Thom
>>Technical Manager
>>Harvey Norman New Plymouth
>>027 344 3938
>>----- Original Message ----- From: "Hunt M" <5uprah@supras.co.nz>
>>To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List" <sconz@list.supras.org.nz>
>>Sent: Tuesday, May 09, 2006 10:29 AM
>>Subject: RE: [sconz] damn cheap jza70
>>
>>
>>>Not really - it seems like a pretty nice example.
>>>
>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>From: bounce-54882-72@list.supras.org.nz
>>>[mailto:bounce-54882-72@list.supras.org.nz] On Behalf Of Looonie
>>>Sent: Tuesday, 9 May 2006 9:05 a.m.
>>>To: Supra Club of NZ Mailing List
>>>Subject: Re: [sconz] damn cheap jza70
>>>
>>>Sorry, too early in the morning for my brain to activate (not that
>>>it ever
>>>does)...
>>>
>>>14 year old car :)
>>>
>>>Regards
>>>
>>>Dave Thom
>>>Technical Manager
>>>Harvey Norman New Plymouth
>>>027 344 3938
>>>----- Original Message ----- From: "Peter Nield (DSL AK)"
>>><PeterN@datacom.co.nz>
>>>To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List" <sconz@list.supras.org.nz>
>>>Sent: Tuesday, May 09, 2006 8:55 AM
>>>Subject: RE: [sconz] damn cheap jza70
>>>
>>>
>>>24 years old? A typo perhaps?
>>>
>>>________________________________
>>>
>>>From: bounce-54880-33@list.supras.org.nz on behalf of Looonie
>>>Sent: Tue 9/05/2006 08:41
>>>To: Supra Club of NZ Mailing List
>>>Subject: Re: [sconz] damn cheap jza70
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>Not really, thats expensive for a automatic 24 year old car.
>>>
>>>Regards
>>>
>>>Dave Thom
>>>Technical Manager
>>>027 344 3938
>>>----- Original Message -----
>>>From: "Matthew Adair" <prisoner45@hotmail.com>
>>>To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List" <sconz@list.supras.org.nz>
>>>Sent: Monday, May 08, 2006 6:31 PM
>>>Subject: [sconz] damn cheap jza70
>>>
>>>
>>>>http://www.trademe.co.nz/Trade-Me-Motors/Cars/Toyota/auction-56086692.htm
>>>>
>>>>damn thats cheap
>>>>---
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>>>>Website sponsored by Alltech Diesel & Turbocharger
>>>>http://www.turbo.co.nz
>>>>
>>>
>>>
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Re: damn cheap jza70   2006-05-09 13:17:00 <john shannon>

Thats another thing would you say a jza70 be worth the same as a turbo R jza70.


From: "Looonie" <supras@boost.org.nz>
Reply-To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List" <sconz@list.supras.org.nz>
To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List" <sconz@list.supras.org.nz>
Subject: Re: [sconz] damn cheap jza70
Date: Tue, 9 May 2006 13:10:12 +1200

That is what I'm saying yes, I don't see any reason why it wouldn't be seeing as the engine and box are the only significant differences between a 90+ MA70 and a JZA70. (Bearing in mind that Torsen diffs and recaro seats are options so therefore not applicable to a comparison)
 
Again if somebody wishes to correct me with facts then please do, I'm never against being corrected if I'm wrong, but so far nobody has done so.

Regards
 
Dave Thom
Technical Manager
Harvey Norman New Plymouth
027 344 3938
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, May 09, 2006 1:05 PM
Subject: Re: [sconz] damn cheap jza70

So your still saying the ma70 with the jz engine and box is worth the same as a jza70


From: "Looonie" <supras@boost.org.nz>
Reply-To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List" <sconz@list.supras.org.nz>
To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List" <sconz@list.supras.org.nz>
Subject: Re: [sconz] damn cheap jza70
Date: Tue, 9 May 2006 12:57:39 +1200

They are obviously as there are significant upgrades on the Turbo A and there are only 500 made so that makes them a limited edition model.
 
I'm not saying an MA70 is worth the same $$ as a JZA70. Unless it has a 1JZ engine and box in it.

Regards
 
Dave Thom
Technical Manager
Harvey Norman New Plymouth
027 344 3938
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, May 09, 2006 12:53 PM
Subject: Re: [sconz] damn cheap jza70

Same as a ma70 turbo A, are thay worth the same as a stock ma70


From: "Looonie" <supras@boost.org.nz>
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To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List" <sconz@list.supras.org.nz>
Subject: Re: [sconz] damn cheap jza70
Date: Tue, 9 May 2006 12:43:09 +1200

*shrug* I guess I'll find that out for sure in the next couple of weeks. So far as I am aware there is no difference between an 89.5+ MA70 cross-member and a JZA70 cross-member.
 
What differences are there between a JZA70 and an MA70?  Other than the engine and gearbox? Please list them.

Regards
 
Dave Thom
Technical Manager
Harvey Norman New Plymouth
027 344 3938
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, May 09, 2006 12:37 PM
Subject: Re: [sconz] damn cheap jza70

lol now your taking the piss, you say just put a 1jz into a ma70 shell and thay are the same as a jza70 it will never be the same.


From: "Looonie" <supras@boost.org.nz>
Reply-To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List" <sconz@list.supras.org.nz>
To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List" <sconz@list.supras.org.nz>
Subject: Re: [sconz] damn cheap jza70
Date: Tue, 9 May 2006 12:29:41 +1200

Hunt, why do you need a x-member? And since when do they cost $500? Mine just sold for about $11 on trademe.
 
As for the labour, I never account for that as its my own personal time and a labour of love. Obviously if you were paying somebody to do this conversion for you it would probably gear closer to $10,000.
 
As for it not being as good as a stock JZA70, I'd dispute that as there would be no difference (dependant on the intercooler you used obviously).

Regards
 
Dave Thom
Technical Manager
Harvey Norman New Plymouth
027 344 3938
----- Original Message -----
From: Hunt M
Sent: Tuesday, May 09, 2006 12:23 PM
Subject: RE: [sconz] damn cheap jza70

Lets see
$1500 for 1JZ with auto box

$500 for x-member

$1500 for MA70 shell.

20 hours labour at $50 per hour = $1000

 

Oh look at that – $4,500 and you just know its not going to be as good as a stock JZA

 


From: bounce-54893-72@list.supras.org.nz [mailto:bounce-54893-72@list.supras.org.nz] On Behalf Of Looonie
Sent: Tuesday, 9 May 2006 12:05 p.m.
To: Supra Club of NZ Mailing List
Subject: Re: [sconz] damn cheap jza70

 

How on earth do you figure it will cost more than $4000 to put a $1500 1JZ-GTE with auto box, loom and ECU into an 86 MA70?


Regards

 

Dave Thom
Technical Manager
Harvey Norman New Plymouth
027 344 3938

----- Original Message -----

From: john shannon

Sent: Tuesday, May 09, 2006 12:01 PM

Subject: Re: [sconz] damn cheap jza70

 

It still cost you more than $4000 to do thats, and it still will not be a jza70, i paid $11,500 for mine and i think its worth every cent to me, you try to find a 280hp stock car for less than $4000.


From:  "Looonie" <supras@boost.org.nz>
Reply-To:  "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List" <sconz@list.supras.org.nz>
To:  "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List" <sconz@list.supras.org.nz>
Subject:  Re: [sconz] damn cheap jza70
Date:  Tue, 9 May 2006 11:13:19 +1200
>I guess I should start buying $500 86 supras and banging in $1500
>automatic 1JZ-GTE's and selling them for $4,000 as everyone
>obviously thinks they're worth that :)
>
>I'm not detracting from the car at all, I think its a bloody nice
>car, and its a fair price for the vehicle. I'm disputing however
>that its "cheap". MKIII's are just overpriced which is why this
>looks "cheap".
>
>Regards
>
>Dave Thom
>Technical Manager
>Harvey Norman New Plymouth
>027 344 3938
>----- Original Message ----- From: "Darcy Cresswell"
><dlc702@hotmail.com>
>To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List" <sconz@list.supras.org.nz>
>Sent: Tuesday, May 09, 2006 11:06 AM
>Subject: Re: [sconz] damn cheap jza70
>
>
>>Id happily pay $4000 for any (driveable) car with a good running
>>1jz-gte!!
>>
>>----Original Message Follows----
>>From: "Looonie" <supras@boost.org.nz>
>>Reply-To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List"
>><sconz@list.supras.org.nz>
>>To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List" <sconz@list.supras.org.nz>
>>Subject: Re: [sconz] damn cheap jza70
>>Date: Tue, 9 May 2006 10:38:40 +1200
>>
>>So you'd happily pay $4,500 for any 14 year old car so long as its
>>in tidy condition?
>>
>>Regards
>>
>>Dave Thom
>>Technical Manager
>>Harvey Norman New Plymouth
>>027 344 3938
>>----- Original Message ----- From: "Hunt M" <5uprah@supras.co.nz>
>>To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List" <sconz@list.supras.org.nz>
>>Sent: Tuesday, May 09, 2006 10:29 AM
>>Subject: RE: [sconz] damn cheap jza70
>>
>>
>>>Not really - it seems like a pretty nice example.
>>>
>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>From: bounce-54882-72@list.supras.org.nz
>>>[mailto:bounce-54882-72@list.supras.org.nz] On Behalf Of Looonie
>>>Sent: Tuesday, 9 May 2006 9:05 a.m.
>>>To: Supra Club of NZ Mailing List
>>>Subject: Re: [sconz] damn cheap jza70
>>>
>>>Sorry, too early in the morning for my brain to activate (not that
>>>it ever
>>>does)...
>>>
>>>14 year old car :)
>>>
>>>Regards
>>>
>>>Dave Thom
>>>Technical Manager
>>>Harvey Norman New Plymouth
>>>027 344 3938
>>>----- Original Message ----- From: "Peter Nield (DSL AK)"
>>><PeterN@datacom.co.nz>
>>>To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List" <sconz@list.supras.org.nz>
>>>Sent: Tuesday, May 09, 2006 8:55 AM
>>>Subject: RE: [sconz] damn cheap jza70
>>>
>>>
>>>24 years old?  A typo perhaps?
>>>
>>>________________________________
>>>
>>>From: bounce-54880-33@list.supras.org.nz on behalf of Looonie
>>>Sent: Tue 9/05/2006 08:41
>>>To: Supra Club of NZ Mailing List
>>>Subject: Re: [sconz] damn cheap jza70
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>Not really, thats expensive for a automatic 24 year old car.
>>>
>>>Regards
>>>
>>>Dave Thom
>>>Technical Manager
>>>027 344 3938
>>>----- Original Message -----
>>>From: "Matthew Adair" <prisoner45@hotmail.com>
>>>To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List" <sconz@list.supras.org.nz>
>>>Sent: Monday, May 08, 2006 6:31 PM
>>>Subject: [sconz] damn cheap jza70
>>>
>>>
>>>>http://www.trademe.co.nz/Trade-Me-Motors/Cars/Toyota/auction-56086692.htm
>>>>
>>>>damn thats cheap
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Re: damn cheap jza70   2006-05-09 13:22:00 <john shannon>

Thats what i am saying you would pay $20k for a genuine gtr but not a gts4 with all the gtr stuff on it.


From: "Looonie" <supras@boost.org.nz>
Reply-To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List" <sconz@list.supras.org.nz>
To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List" <sconz@list.supras.org.nz>
Subject: Re: [sconz] damn cheap jza70
Date: Tue, 9 May 2006 13:14:34 +1200

Not really the same at all John considering that a GTR has wider body guards, different seats, transmission, rear differential, gearbox...
 
Again the only differences that I'm aware of between an MA70 and a JZA70 of the same vintage is the engine and gearbox (and intercooler, power steering lines, loom, ecu, torque converter... )
 
So you're still not making a valid point with facts.
 
Also I doubt anyone could get $20,000+ for a GTS4 with an RB26 (assuming we're talking R32 chassis here) considering the genuine item is only just hitting that price for nice examples.

Regards
 
Dave Thom
Technical Manager
Harvey Norman New Plymouth
027 344 3938
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, May 09, 2006 1:09 PM
Subject: Re: [sconz] damn cheap jza70

so that be the same as spending $20,000+ on a gts4 with a rb26 in it i would want the real thing for that price would you.


From: "Looonie" <supras@boost.org.nz>
Reply-To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List" <sconz@list.supras.org.nz>
To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List" <sconz@list.supras.org.nz>
Subject: Re: [sconz] damn cheap jza70
Date: Tue, 9 May 2006 12:56:35 +1200

Don't see any reason why not, I'm not the kind of person who's fixated on over paying for a couple of letters stamped different on the firewall.

Regards
 
Dave Thom
Technical Manager
Harvey Norman New Plymouth
027 344 3938
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, May 09, 2006 12:50 PM
Subject: Re: [sconz] damn cheap jza70

all i can say on that one is, if you were looking to buy a jza70 would you pay the same for a ma70 with a 1jz in it.


From: "Looonie" <supras@boost.org.nz>
Reply-To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List" <sconz@list.supras.org.nz>
To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List" <sconz@list.supras.org.nz>
Subject: Re: [sconz] damn cheap jza70
Date: Tue, 9 May 2006 12:43:09 +1200

*shrug* I guess I'll find that out for sure in the next couple of weeks. So far as I am aware there is no difference between an 89.5+ MA70 cross-member and a JZA70 cross-member.
 
What differences are there between a JZA70 and an MA70?  Other than the engine and gearbox? Please list them.

Regards
 
Dave Thom
Technical Manager
Harvey Norman New Plymouth
027 344 3938
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, May 09, 2006 12:37 PM
Subject: Re: [sconz] damn cheap jza70

lol now your taking the piss, you say just put a 1jz into a ma70 shell and thay are the same as a jza70 it will never be the same.


From: "Looonie" <supras@boost.org.nz>
Reply-To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List" <sconz@list.supras.org.nz>
To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List" <sconz@list.supras.org.nz>
Subject: Re: [sconz] damn cheap jza70
Date: Tue, 9 May 2006 12:29:41 +1200

Hunt, why do you need a x-member? And since when do they cost $500? Mine just sold for about $11 on trademe.
 
As for the labour, I never account for that as its my own personal time and a labour of love. Obviously if you were paying somebody to do this conversion for you it would probably gear closer to $10,000.
 
As for it not being as good as a stock JZA70, I'd dispute that as there would be no difference (dependant on the intercooler you used obviously).

Regards
 
Dave Thom
Technical Manager
Harvey Norman New Plymouth
027 344 3938
----- Original Message -----
From: Hunt M
Sent: Tuesday, May 09, 2006 12:23 PM
Subject: RE: [sconz] damn cheap jza70

Lets see
$1500 for 1JZ with auto box

$500 for x-member

$1500 for MA70 shell.

20 hours labour at $50 per hour = $1000

 

Oh look at that – $4,500 and you just know its not going to be as good as a stock JZA

 


From: bounce-54893-72@list.supras.org.nz [mailto:bounce-54893-72@list.supras.org.nz] On Behalf Of Looonie
Sent: Tuesday, 9 May 2006 12:05 p.m.
To: Supra Club of NZ Mailing List
Subject: Re: [sconz] damn cheap jza70

 

How on earth do you figure it will cost more than $4000 to put a $1500 1JZ-GTE with auto box, loom and ECU into an 86 MA70?


Regards

 

Dave Thom
Technical Manager
Harvey Norman New Plymouth
027 344 3938

----- Original Message -----

From: john shannon

Sent: Tuesday, May 09, 2006 12:01 PM

Subject: Re: [sconz] damn cheap jza70

 

It still cost you more than $4000 to do thats, and it still will not be a jza70, i paid $11,500 for mine and i think its worth every cent to me, you try to find a 280hp stock car for less than $4000.


From:  "Looonie" <supras@boost.org.nz>
Reply-To:  "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List" <sconz@list.supras.org.nz>
To:  "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List" <sconz@list.supras.org.nz>
Subject:  Re: [sconz] damn cheap jza70
Date:  Tue, 9 May 2006 11:13:19 +1200
>I guess I should start buying $500 86 supras and banging in $1500
>automatic 1JZ-GTE's and selling them for $4,000 as everyone
>obviously thinks they're worth that :)
>
>I'm not detracting from the car at all, I think its a bloody nice
>car, and its a fair price for the vehicle. I'm disputing however
>that its "cheap". MKIII's are just overpriced which is why this
>looks "cheap".
>
>Regards
>
>Dave Thom
>Technical Manager
>Harvey Norman New Plymouth
>027 344 3938
>----- Original Message ----- From: "Darcy Cresswell"
><dlc702@hotmail.com>
>To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List" <sconz@list.supras.org.nz>
>Sent: Tuesday, May 09, 2006 11:06 AM
>Subject: Re: [sconz] damn cheap jza70
>
>
>>Id happily pay $4000 for any (driveable) car with a good running
>>1jz-gte!!
>>
>>----Original Message Follows----
>>From: "Looonie" <supras@boost.org.nz>
>>Reply-To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List"
>><sconz@list.supras.org.nz>
>>To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List" <sconz@list.supras.org.nz>
>>Subject: Re: [sconz] damn cheap jza70
>>Date: Tue, 9 May 2006 10:38:40 +1200
>>
>>So you'd happily pay $4,500 for any 14 year old car so long as its
>>in tidy condition?
>>
>>Regards
>>
>>Dave Thom
>>Technical Manager
>>Harvey Norman New Plymouth
>>027 344 3938
>>----- Original Message ----- From: "Hunt M" <5uprah@supras.co.nz>
>>To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List" <sconz@list.supras.org.nz>
>>Sent: Tuesday, May 09, 2006 10:29 AM
>>Subject: RE: [sconz] damn cheap jza70
>>
>>
>>>Not really - it seems like a pretty nice example.
>>>
>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>From: bounce-54882-72@list.supras.org.nz
>>>[mailto:bounce-54882-72@list.supras.org.nz] On Behalf Of Looonie
>>>Sent: Tuesday, 9 May 2006 9:05 a.m.
>>>To: Supra Club of NZ Mailing List
>>>Subject: Re: [sconz] damn cheap jza70
>>>
>>>Sorry, too early in the morning for my brain to activate (not that
>>>it ever
>>>does)...
>>>
>>>14 year old car :)
>>>
>>>Regards
>>>
>>>Dave Thom
>>>Technical Manager
>>>Harvey Norman New Plymouth
>>>027 344 3938
>>>----- Original Message ----- From: "Peter Nield (DSL AK)"
>>><PeterN@datacom.co.nz>
>>>To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List" <sconz@list.supras.org.nz>
>>>Sent: Tuesday, May 09, 2006 8:55 AM
>>>Subject: RE: [sconz] damn cheap jza70
>>>
>>>
>>>24 years old?  A typo perhaps?
>>>
>>>________________________________
>>>
>>>From: bounce-54880-33@list.supras.org.nz on behalf of Looonie
>>>Sent: Tue 9/05/2006 08:41
>>>To: Supra Club of NZ Mailing List
>>>Subject: Re: [sconz] damn cheap jza70
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>Not really, thats expensive for a automatic 24 year old car.
>>>
>>>Regards
>>>
>>>Dave Thom
>>>Technical Manager
>>>027 344 3938
>>>----- Original Message -----
>>>From: "Matthew Adair" <prisoner45@hotmail.com>
>>>To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List" <sconz@list.supras.org.nz>
>>>Sent: Monday, May 08, 2006 6:31 PM
>>>Subject: [sconz] damn cheap jza70
>>>
>>>
>>>>http://www.trademe.co.nz/Trade-Me-Motors/Cars/Toyota/auction-56086692.htm
>>>>
>>>>damn thats cheap
>>>>---
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>>>>
>>>
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RE: damn cheap jza70   2006-05-09 13:25:00 <Cully Paterson>

> From: Looonie [mailto:supras@boost.org.nz]
> Sent: Tuesday, 9 May 2006 1:10 p.m.
> To: SCONZ.list Forward
> Subject: Re: [sconz] damn cheap jza70


> That is what I'm saying yes, I don't see any reason why it
wouldn't be seeing as
>the engine and box are the only significant = differences between a 90+
MA70 and a JZA70.
>(Bearing in mind that Torsen diffs and recaro seats are options so
therefore not applicable
>to a comparison)

> Again if somebody wishes to correct me with facts then please
do, I'm never against
>being corrected if I'm wrong, but so far nobody has done so.


The reasons are many and all quite simple:
- Insurance companies won't touch the car or will charge silly money to
insure them. This raises the cost of ownership of the car = lower
value.
- The modification, no matter how good or even perfect, will never be
conceptually as acceptable to a buyer as an original vehicle. The train
of thought is simply: It's been messed with, I don't know how well it's
been done, ergo it's not worth the risk/worth as much money.
- Very few if any conversions get things done 100% correct - there's
usually something left over that doesn't work (gauges/meters/etc), or
requires a dodgy bit of electronics to make work (speedos), or is
disabled and compromises safety due to laziness (fuel pump switching).
Again, risk/value pay off.
- Conversions very often don't bring the vehicle up to the standard of
the stock vehicle you're trying to simulate. ABS/Cruise
Control/Electric Seats/Facelift interior and/or body/LSD/Torsen diff etc
etc. Just think how much you'd have to pay to buy the Recaros, Momo
steering wheel, late model mags, facelift spoiler and bumpers, full
interior, light weight bonnet and so on to emulate a JZA70-Turbo R?
Would you? Of course not. Would it affect the value? Of course.

...and so on. It doesn't matter in the least whether or not you're the
kind of person who cares about the letters on the VIN plate: the rest of
the world does, and the buyers dictate the value, not you.


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Re: damn cheap jza70   2006-05-09 13:26:00 <john shannon>

So if you paid out and got all the stuff that a ma70 turbo A got on it could you call your ma70 a turbo A and get the same price for it.


From: "Looonie" <supras@boost.org.nz>
Reply-To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List" <sconz@list.supras.org.nz>
To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List" <sconz@list.supras.org.nz>
Subject: Re: [sconz] damn cheap jza70
Date: Tue, 9 May 2006 12:57:39 +1200

They are obviously as there are significant upgrades on the Turbo A and there are only 500 made so that makes them a limited edition model.
 
I'm not saying an MA70 is worth the same $$ as a JZA70. Unless it has a 1JZ engine and box in it.

Regards
 
Dave Thom
Technical Manager
Harvey Norman New Plymouth
027 344 3938
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, May 09, 2006 12:53 PM
Subject: Re: [sconz] damn cheap jza70

Same as a ma70 turbo A, are thay worth the same as a stock ma70


From: "Looonie" <supras@boost.org.nz>
Reply-To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List" <sconz@list.supras.org.nz>
To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List" <sconz@list.supras.org.nz>
Subject: Re: [sconz] damn cheap jza70
Date: Tue, 9 May 2006 12:43:09 +1200

*shrug* I guess I'll find that out for sure in the next couple of weeks. So far as I am aware there is no difference between an 89.5+ MA70 cross-member and a JZA70 cross-member.
 
What differences are there between a JZA70 and an MA70?  Other than the engine and gearbox? Please list them.

Regards
 
Dave Thom
Technical Manager
Harvey Norman New Plymouth
027 344 3938
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, May 09, 2006 12:37 PM
Subject: Re: [sconz] damn cheap jza70

lol now your taking the piss, you say just put a 1jz into a ma70 shell and thay are the same as a jza70 it will never be the same.


From: "Looonie" <supras@boost.org.nz>
Reply-To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List" <sconz@list.supras.org.nz>
To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List" <sconz@list.supras.org.nz>
Subject: Re: [sconz] damn cheap jza70
Date: Tue, 9 May 2006 12:29:41 +1200

Hunt, why do you need a x-member? And since when do they cost $500? Mine just sold for about $11 on trademe.
 
As for the labour, I never account for that as its my own personal time and a labour of love. Obviously if you were paying somebody to do this conversion for you it would probably gear closer to $10,000.
 
As for it not being as good as a stock JZA70, I'd dispute that as there would be no difference (dependant on the intercooler you used obviously).

Regards
 
Dave Thom
Technical Manager
Harvey Norman New Plymouth
027 344 3938
----- Original Message -----
From: Hunt M
Sent: Tuesday, May 09, 2006 12:23 PM
Subject: RE: [sconz] damn cheap jza70

Lets see
$1500 for 1JZ with auto box

$500 for x-member

$1500 for MA70 shell.

20 hours labour at $50 per hour = $1000

 

Oh look at that – $4,500 and you just know its not going to be as good as a stock JZA

 


From: bounce-54893-72@list.supras.org.nz [mailto:bounce-54893-72@list.supras.org.nz] On Behalf Of Looonie
Sent: Tuesday, 9 May 2006 12:05 p.m.
To: Supra Club of NZ Mailing List
Subject: Re: [sconz] damn cheap jza70

 

How on earth do you figure it will cost more than $4000 to put a $1500 1JZ-GTE with auto box, loom and ECU into an 86 MA70?


Regards

 

Dave Thom
Technical Manager
Harvey Norman New Plymouth
027 344 3938

----- Original Message -----

From: john shannon

Sent: Tuesday, May 09, 2006 12:01 PM

Subject: Re: [sconz] damn cheap jza70

 

It still cost you more than $4000 to do thats, and it still will not be a jza70, i paid $11,500 for mine and i think its worth every cent to me, you try to find a 280hp stock car for less than $4000.


From:  "Looonie" <supras@boost.org.nz>
Reply-To:  "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List" <sconz@list.supras.org.nz>
To:  "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List" <sconz@list.supras.org.nz>
Subject:  Re: [sconz] damn cheap jza70
Date:  Tue, 9 May 2006 11:13:19 +1200
>I guess I should start buying $500 86 supras and banging in $1500
>automatic 1JZ-GTE's and selling them for $4,000 as everyone
>obviously thinks they're worth that :)
>
>I'm not detracting from the car at all, I think its a bloody nice
>car, and its a fair price for the vehicle. I'm disputing however
>that its "cheap". MKIII's are just overpriced which is why this
>looks "cheap".
>
>Regards
>
>Dave Thom
>Technical Manager
>Harvey Norman New Plymouth
>027 344 3938
>----- Original Message ----- From: "Darcy Cresswell"
><dlc702@hotmail.com>
>To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List" <sconz@list.supras.org.nz>
>Sent: Tuesday, May 09, 2006 11:06 AM
>Subject: Re: [sconz] damn cheap jza70
>
>
>>Id happily pay $4000 for any (driveable) car with a good running
>>1jz-gte!!
>>
>>----Original Message Follows----
>>From: "Looonie" <supras@boost.org.nz>
>>Reply-To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List"
>><sconz@list.supras.org.nz>
>>To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List" <sconz@list.supras.org.nz>
>>Subject: Re: [sconz] damn cheap jza70
>>Date: Tue, 9 May 2006 10:38:40 +1200
>>
>>So you'd happily pay $4,500 for any 14 year old car so long as its
>>in tidy condition?
>>
>>Regards
>>
>>Dave Thom
>>Technical Manager
>>Harvey Norman New Plymouth
>>027 344 3938
>>----- Original Message ----- From: "Hunt M" <5uprah@supras.co.nz>
>>To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List" <sconz@list.supras.org.nz>
>>Sent: Tuesday, May 09, 2006 10:29 AM
>>Subject: RE: [sconz] damn cheap jza70
>>
>>
>>>Not really - it seems like a pretty nice example.
>>>
>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>From: bounce-54882-72@list.supras.org.nz
>>>[mailto:bounce-54882-72@list.supras.org.nz] On Behalf Of Looonie
>>>Sent: Tuesday, 9 May 2006 9:05 a.m.
>>>To: Supra Club of NZ Mailing List
>>>Subject: Re: [sconz] damn cheap jza70
>>>
>>>Sorry, too early in the morning for my brain to activate (not that
>>>it ever
>>>does)...
>>>
>>>14 year old car :)
>>>
>>>Regards
>>>
>>>Dave Thom
>>>Technical Manager
>>>Harvey Norman New Plymouth
>>>027 344 3938
>>>----- Original Message ----- From: "Peter Nield (DSL AK)"
>>><PeterN@datacom.co.nz>
>>>To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List" <sconz@list.supras.org.nz>
>>>Sent: Tuesday, May 09, 2006 8:55 AM
>>>Subject: RE: [sconz] damn cheap jza70
>>>
>>>
>>>24 years old?  A typo perhaps?
>>>
>>>________________________________
>>>
>>>From: bounce-54880-33@list.supras.org.nz on behalf of Looonie
>>>Sent: Tue 9/05/2006 08:41
>>>To: Supra Club of NZ Mailing List
>>>Subject: Re: [sconz] damn cheap jza70
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>Not really, thats expensive for a automatic 24 year old car.
>>>
>>>Regards
>>>
>>>Dave Thom
>>>Technical Manager
>>>027 344 3938
>>>----- Original Message -----
>>>From: "Matthew Adair" <prisoner45@hotmail.com>
>>>To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List" <sconz@list.supras.org.nz>
>>>Sent: Monday, May 08, 2006 6:31 PM
>>>Subject: [sconz] damn cheap jza70
>>>
>>>
>>>>http://www.trademe.co.nz/Trade-Me-Motors/Cars/Toyota/auction-56086692.htm
>>>>
>>>>damn thats cheap
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RE: damn cheap jza70   2006-05-09 13:33:00 <Hunt M>
The genuine arcticle is always going to be worth more than someone who's
thrown it all together only to make it look genuine





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From: bounce-54921-72@list.supras.org.nz
[mailto:bounce-54921-72@list.supras.org.nz] On Behalf Of john shannon
Sent: Tuesday, 9 May 2006 1:22 p.m.
To: Supra Club of NZ Mailing List
Subject: Re: [sconz] damn cheap jza70



Thats what i am saying you would pay $20k for a genuine gtr but not a gts4
with all the gtr stuff on it.


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From: "Looonie" <supras@boost.org.nz>
Reply-To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List" <sconz@list.supras.org.nz>
To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List" <sconz@list.supras.org.nz>
Subject: Re: [sconz] damn cheap jza70
Date: Tue, 9 May 2006 13:14:34 +1200

Not really the same at all John considering that a GTR has wider body
guards, different seats, transmission, rear differential, gearbox...



Again the only differences that I'm aware of between an MA70 and a JZA70 of
the same vintage is the engine and gearbox (and intercooler, power steering
lines, loom, ecu, torque converter... )



So you're still not making a valid point with facts.



Also I doubt anyone could get $20,000+ for a GTS4 with an RB26 (assuming
we're talking R32 chassis here) considering the genuine item is only just
hitting that price for nice examples.


Regards



Dave Thom
Technical Manager
Harvey Norman New Plymouth
027 344 3938

----- Original Message -----

From: john <mailto:jshannon55@hotmail.com> shannon

To: Supra <mailto:sconz@list.supras.org.nz> Club of NZ Mailing List

Sent: Tuesday, May 09, 2006 1:09 PM

Subject: Re: [sconz] damn cheap jza70



so that be the same as spending $20,000+ on a gts4 with a rb26 in it i would
want the real thing for that price would you.


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Reply-To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List" <sconz@list.supras.org.nz>
To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List" <sconz@list.supras.org.nz>
Subject: Re: [sconz] damn cheap jza70
Date: Tue, 9 May 2006 12:56:35 +1200

Don't see any reason why not, I'm not the kind of person who's fixated on
over paying for a couple of letters stamped different on the firewall.


Regards



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Technical Manager
Harvey Norman New Plymouth
027 344 3938

----- Original Message -----

From: john <mailto:jshannon55@hotmail.com> shannon

To: Supra <mailto:sconz@list.supras.org.nz> Club of NZ Mailing List

Sent: Tuesday, May 09, 2006 12:50 PM

Subject: Re: [sconz] damn cheap jza70



all i can say on that one is, if you were looking to buy a jza70 would you
pay the same for a ma70 with a 1jz in it.


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From: "Looonie" <supras@boost.org.nz>
Reply-To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List" <sconz@list.supras.org.nz>
To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List" <sconz@list.supras.org.nz>
Subject: Re: [sconz] damn cheap jza70
Date: Tue, 9 May 2006 12:43:09 +1200

*shrug* I guess I'll find that out for sure in the next couple of weeks. So
far as I am aware there is no difference between an 89.5+ MA70 cross-member
and a JZA70 cross-member.



What differences are there between a JZA70 and an MA70? Other than the
engine and gearbox? Please list them.


Regards



Dave Thom
Technical Manager
Harvey Norman New Plymouth
027 344 3938

----- Original Message -----

From: john <mailto:jshannon55@hotmail.com> shannon

To: Supra <mailto:sconz@list.supras.org.nz> Club of NZ Mailing List

Sent: Tuesday, May 09, 2006 12:37 PM

Subject: Re: [sconz] damn cheap jza70



lol now your taking the piss, you say just put a 1jz into a ma70 shell and
thay are the same as a jza70 it will never be the same.


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From: "Looonie" <supras@boost.org.nz>
Reply-To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List" <sconz@list.supras.org.nz>
To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List" <sconz@list.supras.org.nz>
Subject: Re: [sconz] damn cheap jza70
Date: Tue, 9 May 2006 12:29:41 +1200

Hunt, why do you need a x-member? And since when do they cost $500? Mine
just sold for about $11 on trademe.



As for the labour, I never account for that as its my own personal time and
a labour of love. Obviously if you were paying somebody to do this
conversion for you it would probably gear closer to $10,000.



As for it not being as good as a stock JZA70, I'd dispute that as there
would be no difference (dependant on the intercooler you used obviously).


Regards



Dave Thom
Technical Manager
Harvey Norman New Plymouth
027 344 3938

----- Original Message -----

From: Hunt M <mailto:5uprah@supras.co.nz>

To: Supra <mailto:sconz@list.supras.org.nz> Club of NZ Mailing List

Sent: Tuesday, May 09, 2006 12:23 PM

Subject: RE: [sconz] damn cheap jza70



Lets see
$1500 for 1JZ with auto box

$500 for x-member

$1500 for MA70 shell.

20 hours labour at $50 per hour = $1000



Oh look at that - $4,500 and you just know its not going to be as good as a
stock JZA




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From: bounce-54893-72@list.supras.org.nz
[mailto:bounce-54893-72@list.supras.org.nz] On Behalf Of Looonie
Sent: Tuesday, 9 May 2006 12:05 p.m.
To: Supra Club of NZ Mailing List
Subject: Re: [sconz] damn cheap jza70



How on earth do you figure it will cost more than $4000 to put a $1500
1JZ-GTE with auto box, loom and ECU into an 86 MA70?


Regards



Dave Thom
Technical Manager
Harvey Norman New Plymouth
027 344 3938

----- Original Message -----

From: john <mailto:jshannon55@hotmail.com> shannon

To: Supra <mailto:sconz@list.supras.org.nz> Club of NZ Mailing List

Sent: Tuesday, May 09, 2006 12:01 PM

Subject: Re: [sconz] damn cheap jza70



It still cost you more than $4000 to do thats, and it still will not be a
jza70, i paid $11,500 for mine and i think its worth every cent to me, you
try to find a 280hp stock car for less than $4000.


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From: "Looonie" <supras@boost.org.nz>
Reply-To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List" <sconz@list.supras.org.nz>
To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List" <sconz@list.supras.org.nz>
Subject: Re: [sconz] damn cheap jza70
Date: Tue, 9 May 2006 11:13:19 +1200
>I guess I should start buying $500 86 supras and banging in $1500
>automatic 1JZ-GTE's and selling them for $4,000 as everyone
>obviously thinks they're worth that :)
>
>I'm not detracting from the car at all, I think its a bloody nice
>car, and its a fair price for the vehicle. I'm disputing however
>that its "cheap". MKIII's are just overpriced which is why this
>looks "cheap".
>
>Regards
>
>Dave Thom
>Technical Manager
>Harvey Norman New Plymouth
>027 344 3938
>----- Original Message ----- From: "Darcy Cresswell"
><dlc702@hotmail.com>
>To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List" <sconz@list.supras.org.nz>
>Sent: Tuesday, May 09, 2006 11:06 AM
>Subject: Re: [sconz] damn cheap jza70
>
>
>>Id happily pay $4000 for any (driveable) car with a good running
>>1jz-gte!!
>>
>>----Original Message Follows----
>>From: "Looonie" <supras@boost.org.nz>
>>Reply-To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List"
>><sconz@list.supras.org.nz>
>>To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List" <sconz@list.supras.org.nz>
>>Subject: Re: [sconz] damn cheap jza70
>>Date: Tue, 9 May 2006 10:38:40 +1200
>>
>>So you'd happily pay $4,500 for any 14 year old car so long as its
>>in tidy condition?
>>
>>Regards
>>
>>Dave Thom
>>Technical Manager
>>Harvey Norman New Plymouth
>>027 344 3938
>>----- Original Message ----- From: "Hunt M" <5uprah@supras.co.nz>
>>To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List" <sconz@list.supras.org.nz>
>>Sent: Tuesday, May 09, 2006 10:29 AM
>>Subject: RE: [sconz] damn cheap jza70
>>
>>
>>>Not really - it seems like a pretty nice example.
>>>
>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>From: bounce-54882-72@list.supras.org.nz
>>>[mailto:bounce-54882-72@list.supras.org.nz] On Behalf Of Looonie
>>>Sent: Tuesday, 9 May 2006 9:05 a.m.
>>>To: Supra Club of NZ Mailing List
>>>Subject: Re: [sconz] damn cheap jza70
>>>
>>>Sorry, too early in the morning for my brain to activate (not that
>>>it rbocharger http://www.turbo.co.nz


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Re: damn cheap jza70   2006-05-09 13:36:00 <Looonie>
Valid points Cully, thank you for somebody finally making them.

However just one issue, I'm not in any way comparing the Turbo R against an
MA70. Obviously the Turbo R has significant additional components that would
incur extra cost.

And regarding your point as to the buyer dictating the price, that is a
fairy call, I'm only arguing from my point of view which is in respect to
building a car for myself.

But yes, there are numerous small details and differences that most people
wouldn't account for when doing the conversion. But thats something thats
obviously different for different people, depending who was doing the
conversion and what their methodology and work ethic was like.

Regards

Dave Thom
Technical Manager
027 344 3938
----- Original Message -----
From: "Cully Paterson" <Cully@supras.org.nz>
To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List" <sconz@list.supras.org.nz>
Sent: Tuesday, May 09, 2006 1:25 PM
Subject: RE: [sconz] damn cheap jza70



> From: Looonie [mailto:supras@boost.org.nz]
> Sent: Tuesday, 9 May 2006 1:10 p.m.
> To: SCONZ.list Forward
> Subject: Re: [sconz] damn cheap jza70


> That is what I'm saying yes, I don't see any reason why it
wouldn't be seeing as
>the engine and box are the only significant = differences between a 90+
MA70 and a JZA70.
>(Bearing in mind that Torsen diffs and recaro seats are options so
therefore not applicable
>to a comparison)

> Again if somebody wishes to correct me with facts then please
do, I'm never against
>being corrected if I'm wrong, but so far nobody has done so.


The reasons are many and all quite simple:
- Insurance companies won't touch the car or will charge silly money to
insure them. This raises the cost of ownership of the car = lower
value.
- The modification, no matter how good or even perfect, will never be
conceptually as acceptable to a buyer as an original vehicle. The train
of thought is simply: It's been messed with, I don't know how well it's
been done, ergo it's not worth the risk/worth as much money.
- Very few if any conversions get things done 100% correct - there's
usually something left over that doesn't work (gauges/meters/etc), or
requires a dodgy bit of electronics to make work (speedos), or is
disabled and compromises safety due to laziness (fuel pump switching).
Again, risk/value pay off.
- Conversions very often don't bring the vehicle up to the standard of
the stock vehicle you're trying to simulate. ABS/Cruise
Control/Electric Seats/Facelift interior and/or body/LSD/Torsen diff etc
etc. Just think how much you'd have to pay to buy the Recaros, Momo
steering wheel, late model mags, facelift spoiler and bumpers, full
interior, light weight bonnet and so on to emulate a JZA70-Turbo R?
Would you? Of course not. Would it affect the value? Of course.

...and so on. It doesn't matter in the least whether or not you're the
kind of person who cares about the letters on the VIN plate: the rest of
the world does, and the buyers dictate the value, not you.



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Re: damn cheap jza70   2006-05-09 13:38:00 <Suze>
and we all know the turbo a is better :P

On 5/9/06, Looonie <supras@boost.org.nz> wrote:
>
> Valid points Cully, thank you for somebody finally making them.
>
> However just one issue, I'm not in any way comparing the Turbo R against
> an
> MA70. Obviously the Turbo R has significant additional components that
> would
> incur extra cost.
>
> And regarding your point as to the buyer dictating the price, that is a
> fairy call, I'm only arguing from my point of view which is in respect to
> building a car for myself.
>
> But yes, there are numerous small details and differences that most people
> wouldn't account for when doing the conversion. But thats something thats
> obviously different for different people, depending who was doing the
> conversion and what their methodology and work ethic was like.
>
> Regards
>
> Dave Thom
> Technical Manager
> 027 344 3938
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Cully Paterson" <Cully@supras.org.nz>
> To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List" <sconz@list.supras.org.nz>
> Sent: Tuesday, May 09, 2006 1:25 PM
> Subject: RE: [sconz] damn cheap jza70
>
>
>
> > From: Looonie [mailto:supras@boost.org.nz]
> > Sent: Tuesday, 9 May 2006 1:10 p.m.
> > To: SCONZ.list Forward
> > Subject: Re: [sconz] damn cheap jza70
>
>
> > That is what I'm saying yes, I don't see any reason why it
> wouldn't be seeing as
> >the engine and box are the only significant = differences between a 90+
> MA70 and a JZA70.
> >(Bearing in mind that Torsen diffs and recaro seats are options so
> therefore not applicable
> >to a comparison)
>
> > Again if somebody wishes to correct me with facts then please
> do, I'm never against
> >being corrected if I'm wrong, but so far nobody has done so.
>
>
> The reasons are many and all quite simple:
> - Insurance companies won't touch the car or will charge silly money to
> insure them. This raises the cost of ownership of the car = lower
> value.
> - The modification, no matter how good or even perfect, will never be
> conceptually as acceptable to a buyer as an original vehicle. The train
> of thought is simply: It's been messed with, I don't know how well it's
> been done, ergo it's not worth the risk/worth as much money.
> - Very few if any conversions get things done 100% correct - there's
> usually something left over that doesn't work (gauges/meters/etc), or
> requires a dodgy bit of electronics to make work (speedos), or is
> disabled and compromises safety due to laziness (fuel pump switching).
> Again, risk/value pay off.
> - Conversions very often don't bring the vehicle up to the standard of
> the stock vehicle you're trying to simulate. ABS/Cruise
> Control/Electric Seats/Facelift interior and/or body/LSD/Torsen diff etc
> etc. Just think how much you'd have to pay to buy the Recaros, Momo
> steering wheel, late model mags, facelift spoiler and bumpers, full
> interior, light weight bonnet and so on to emulate a JZA70-Turbo R?
> Would you? Of course not. Would it affect the value? Of course.
>
> ...and so on. It doesn't matter in the least whether or not you're the
> kind of person who cares about the letters on the VIN plate: the rest of
> the world does, and the buyers dictate the value, not you.
>
>
>
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Re: damn cheap jza70   2006-05-09 13:38:00 <Looonie>
*sigh*

No John you couldn't, because the Turbo A IS A LIMITED EDITION RUN, so thereby specific to this particular model, the VIN plate and Chassis code are obviously relevant to the cost of the motor vehicle.

The JZA70 is not a limited run, therefore (again in my opinion) not susceptible to inflated cost due to the "prestige" of the VIN plate/Chassis code.

I never stated you could call your "MA70 with a 1JZ in it" a JZA70, only that I don't see what significant difference there would be between that and a JZA70 that would dictate a significant difference in price.

Regards

Dave Thom
Technical Manager
027 344 3938
----- Original Message -----
From: john shannon
To: Supra Club of NZ Mailing List
Sent: Tuesday, May 09, 2006 1:25 PM
Subject: Re: [sconz] damn cheap jza70


So if you paid out and got all the stuff that a ma70 turbo A got on it could you call your ma70 a turbo A and get the same price for it.




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From: "Looonie" <supras@boost.org.nz>
Reply-To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List" <sconz@list.supras.org.nz>
To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List" <sconz@list.supras.org.nz>
Subject: Re: [sconz] damn cheap jza70
Date: Tue, 9 May 2006 12:57:39 +1200


They are obviously as there are significant upgrades on the Turbo A and there are only 500 made so that makes them a limited edition model.

I'm not saying an MA70 is worth the same $$ as a JZA70. Unless it has a 1JZ engine and box in it.

Regards

Dave Thom
Technical Manager
Harvey Norman New Plymouth
027 344 3938
----- Original Message -----
From: john shannon
To: Supra Club of NZ Mailing List
Sent: Tuesday, May 09, 2006 12:53 PM
Subject: Re: [sconz] damn cheap jza70


Same as a ma70 turbo A, are thay worth the same as a stock ma70




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From: "Looonie" <supras@boost.org.nz>
Reply-To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List" <sconz@list.supras.org.nz>
To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List" <sconz@list.supras.org.nz>
Subject: Re: [sconz] damn cheap jza70
Date: Tue, 9 May 2006 12:43:09 +1200


*shrug* I guess I'll find that out for sure in the next couple of weeks. So far as I am aware there is no difference between an 89.5+ MA70 cross-member and a JZA70 cross-member.

What differences are there between a JZA70 and an MA70? Other than the engine and gearbox? Please list them.

Regards

Dave Thom
Technical Manager
Harvey Norman New Plymouth
027 344 3938
----- Original Message -----
From: john shannon
To: Supra Club of NZ Mailing List
Sent: Tuesday, May 09, 2006 12:37 PM
Subject: Re: [sconz] damn cheap jza70


lol now your taking the piss, you say just put a 1jz into a ma70 shell and thay are the same as a jza70 it will never be the same.




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From: "Looonie" <supras@boost.org.nz>
Reply-To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List" <sconz@list.supras.org.nz>
To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List" <sconz@list.supras.org.nz>
Subject: Re: [sconz] damn cheap jza70
Date: Tue, 9 May 2006 12:29:41 +1200


Hunt, why do you need a x-member? And since when do they cost $500? Mine just sold for about $11 on trademe.

As for the labour, I never account for that as its my own personal time and a labour of love. Obviously if you were paying somebody to do this conversion for you it would probably gear closer to $10,000.

As for it not being as good as a stock JZA70, I'd dispute that as there would be no difference (dependant on the intercooler you used obviously).

Regards

Dave Thom
Technical Manager
Harvey Norman New Plymouth
027 344 3938
----- Original Message -----
From: Hunt M
To: Supra Club of NZ Mailing List
Sent: Tuesday, May 09, 2006 12:23 PM
Subject: RE: [sconz] damn cheap jza70


Lets see
$1500 for 1JZ with auto box

$500 for x-member

$1500 for MA70 shell.

20 hours labour at $50 per hour = $1000



Oh look at that - $4,500 and you just know its not going to be as good as a stock JZA




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From: bounce-54893-72@list.supras.org.nz [mailto:bounce-54893-72@list.supras.org.nz] On Behalf Of Looonie
Sent: Tuesday, 9 May 2006 12:05 p.m.
To: Supra Club of NZ Mailing List
Subject: Re: [sconz] damn cheap jza70



How on earth do you figure it will cost more than $4000 to put a $1500 1JZ-GTE with auto box, loom and ECU into an 86 MA70?


Regards



Dave Thom
Technical Manager
Harvey Norman New Plymouth
027 344 3938

----- Original Message -----

From: john shannon

To: Supra Club of NZ Mailing List

Sent: Tuesday, May 09, 2006 12:01 PM

Subject: Re: [sconz] damn cheap jza70



It still cost you more than $4000 to do thats, and it still will not be a jza70, i paid $11,500 for mine and i think its worth every cent to me, you try to find a 280hp stock car for less than $4000.


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From: "Looonie" <supras@boost.org.nz>
Reply-To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List" <sconz@list.supras.org.nz>
To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List" <sconz@list.supras.org.nz>
Subject: Re: [sconz] damn cheap jza70
Date: Tue, 9 May 2006 11:13:19 +1200
>I guess I should start buying $500 86 supras and banging in $1500
>automatic 1JZ-GTE's and selling them for $4,000 as everyone
>obviously thinks they're worth that :)
>
>I'm not detracting from the car at all, I think its a bloody nice
>car, and its a fair price for the vehicle. I'm disputing however
>that its "cheap". MKIII's are just overpriced which is why this
>looks "cheap".
>
>Regards
>
>Dave Thom
>Technical Manager
>Harvey Norman New Plymouth
>027 344 3938
>----- Original Message ----- From: "Darcy Cresswell"
><dlc702@hotmail.com>
>To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List" <sconz@list.supras.org.nz>
>Sent: Tuesday, May 09, 2006 11:06 AM
>Subject: Re: [sconz] damn cheap jza70
>
>
>>Id happily pay $4000 for any (driveable) car with a good running
>>1jz-gte!!
>>
>>----Original Message Follows----
>>From: "Looonie" <supras@boost.org.nz>
>>Reply-To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List"
>><sconz@list.supras.org.nz>
>>To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List" <sconz@list.supras.org.nz>
>>Subject: Re: [sconz] damn cheap jza70
>>Date: Tue, 9 May 2006 10:38:40 +1200
>>
>>So you'd happily pay $4,500 for any 14 year old car so long as its
>>in tidy condition?
>>
>>Regards
>>
>>Dave Thom
>>Technical Manager
>>Harvey Norman New Plymouth
>>027 344 3938
>>----- Original Message ----- From: "Hunt M" <5uprah@supras.co.nz>
>>To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List" <sconz@list.supras.org.nz>
>>Sent: Tuesday, May 09, 2006 10:29 AM
>>Subject: RE: [sconz] damn cheap jza70
>>
>>
>>>Not really - it seems like a pretty nice example.
>>>
>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>From: bounce-54882-72@list.supras.org.nz
>>>[mailto:bounce-54882-72@list.supras.org.nz] On Behalf Of Looonie
>>>Sent: Tuesday, 9 May 2006 9:05 a.m.
>>>To: Supra Club of NZ Mailing List
>>>Subject: Re: [sconz] damn cheap jza70
>>>
>>>Sorry, too early in the morning for my brain to activate (not that
>>>it ever
>>>does)...
>>>
>>>14 year old car :)
>>>
>>>Regards
>>>
>>>Dave Thom
>>>Technical Manager
>>>Harvey Norman New Plymouth
>>>027 344 3938
>>>----- Original Message ----- From: "Peter Nield (DSL AK)"
>>><PeterN@datacom.co.nz>
>>>To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List" <sconz@list.supras.org.nz>
>>>Sent: Tuesday, May 09, 2006 8:55 AM
>>>Subject: RE: [sconz] damn cheap jza70
>>>
>>>
>>>24 years old? A typo perhaps?
>>>
>>>________________________________
>>>
>>>From: bounce-54880-33@list.supras.org.nz on behalf of Looonie
>>>Sent: Tue 9/05/2006 08:41
>>>To: Supra Club of NZ Mailing List
>>>Subject: Re: [sconz] damn cheap jza70
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>Not really, thats expensive for a automatic 24 year old car.
>>>
>>>Regards
>>>
>>>Dave Thom
>>>Technical Manager
>>>027 344 3938
>>>----- Original Message -----
>>>From: "Matthew Adair" <prisoner45@hotmail.com>
>>>To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List" <sconz@list.supras.org.nz>
>>>Sent: Monday, May 08, 2006 6:31 PM
>>>Subject: [sconz] damn cheap jza70
>>>
>>>
>>>>http://www.trademe.co.nz/Trade-Me-Motors/Cars/Toyota/auction-56086692.htm
>>>>
>>>>damn thats cheap
>>>>---
>>>>Supra Club of New Zealand - http://www.supras.org.nz/
>>>>Website sponsored by Alltech Diesel & Turbocharger
>>>>http://www.turbo.co.nz
>>>>
>>>
>>>
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>>>Website sponsored by Alltech Diesel & Turbocharger
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>>>Website sponsored by Alltech Diesel & Turbocharger
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Re: damn cheap jza70   2006-05-09 13:39:00 <Looonie>
If you built a GTS-4 with ALL the GTR stuff on it, then sure it'd be worth about as much as a GTR in the same condition, providing the panel work had all been carried out professionally and to an OEM or higher standard.

However as I said, the differences between a GTS-4 and a GTR are far more substantial than a MA70 and a JZA70. The Skylines are essentially completely different cars, where as again, as far as I am aware, the only differences between an MA70 and a JZA70 is the engine and gearbox etc.

Regards

Dave Thom
Technical Manager
027 344 3938
----- Original Message -----
From: john shannon
To: Supra Club of NZ Mailing List
Sent: Tuesday, May 09, 2006 1:22 PM
Subject: Re: [sconz] damn cheap jza70


Thats what i am saying you would pay $20k for a genuine gtr but not a gts4 with all the gtr stuff on it.




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From: "Looonie" <supras@boost.org.nz>
Reply-To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List" <sconz@list.supras.org.nz>
To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List" <sconz@list.supras.org.nz>
Subject: Re: [sconz] damn cheap jza70
Date: Tue, 9 May 2006 13:14:34 +1200


Not really the same at all John considering that a GTR has wider body guards, different seats, transmission, rear differential, gearbox...

Again the only differences that I'm aware of between an MA70 and a JZA70 of the same vintage is the engine and gearbox (and intercooler, power steering lines, loom, ecu, torque converter... )

So you're still not making a valid point with facts.

Also I doubt anyone could get $20,000+ for a GTS4 with an RB26 (assuming we're talking R32 chassis here) considering the genuine item is only just hitting that price for nice examples.

Regards

Dave Thom
Technical Manager
Harvey Norman New Plymouth
027 344 3938
----- Original Message -----
From: john shannon
To: Supra Club of NZ Mailing List
Sent: Tuesday, May 09, 2006 1:09 PM
Subject: Re: [sconz] damn cheap jza70


so that be the same as spending $20,000+ on a gts4 with a rb26 in it i would want the real thing for that price would you.




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From: "Looonie" <supras@boost.org.nz>
Reply-To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List" <sconz@list.supras.org.nz>
To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List" <sconz@list.supras.org.nz>
Subject: Re: [sconz] damn cheap jza70
Date: Tue, 9 May 2006 12:56:35 +1200


Don't see any reason why not, I'm not the kind of person who's fixated on over paying for a couple of letters stamped different on the firewall.

Regards

Dave Thom
Technical Manager
Harvey Norman New Plymouth
027 344 3938
----- Original Message -----
From: john shannon
To: Supra Club of NZ Mailing List
Sent: Tuesday, May 09, 2006 12:50 PM
Subject: Re: [sconz] damn cheap jza70


all i can say on that one is, if you were looking to buy a jza70 would you pay the same for a ma70 with a 1jz in it.




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From: "Looonie" <supras@boost.org.nz>
Reply-To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List" <sconz@list.supras.org.nz>
To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List" <sconz@list.supras.org.nz>
Subject: Re: [sconz] damn cheap jza70
Date: Tue, 9 May 2006 12:43:09 +1200


*shrug* I guess I'll find that out for sure in the next couple of weeks. So far as I am aware there is no difference between an 89.5+ MA70 cross-member and a JZA70 cross-member.

What differences are there between a JZA70 and an MA70? Other than the engine and gearbox? Please list them.

Regards

Dave Thom
Technical Manager
Harvey Norman New Plymouth
027 344 3938
----- Original Message -----
From: john shannon
To: Supra Club of NZ Mailing List
Sent: Tuesday, May 09, 2006 12:37 PM
Subject: Re: [sconz] damn cheap jza70


lol now your taking the piss, you say just put a 1jz into a ma70 shell and thay are the same as a jza70 it will never be the same.




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From: "Looonie" <supras@boost.org.nz>
Reply-To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List" <sconz@list.supras.org.nz>
To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List" <sconz@list.supras.org.nz>
Subject: Re: [sconz] damn cheap jza70
Date: Tue, 9 May 2006 12:29:41 +1200


Hunt, why do you need a x-member? And since when do they cost $500? Mine just sold for about $11 on trademe.

As for the labour, I never account for that as its my own personal time and a labour of love. Obviously if you were paying somebody to do this conversion for you it would probably gear closer to $10,000.

As for it not being as good as a stock JZA70, I'd dispute that as there would be no difference (dependant on the intercooler you used obviously).

Regards

Dave Thom
Technical Manager
Harvey Norman New Plymouth
027 344 3938
----- Original Message -----
From: Hunt M
To: Supra Club of NZ Mailing List
Sent: Tuesday, May 09, 2006 12:23 PM
Subject: RE: [sconz] damn cheap jza70


Lets see
$1500 for 1JZ with auto box

$500 for x-member

$1500 for MA70 shell.

20 hours labour at $50 per hour = $1000



Oh look at that - $4,500 and you just know its not going to be as good as a stock JZA




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From: bounce-54893-72@list.supras.org.nz [mailto:bounce-54893-72@list.supras.org.nz] On Behalf Of Looonie
Sent: Tuesday, 9 May 2006 12:05 p.m.
To: Supra Club of NZ Mailing List
Subject: Re: [sconz] damn cheap jza70



How on earth do you figure it will cost more than $4000 to put a $1500 1JZ-GTE with auto box, loom and ECU into an 86 MA70?


Regards



Dave Thom
Technical Manager
Harvey Norman New Plymouth
027 344 3938

----- Original Message -----

From: john shannon

To: Supra Club of NZ Mailing List

Sent: Tuesday, May 09, 2006 12:01 PM

Subject: Re: [sconz] damn cheap jza70



It still cost you more than $4000 to do thats, and it still will not be a jza70, i paid $11,500 for mine and i think its worth every cent to me, you try to find a 280hp stock car for less than $4000.


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From: "Looonie" <supras@boost.org.nz>
Reply-To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List" <sconz@list.supras.org.nz>
To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List" <sconz@list.supras.org.nz>
Subject: Re: [sconz] damn cheap jza70
Date: Tue, 9 May 2006 11:13:19 +1200
>I guess I should start buying $500 86 supras and banging in $1500
>automatic 1JZ-GTE's and selling them for $4,000 as everyone
>obviously thinks they're worth that :)
>
>I'm not detracting from the car at all, I think its a bloody nice
>car, and its a fair price for the vehicle. I'm disputing however
>that its "cheap". MKIII's are just overpriced which is why this
>looks "cheap".
>
>Regards
>
>Dave Thom
>Technical Manager
>Harvey Norman New Plymouth
>027 344 3938
>----- Original Message ----- From: "Darcy Cresswell"
><dlc702@hotmail.com>
>To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List" <sconz@list.supras.org.nz>
>Sent: Tuesday, May 09, 2006 11:06 AM
>Subject: Re: [sconz] damn cheap jza70
>
>
>>Id happily pay $4000 for any (driveable) car with a good running
>>1jz-gte!!
>>
>>----Original Message Follows----
>>From: "Looonie" <supras@boost.org.nz>
>>Reply-To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List"
>><sconz@list.supras.org.nz>
>>To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List" <sconz@list.supras.org.nz>
>>Subject: Re: [sconz] damn cheap jza70
>>Date: Tue, 9 May 2006 10:38:40 +1200
>>
>>So you'd happily pay $4,500 for any 14 year old car so long as its
>>in tidy condition?
>>
>>Regards
>>
>>Dave Thom
>>Technical Manager
>>Harvey Norman New Plymouth
>>027 344 3938
>>----- Original Message ----- From: "Hunt M" <5uprah@supras.co.nz>
>>To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List" <sconz@list.supras.org.nz>
>>Sent: Tuesday, May 09, 2006 10:29 AM
>>Subject: RE: [sconz] damn cheap jza70
>>
>>
>>>Not really - it seems like a pretty nice example.
>>>
>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>From: bounce-54882-72@list.supras.org.nz
>>>[mailto:bounce-54882-72@list.supras.org.nz] On Behalf Of Looonie
>>>Sent: Tuesday, 9 May 2006 9:05 a.m.
>>>To: Supra Club of NZ Mailing List
>>>Subject: Re: [sconz] damn cheap jza70
>>>
>>>Sorry, too early in the morning for my brain to activate (not that
>>>it ever
>>>does)...
>>>
>>>14 year old car :)
>>>
>>>Regards
>>>
>>>Dave Thom
>>>Technical Manager
>>>Harvey Norman New Plymouth
>>>027 344 3938
>>>----- Original Message ----- From: "Peter Nield (DSL AK)"
>>><PeterN@datacom.co.nz>
>>>To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List" <sconz@list.supras.org.nz>
>>>Sent: Tuesday, May 09, 2006 8:55 AM
>>>Subject: RE: [sconz] damn cheap jza70
>>>
>>>
>>>24 years old? A typo perhaps?
>>>
>>>________________________________
>>>
>>>From: bounce-54880-33@list.supras.org.nz on behalf of Looonie
>>>Sent: Tue 9/05/2006 08:41
>>>To: Supra Club of NZ Mailing List
>>>Subject: Re: [sconz] damn cheap jza70
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>Not really, thats expensive for a automatic 24 year old car.
>>>
>>>Regards
>>>
>>>Dave Thom
>>>Technical Manager
>>>027 344 3938
>>>----- Original Message -----
>>>From: "Matthew Adair" <prisoner45@hotmail.com>
>>>To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List" <sconz@list.supras.org.nz>
>>>Sent: Monday, May 08, 2006 6:31 PM
>>>Subject: [sconz] damn cheap jza70
>>>
>>>
>>>>http://www.trademe.co.nz/Trade-Me-Motors/Cars/Toyota/auction-56086692.htm
>>>>
>>>>damn thats cheap
>>>>---
>>>>Supra Club of New Zealand - http://www.supras.org.nz/
>>>>Website sponsored by Alltech Diesel & Turbocharger
>>>>http://www.turbo.co.nz
>>>>
>>>
>>>
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>>>
>>>
>>>
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damn cheap jza70   2006-05-09 13:43:00 <Suze>
but there's nothing like the experience of replacing the original oem
gasket in a 7m!!!

7m powah! yea baby


hows that for running off topic :P

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RE: damn cheap jza70   2006-05-09 13:43:00 <Cully Paterson>

> From: Looonie [mailto:supras@boost.org.nz]
> Sent: Tuesday, 9 May 2006 1:39 p.m.
> To: SCONZ.list Forward
> Subject: Re: [sconz] damn cheap jza70


> If you built a GTS-4 with ALL the GTR stuff on it, then sure
it'd be worth
>about as much as a GTR in the same condition, providing the panel work
had all
>been carried out professionally and to an OEM or higher standard.


That simply proves one thing Dave: You've got the word SUCKER written
across your forehead in very large letters.


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Re: damn cheap jza70   2006-05-09 13:44:00 <john shannon>

still lmao sorry dud but i think this if very funny.


From: "Looonie" <supras@boost.org.nz>
Reply-To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List" <sconz@list.supras.org.nz>
To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List" <sconz@list.supras.org.nz>
Subject: Re: [sconz] damn cheap jza70
Date: Tue, 9 May 2006 13:38:52 +1200

If you built a GTS-4 with ALL the GTR stuff on it, then sure it'd be worth about as much as a GTR in the same condition, providing the panel work had all been carried out professionally and to an OEM or higher standard.

However as I said, the differences between a GTS-4 and a GTR are far more substantial than a MA70 and a JZA70. The Skylines are essentially completely different cars, where as again, as far as I am aware, the only differences between an MA70 and a JZA70 is the engine and gearbox etc.

Regards
 
Dave Thom
Technical Manager
027 344 3938
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, May 09, 2006 1:22 PM
Subject: Re: [sconz] damn cheap jza70

Thats what i am saying you would pay $20k for a genuine gtr but not a gts4 with all the gtr stuff on it.


From: "Looonie" <supras@boost.org.nz>
Reply-To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List" <sconz@list.supras.org.nz>
To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List" <sconz@list.supras.org.nz>
Subject: Re: [sconz] damn cheap jza70
Date: Tue, 9 May 2006 13:14:34 +1200

Not really the same at all John considering that a GTR has wider body guards, different seats, transmission, rear differential, gearbox...
 
Again the only differences that I'm aware of between an MA70 and a JZA70 of the same vintage is the engine and gearbox (and intercooler, power steering lines, loom, ecu, torque converter... )
 
So you're still not making a valid point with facts.
 
Also I doubt anyone could get $20,000+ for a GTS4 with an RB26 (assuming we're talking R32 chassis here) considering the genuine item is only just hitting that price for nice examples.

Regards
 
Dave Thom
Technical Manager
Harvey Norman New Plymouth
027 344 3938
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, May 09, 2006 1:09 PM
Subject: Re: [sconz] damn cheap jza70

so that be the same as spending $20,000+ on a gts4 with a rb26 in it i would want the real thing for that price would you.


From: "Looonie" <supras@boost.org.nz>
Reply-To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List" <sconz@list.supras.org.nz>
To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List" <sconz@list.supras.org.nz>
Subject: Re: [sconz] damn cheap jza70
Date: Tue, 9 May 2006 12:56:35 +1200

Don't see any reason why not, I'm not the kind of person who's fixated on over paying for a couple of letters stamped different on the firewall.

Regards
 
Dave Thom
Technical Manager
Harvey Norman New Plymouth
027 344 3938
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, May 09, 2006 12:50 PM
Subject: Re: [sconz] damn cheap jza70

all i can say on that one is, if you were looking to buy a jza70 would you pay the same for a ma70 with a 1jz in it.


From: "Looonie" <supras@boost.org.nz>
Reply-To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List" <sconz@list.supras.org.nz>
To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List" <sconz@list.supras.org.nz>
Subject: Re: [sconz] damn cheap jza70
Date: Tue, 9 May 2006 12:43:09 +1200

*shrug* I guess I'll find that out for sure in the next couple of weeks. So far as I am aware there is no difference between an 89.5+ MA70 cross-member and a JZA70 cross-member.
 
What differences are there between a JZA70 and an MA70?  Other than the engine and gearbox? Please list them.

Regards
 
Dave Thom
Technical Manager
Harvey Norman New Plymouth
027 344 3938
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, May 09, 2006 12:37 PM
Subject: Re: [sconz] damn cheap jza70

lol now your taking the piss, you say just put a 1jz into a ma70 shell and thay are the same as a jza70 it will never be the same.


From: "Looonie" <supras@boost.org.nz>
Reply-To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List" <sconz@list.supras.org.nz>
To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List" <sconz@list.supras.org.nz>
Subject: Re: [sconz] damn cheap jza70
Date: Tue, 9 May 2006 12:29:41 +1200

Hunt, why do you need a x-member? And since when do they cost $500? Mine just sold for about $11 on trademe.
 
As for the labour, I never account for that as its my own personal time and a labour of love. Obviously if you were paying somebody to do this conversion for you it would probably gear closer to $10,000.
 
As for it not being as good as a stock JZA70, I'd dispute that as there would be no difference (dependant on the intercooler you used obviously).

Regards
 
Dave Thom
Technical Manager
Harvey Norman New Plymouth
027 344 3938
----- Original Message -----
From: Hunt M
Sent: Tuesday, May 09, 2006 12:23 PM
Subject: RE: [sconz] damn cheap jza70

Lets see
$1500 for 1JZ with auto box

$500 for x-member

$1500 for MA70 shell.

20 hours labour at $50 per hour = $1000

 

Oh look at that – $4,500 and you just know its not going to be as good as a stock JZA

 


From: bounce-54893-72@list.supras.org.nz [mailto:bounce-54893-72@list.supras.org.nz] On Behalf Of Looonie
Sent: Tuesday, 9 May 2006 12:05 p.m.
To: Supra Club of NZ Mailing List
Subject: Re: [sconz] damn cheap jza70

 

How on earth do you figure it will cost more than $4000 to put a $1500 1JZ-GTE with auto box, loom and ECU into an 86 MA70?


Regards

 

Dave Thom
Technical Manager
Harvey Norman New Plymouth
027 344 3938

----- Original Message -----

From: john shannon

Sent: Tuesday, May 09, 2006 12:01 PM

Subject: Re: [sconz] damn cheap jza70

 

It still cost you more than $4000 to do thats, and it still will not be a jza70, i paid $11,500 for mine and i think its worth every cent to me, you try to find a 280hp stock car for less than $4000.


From:  "Looonie" <supras@boost.org.nz>
Reply-To:  "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List" <sconz@list.supras.org.nz>
To:  "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List" <sconz@list.supras.org.nz>
Subject:  Re: [sconz] damn cheap jza70
Date:  Tue, 9 May 2006 11:13:19 +1200
>I guess I should start buying $500 86 supras and banging in $1500
>automatic 1JZ-GTE's and selling them for $4,000 as everyone
>obviously thinks they're worth that :)
>
>I'm not detracting from the car at all, I think its a bloody nice
>car, and its a fair price for the vehicle. I'm disputing however
>that its "cheap". MKIII's are just overpriced which is why this
>looks "cheap".
>
>Regards
>
>Dave Thom
>Technical Manager
>Harvey Norman New Plymouth
>027 344 3938
>----- Original Message ----- From: "Darcy Cresswell"
><dlc702@hotmail.com>
>To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List" <sconz@list.supras.org.nz>
>Sent: Tuesday, May 09, 2006 11:06 AM
>Subject: Re: [sconz] damn cheap jza70
>
>
>>Id happily pay $4000 for any (driveable) car with a good running
>>1jz-gte!!
>>
>>----Original Message Follows----
>>From: "Looonie" <supras@boost.org.nz>
>>Reply-To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List"
>><sconz@list.supras.org.nz>
>>To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List" <sconz@list.supras.org.nz>
>>Subject: Re: [sconz] damn cheap jza70
>>Date: Tue, 9 May 2006 10:38:40 +1200
>>
>>So you'd happily pay $4,500 for any 14 year old car so long as its
>>in tidy condition?
>>
>>Regards
>>
>>Dave Thom
>>Technical Manager
>>Harvey Norman New Plymouth
>>027 344 3938
>>----- Original Message ----- From: "Hunt M" <5uprah@supras.co.nz>
>>To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List" <sconz@list.supras.org.nz>
>>Sent: Tuesday, May 09, 2006 10:29 AM
>>Subject: RE: [sconz] damn cheap jza70
>>
>>
>>>Not really - it seems like a pretty nice example.
>>>
>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>From: bounce-54882-72@list.supras.org.nz
>>>[mailto:bounce-54882-72@list.supras.org.nz] On Behalf Of Looonie
>>>Sent: Tuesday, 9 May 2006 9:05 a.m.
>>>To: Supra Club of NZ Mailing List
>>>Subject: Re: [sconz] damn cheap jza70
>>>
>>>Sorry, too early in the morning for my brain to activate (not that
>>>it ever
>>>does)...
>>>
>>>14 year old car :)
>>>
>>>Regards
>>>
>>>Dave Thom
>>>Technical Manager
>>>Harvey Norman New Plymouth
>>>027 344 3938
>>>----- Original Message ----- From: "Peter Nield (DSL AK)"
>>><PeterN@datacom.co.nz>
>>>To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List" <sconz@list.supras.org.nz>
>>>Sent: Tuesday, May 09, 2006 8:55 AM
>>>Subject: RE: [sconz] damn cheap jza70
>>>
>>>
>>>24 years old?  A typo perhaps?
>>>
>>>________________________________
>>>
>>>From: bounce-54880-33@list.supras.org.nz on behalf of Looonie
>>>Sent: Tue 9/05/2006 08:41
>>>To: Supra Club of NZ Mailing List
>>>Subject: Re: [sconz] damn cheap jza70
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>Not really, thats expensive for a automatic 24 year old car.
>>>
>>>Regards
>>>
>>>Dave Thom
>>>Technical Manager
>>>027 344 3938
>>>----- Original Message -----
>>>From: "Matthew Adair" <prisoner45@hotmail.com>
>>>To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List" <sconz@list.supras.org.nz>
>>>Sent: Monday, May 08, 2006 6:31 PM
>>>Subject: [sconz] damn cheap jza70
>>>
>>>
>>>>http://www.trademe.co.nz/Trade-Me-Motors/Cars/Toyota/auction-56086692.htm
>>>>
>>>>damn thats cheap
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Re: damn cheap jza70   2006-05-09 14:08:00 <Marc Archbold>

> MA70. Obviously the Turbo R has significant additional components that
> would
> incur extra cost.

FYI, Of the 2.5 Twin Turbo Model Line up, the 2.5 Twin Turbo-R was not the
most expensive model, it was the 2.5 TT Limited.
I have an original Sales brocure that lists models, options and costs in Yen.


- Marc
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Re: damn cheap jza70   2006-05-09 14:21:00 <Looonie>
Why is that Cully? What difference is there between two identical cars, but
one that has a GTS-4 VIN plate and one that has a GTR VIN plate?

Regards

Dave Thom
Technical Manager
Harvey Norman New Plymouth
027 344 3938
----- Original Message -----
From: "Cully Paterson" <Cully@supras.org.nz>
To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List" <sconz@list.supras.org.nz>
Sent: Tuesday, May 09, 2006 1:42 PM
Subject: RE: [sconz] damn cheap jza70



> From: Looonie [mailto:supras@boost.org.nz]
> Sent: Tuesday, 9 May 2006 1:39 p.m.
> To: SCONZ.list Forward
> Subject: Re: [sconz] damn cheap jza70


> If you built a GTS-4 with ALL the GTR stuff on it, then sure
it'd be worth
>about as much as a GTR in the same condition, providing the panel work
had all
>been carried out professionally and to an OEM or higher standard.


That simply proves one thing Dave: You've got the word SUCKER written
across your forehead in very large letters.



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RE: damn cheap jza70   2006-05-09 14:48:00 <Cully Paterson>


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Looonie [mailto:supras@boost.org.nz]
> Sent: Tuesday, 9 May 2006 2:21 p.m.
> To: SCONZ.list Forward
> Subject: Re: [sconz] damn cheap jza70
>
> Why is that Cully? What difference is there between two
> identical cars, but one that has a GTS-4 VIN plate and one
> that has a GTR VIN plate?


Are you really that dense? Did I completely waste my time giving you
that list of reasons why the value wouldn't be the same?

The world is full of people who are suckered into buying
replicas/recreations/repower jobs thinking that they're getting
something as good or 'special'. Reality of maximum possible value comes
down to two things:
1. VIN plate.
2. Improvements over stock condition/performance.

You can take a 1966 Mustang, make all the required changes to the
exhaust and intake, paint it black and gold and write GT-350 down the
side of it, but it'll never be a Shelby Hertz Mustang, and no one will
ever pay you a hundred grand for it, no matter what your attention to
detail is.

Now if you give it 800HP and brakes that actually work, then someone
*might* pay you a hundred thou for it, but sure as hell not because you
made it look like a Shelby Hertz car...

Reality is, it matters totally whether or not the vehicle is the "Real
Thing". Regards of how perfect a recreation is, it's not the real
thing, and the worlds' perception will never change.

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RE: damn cheap jza70   2006-05-09 15:11:00 <Adrian Watson>
Including buying the above mentioned donor car, mine has cost me somewhere
around $11,000. I will get some of that back if I can sell the 1JZ, R154,
and rolling body from the donor car
Cheers
Adrian W

-----Original Message-----
From: bounce-54900-1158@list.supras.org.nz
[mailto:bounce-54900-1158@list.supras.org.nz] On Behalf Of Looonie
Sent: Monday, 8 May 2006 5:28 p.m.
To: Supra Club of NZ Mailing List
Subject: Re: [sconz] damn cheap jza70

I don't believe I'm doing either. Having done a reasonable amount of
research into the costings of 1JZ-GTE's along with keeping a good eye on the

current market price of MKIII supras, and not being a complete pleb when it
comes to swapping bits and pieces around between cars.

I realise there are some things I'm overlooking like the difference in power

steering lines, engine accessories etc etc. But a base model JZA70 has
nothing different to 89+ MA70 bar the engine, bellhousing, torque converter,

bigger front mount and lack of an oil cooler, as far as I'm aware.

If anybody else would like to properly detail the conversion and costings,
please do as I'd be interested to know if anybody has concrete figures on
this matter.

Regards

Dave Thom
Technical Manager
Harvey Norman New Plymouth
027 344 3938
----- Original Message -----
From: "Marc Archbold" <marc.a@paradise.net.nz>
To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List" <sconz@list.supras.org.nz>
Sent: Tuesday, May 09, 2006 12:13 PM
Subject: Re: [sconz] damn cheap jza70


>
> You're under estimating the cost and over simplifying the conversion.
>
>
>> How on earth do you figure it will cost more than $4000 to put a $1500
>> 1JZ-GTE with auto box, loom and ECU into an 86 MA70?
>>
>> Regards
>>
>> Dave Thom
>> Technical Manager
>> Harvey Norman New Plymouth
>> 027 344 3938
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: john shannon
>> To: Supra Club of NZ Mailing List
>> Sent: Tuesday, May 09, 2006 12:01 PM
>> Subject: Re: [sconz] damn cheap jza70
>>
>>
>> It still cost you more than $4000 to do thats, and it still will not be
>> a jza70, i paid $11,500 for mine and i think its worth every cent to me,
>> you try to find a 280hp stock car for less than $4000.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --------------------------------------------------------
>> --------------------
>>
>> From: "Looonie" <supras@boost.org.nz>
>> Reply-To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List" <sconz@list.supras.org.nz>
>> To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List" <sconz@list.supras.org.nz>
>> Subject: Re: [sconz] damn cheap jza70
>> Date: Tue, 9 May 2006 11:13:19 +1200
>> >I guess I should start buying $500 86 supras and banging in $1500
>> >automatic 1JZ-GTE's and selling them for $4,000 as everyone
>> >obviously thinks they're worth that :)
>> >
>> >I'm not detracting from the car at all, I think its a bloody nice
>> >car, and its a fair price for the vehicle. I'm disputing however
>> >that its "cheap". MKIII's are just overpriced which is why this
>> >looks "cheap".
>> >
>> >Regards
>> >
>> >Dave Thom
>> >Technical Manager
>> >Harvey Norman New Plymouth
>> >027 344 3938
>> >----- Original Message ----- From: "Darcy Cresswell"
>> ><dlc702@hotmail.com>
>> >To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List" <sconz@list.supras.org.nz>
>> >Sent: Tuesday, May 09, 2006 11:06 AM
>> >Subject: Re: [sconz] damn cheap jza70
>> >
>> >
>> >>Id happily pay $4000 for any (driveable) car with a good running
>> >>1jz-gte!!
>> >>
>> >>----Original Message Follows----
>> >>From: "Looonie" <supras@boost.org.nz>
>> >>Reply-To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List"
>> >><sconz@list.supras.org.nz>
>> >>To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List" <sconz@list.supras.org.nz>
>> >>Subject: Re: [sconz] damn cheap jza70
>> >>Date: Tue, 9 May 2006 10:38:40 +1200
>> >>
>> >>So you'd happily pay $4,500 for any 14 year old car so long as its
>> >>in tidy condition?
>> >>
>> >>Regards
>> >>
>> >>Dave Thom
>> >>Technical Manager
>> >>Harvey Norman New Plymouth
>> >>027 344 3938
>> >>----- Original Message ----- From: "Hunt M" <5uprah@supras.co.nz>
>> >>To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List" <sconz@list.supras.org.nz>
>> >>Sent: Tuesday, May 09, 2006 10:29 AM
>> >>Subject: RE: [sconz] damn cheap jza70
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>>Not really - it seems like a pretty nice example.
>> >>>
>> >>>-----Original Message-----
>> >>>From: bounce-54882-72@list.supras.org.nz
>> >>>[mailto:bounce-54882-72@list.supras.org.nz] On Behalf Of Looonie
>> >>>Sent: Tuesday, 9 May 2006 9:05 a.m.
>> >>>To: Supra Club of NZ Mailing List
>> >>>Subject: Re: [sconz] damn cheap jza70
>> >>>
>> >>>Sorry, too early in the morning for my brain to activate (not that
>> >>>it ever
>> >>>does)...
>> >>>
>> >>>14 year old car :)
>> >>>
>> >>>Regards
>> >>>
>> >>>Dave Thom
>> >>>Technical Manager
>> >>>Harvey Norman New Plymouth
>> >>>027 344 3938
>> >>>----- Original Message ----- From: "Peter Nield (DSL AK)"
>> >>><PeterN@datacom.co.nz>
>> >>>To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List" <sconz@list.supras.org.nz>
>> >>>Sent: Tuesday, May 09, 2006 8:55 AM
>> >>>Subject: RE: [sconz] damn cheap jza70
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>24 years old? A typo perhaps?
>> >>>
>> >>>________________________________
>> >>>
>> >>>From: bounce-54880-33@list.supras.org.nz on behalf of Looonie
>> >>>Sent: Tue 9/05/2006 08:41
>> >>>To: Supra Club of NZ Mailing List
>> >>>Subject: Re: [sconz] damn cheap jza70
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>Not really, thats expensive for a automatic 24 year old car.
>> >>>
>> >>>Regards
>> >>>
>> >>>Dave Thom
>> >>>Technical Manager
>> >>>027 344 3938
>> >>>----- Original Message -----
>> >>>From: "Matthew Adair" <prisoner45@hotmail.com>
>> >>>To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List" <sconz@list.supras.org.nz>
>> >>>Sent: Monday, May 08, 2006 6:31 PM
>> >>>Subject: [sconz] damn cheap jza70
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>>http://www.trademe.co.nz/Trade-Me-Motors/Cars/Toyota/auction-
> 56086692.htm
>> >>>>
>> >>>>damn thats cheap
>> >>>>---
>> >>>>Supra Club of New Zealand - http://www.supras.org.nz/
>> >>>>Website sponsored by Alltech Diesel & Turbocharger
>> >>>>http://www.turbo.co.nz
>> >>>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>---
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>> >>>Website sponsored by Alltech Diesel & Turbocharger
>> >>>http://www.turbo.co.nz
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>---
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>> >>>Website sponsored by Alltech Diesel & Turbocharger
>> >>>http://www.turbo.co.nz
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>---
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>> >>>Website sponsored by Alltech Diesel & Turbocharger
>> >>>http://www.turbo.co.nz
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>---
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>> >>>Website sponsored by Alltech Diesel & Turbocharger
>> >>>http://www.turbo.co.nz
>> >>>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>---
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>> >>Website sponsored by Alltech Diesel & Turbocharger
>> >>http://www.turbo.co.nz
>> >>
>> >>_________________________________________________________________
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>> >>
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>> >>
>> >
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Re: damn cheap jza70   2006-05-09 15:15:00 <Looonie>
Congratulations on having $11,000 to waste on a car I guess. So long as
you're happy with the outcome of your hard earned dollars, as thats really
all that matters when it comes down to it.

Regards

Dave Thom
Technical Manager
Harvey Norman New Plymouth
027 344 3938
----- Original Message -----
From: "Adrian Watson" <adrianwatson01@gmail.com>
To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List" <sconz@list.supras.org.nz>
Sent: Wednesday, May 10, 2006 10:10 AM
Subject: RE: [sconz] damn cheap jza70


> Including buying the above mentioned donor car, mine has cost me somewhere
> around $11,000. I will get some of that back if I can sell the 1JZ, R154,
> and rolling body from the donor car
> Cheers
> Adrian W
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: bounce-54900-1158@list.supras.org.nz
> [mailto:bounce-54900-1158@list.supras.org.nz] On Behalf Of Looonie
> Sent: Monday, 8 May 2006 5:28 p.m.
> To: Supra Club of NZ Mailing List
> Subject: Re: [sconz] damn cheap jza70
>
> I don't believe I'm doing either. Having done a reasonable amount of
> research into the costings of 1JZ-GTE's along with keeping a good eye on
> the
>
> current market price of MKIII supras, and not being a complete pleb when
> it
> comes to swapping bits and pieces around between cars.
>
> I realise there are some things I'm overlooking like the difference in
> power
>
> steering lines, engine accessories etc etc. But a base model JZA70 has
> nothing different to 89+ MA70 bar the engine, bellhousing, torque
> converter,
>
> bigger front mount and lack of an oil cooler, as far as I'm aware.
>
> If anybody else would like to properly detail the conversion and costings,
> please do as I'd be interested to know if anybody has concrete figures on
> this matter.
>
> Regards
>
> Dave Thom
> Technical Manager
> Harvey Norman New Plymouth
> 027 344 3938
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Marc Archbold" <marc.a@paradise.net.nz>
> To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List" <sconz@list.supras.org.nz>
> Sent: Tuesday, May 09, 2006 12:13 PM
> Subject: Re: [sconz] damn cheap jza70
>
>
>>
>> You're under estimating the cost and over simplifying the conversion.
>>
>>
>>> How on earth do you figure it will cost more than $4000 to put a $1500
>>> 1JZ-GTE with auto box, loom and ECU into an 86 MA70?
>>>
>>> Regards
>>>
>>> Dave Thom
>>> Technical Manager
>>> Harvey Norman New Plymouth
>>> 027 344 3938
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: john shannon
>>> To: Supra Club of NZ Mailing List
>>> Sent: Tuesday, May 09, 2006 12:01 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [sconz] damn cheap jza70
>>>
>>>
>>> It still cost you more than $4000 to do thats, and it still will not be
>>> a jza70, i paid $11,500 for mine and i think its worth every cent to me,
>>> you try to find a 280hp stock car for less than $4000.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --------------------------------------------------------
>>> --------------------
>>>
>>> From: "Looonie" <supras@boost.org.nz>
>>> Reply-To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List" <sconz@list.supras.org.nz>
>>> To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List" <sconz@list.supras.org.nz>
>>> Subject: Re: [sconz] damn cheap jza70
>>> Date: Tue, 9 May 2006 11:13:19 +1200
>>> >I guess I should start buying $500 86 supras and banging in $1500
>>> >automatic 1JZ-GTE's and selling them for $4,000 as everyone
>>> >obviously thinks they're worth that :)
>>> >
>>> >I'm not detracting from the car at all, I think its a bloody nice
>>> >car, and its a fair price for the vehicle. I'm disputing however
>>> >that its "cheap". MKIII's are just overpriced which is why this
>>> >looks "cheap".
>>> >
>>> >Regards
>>> >
>>> >Dave Thom
>>> >Technical Manager
>>> >Harvey Norman New Plymouth
>>> >027 344 3938
>>> >----- Original Message ----- From: "Darcy Cresswell"
>>> ><dlc702@hotmail.com>
>>> >To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List" <sconz@list.supras.org.nz>
>>> >Sent: Tuesday, May 09, 2006 11:06 AM
>>> >Subject: Re: [sconz] damn cheap jza70
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >>Id happily pay $4000 for any (driveable) car with a good running
>>> >>1jz-gte!!
>>> >>
>>> >>----Original Message Follows----
>>> >>From: "Looonie" <supras@boost.org.nz>
>>> >>Reply-To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List"
>>> >><sconz@list.supras.org.nz>
>>> >>To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List" <sconz@list.supras.org.nz>
>>> >>Subject: Re: [sconz] damn cheap jza70
>>> >>Date: Tue, 9 May 2006 10:38:40 +1200
>>> >>
>>> >>So you'd happily pay $4,500 for any 14 year old car so long as its
>>> >>in tidy condition?
>>> >>
>>> >>Regards
>>> >>
>>> >>Dave Thom
>>> >>Technical Manager
>>> >>Harvey Norman New Plymouth
>>> >>027 344 3938
>>> >>----- Original Message ----- From: "Hunt M" <5uprah@supras.co.nz>
>>> >>To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List" <sconz@list.supras.org.nz>
>>> >>Sent: Tuesday, May 09, 2006 10:29 AM
>>> >>Subject: RE: [sconz] damn cheap jza70
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>>Not really - it seems like a pretty nice example.
>>> >>>
>>> >>>-----Original Message-----
>>> >>>From: bounce-54882-72@list.supras.org.nz
>>> >>>[mailto:bounce-54882-72@list.supras.org.nz] On Behalf Of Looonie
>>> >>>Sent: Tuesday, 9 May 2006 9:05 a.m.
>>> >>>To: Supra Club of NZ Mailing List
>>> >>>Subject: Re: [sconz] damn cheap jza70
>>> >>>
>>> >>>Sorry, too early in the morning for my brain to activate (not that
>>> >>>it ever
>>> >>>does)...
>>> >>>
>>> >>>14 year old car :)
>>> >>>
>>> >>>Regards
>>> >>>
>>> >>>Dave Thom
>>> >>>Technical Manager
>>> >>>Harvey Norman New Plymouth
>>> >>>027 344 3938
>>> >>>----- Original Message ----- From: "Peter Nield (DSL AK)"
>>> >>><PeterN@datacom.co.nz>
>>> >>>To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List" <sconz@list.supras.org.nz>
>>> >>>Sent: Tuesday, May 09, 2006 8:55 AM
>>> >>>Subject: RE: [sconz] damn cheap jza70
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>>24 years old? A typo perhaps?
>>> >>>
>>> >>>________________________________
>>> >>>
>>> >>>From: bounce-54880-33@list.supras.org.nz on behalf of Looonie
>>> >>>Sent: Tue 9/05/2006 08:41
>>> >>>To: Supra Club of NZ Mailing List
>>> >>>Subject: Re: [sconz] damn cheap jza70
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>>Not really, thats expensive for a automatic 24 year old car.
>>> >>>
>>> >>>Regards
>>> >>>
>>> >>>Dave Thom
>>> >>>Technical Manager
>>> >>>027 344 3938
>>> >>>----- Original Message -----
>>> >>>From: "Matthew Adair" <prisoner45@hotmail.com>
>>> >>>To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List" <sconz@list.supras.org.nz>
>>> >>>Sent: Monday, May 08, 2006 6:31 PM
>>> >>>Subject: [sconz] damn cheap jza70
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>>>http://www.trademe.co.nz/Trade-Me-Motors/Cars/Toyota/auction-
>> 56086692.htm
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>>damn thats cheap
>>> >>>>---
>>> >>>>Supra Club of New Zealand - http://www.supras.org.nz/
>>> >>>>Website sponsored by Alltech Diesel & Turbocharger
>>> >>>>http://www.turbo.co.nz
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>>---
>>> >>>Supra Club of New Zealand - http://www.supras.org.nz/
>>> >>>Website sponsored by Alltech Diesel & Turbocharger
>>> >>>http://www.turbo.co.nz
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>>---
>>> >>>Supra Club of New Zealand - http://www.supras.org.nz/
>>> >>>Website sponsored by Alltech Diesel & Turbocharger
>>> >>>http://www.turbo.co.nz
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>>---
>>> >>>Supra Club of New Zealand - http://www.supras.org.nz/
>>> >>>Website sponsored by Alltech Diesel & Turbocharger
>>> >>>http://www.turbo.co.nz
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>>---
>>> >>>Supra Club of New Zealand - http://www.supras.org.nz/
>>> >>>Website sponsored by Alltech Diesel & Turbocharger
>>> >>>http://www.turbo.co.nz
>>> >>>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>---
>>> >>Supra Club of New Zealand - http://www.supras.org.nz/
>>> >>Website sponsored by Alltech Diesel & Turbocharger
>>> >>http://www.turbo.co.nz
>>> >>
>>> >>_________________________________________________________________
>>> >>Read the latest Hollywood gossip @
>>> >>http://xtramsn.co.nz/entertainment
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>---
>>> >>Supra Club of New Zealand - http://www.supras.org.nz/
>>> >>Website sponsored by Alltech Diesel & Turbocharger
>>> >>http://www.turbo.co.nz
>>> >>
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >---
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>>> >Website sponsored by Alltech Diesel & Turbocharger
>>> >http://www.turbo.co.nz
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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>>
>
>
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>
>
> ---
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RE: damn cheap jza70   2006-05-09 15:23:00 <Adrian Watson>
It has been an almost 18 month build, I brought the donor car, which has put
the cost up considerably, to get all the parts that are hard to find. Like
you said it is a labour of love, and after driving the Turbo R, I believe I
will be happy with the outcome, if not then I have had a lot of fun, and
learnt a lot with that $11,000

-----Original Message-----
From: bounce-54956-1158@list.supras.org.nz
[mailto:bounce-54956-1158@list.supras.org.nz] On Behalf Of Looonie
Sent: Monday, 8 May 2006 8:15 p.m.
To: Supra Club of NZ Mailing List
Subject: Re: [sconz] damn cheap jza70

Congratulations on having $11,000 to waste on a car I guess. So long as
you're happy with the outcome of your hard earned dollars, as thats really
all that matters when it comes down to it.

Regards

Dave Thom
Technical Manager
Harvey Norman New Plymouth
027 344 3938
----- Original Message -----
From: "Adrian Watson" <adrianwatson01@gmail.com>
To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List" <sconz@list.supras.org.nz>
Sent: Wednesday, May 10, 2006 10:10 AM
Subject: RE: [sconz] damn cheap jza70


> Including buying the above mentioned donor car, mine has cost me somewhere
> around $11,000. I will get some of that back if I can sell the 1JZ, R154,
> and rolling body from the donor car
> Cheers
> Adrian W
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: bounce-54900-1158@list.supras.org.nz
> [mailto:bounce-54900-1158@list.supras.org.nz] On Behalf Of Looonie
> Sent: Monday, 8 May 2006 5:28 p.m.
> To: Supra Club of NZ Mailing List
> Subject: Re: [sconz] damn cheap jza70
>
> I don't believe I'm doing either. Having done a reasonable amount of
> research into the costings of 1JZ-GTE's along with keeping a good eye on
> the
>
> current market price of MKIII supras, and not being a complete pleb when
> it
> comes to swapping bits and pieces around between cars.
>
> I realise there are some things I'm overlooking like the difference in
> power
>
> steering lines, engine accessories etc etc. But a base model JZA70 has
> nothing different to 89+ MA70 bar the engine, bellhousing, torque
> converter,
>
> bigger front mount and lack of an oil cooler, as far as I'm aware.
>
> If anybody else would like to properly detail the conversion and costings,
> please do as I'd be interested to know if anybody has concrete figures on
> this matter.
>
> Regards
>
> Dave Thom
> Technical Manager
> Harvey Norman New Plymouth
> 027 344 3938
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Marc Archbold" <marc.a@paradise.net.nz>
> To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List" <sconz@list.supras.org.nz>
> Sent: Tuesday, May 09, 2006 12:13 PM
> Subject: Re: [sconz] damn cheap jza70
>
>
>>
>> You're under estimating the cost and over simplifying the conversion.
>>
>>
>>> How on earth do you figure it will cost more than $4000 to put a $1500
>>> 1JZ-GTE with auto box, loom and ECU into an 86 MA70?
>>>
>>> Regards
>>>
>>> Dave Thom
>>> Technical Manager
>>> Harvey Norman New Plymouth
>>> 027 344 3938
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: john shannon
>>> To: Supra Club of NZ Mailing List
>>> Sent: Tuesday, May 09, 2006 12:01 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [sconz] damn cheap jza70
>>>
>>>
>>> It still cost you more than $4000 to do thats, and it still will not be
>>> a jza70, i paid $11,500 for mine and i think its worth every cent to me,
>>> you try to find a 280hp stock car for less than $4000.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --------------------------------------------------------
>>> --------------------
>>>
>>> From: "Looonie" <supras@boost.org.nz>
>>> Reply-To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List" <sconz@list.supras.org.nz>
>>> To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List" <sconz@list.supras.org.nz>
>>> Subject: Re: [sconz] damn cheap jza70
>>> Date: Tue, 9 May 2006 11:13:19 +1200
>>> >I guess I should start buying $500 86 supras and banging in $1500
>>> >automatic 1JZ-GTE's and selling them for $4,000 as everyone
>>> >obviously thinks they're worth that :)
>>> >
>>> >I'm not detracting from the car at all, I think its a bloody nice
>>> >car, and its a fair price for the vehicle. I'm disputing however
>>> >that its "cheap". MKIII's are just overpriced which is why this
>>> >looks "cheap".
>>> >
>>> >Regards
>>> >
>>> >Dave Thom
>>> >Technical Manager
>>> >Harvey Norman New Plymouth
>>> >027 344 3938
>>> >----- Original Message ----- From: "Darcy Cresswell"
>>> ><dlc702@hotmail.com>
>>> >To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List" <sconz@list.supras.org.nz>
>>> >Sent: Tuesday, May 09, 2006 11:06 AM
>>> >Subject: Re: [sconz] damn cheap jza70
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >>Id happily pay $4000 for any (driveable) car with a good running
>>> >>1jz-gte!!
>>> >>
>>> >>----Original Message Follows----
>>> >>From: "Looonie" <supras@boost.org.nz>
>>> >>Reply-To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List"
>>> >><sconz@list.supras.org.nz>
>>> >>To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List" <sconz@list.supras.org.nz>
>>> >>Subject: Re: [sconz] damn cheap jza70
>>> >>Date: Tue, 9 May 2006 10:38:40 +1200
>>> >>
>>> >>So you'd happily pay $4,500 for any 14 year old car so long as its
>>> >>in tidy condition?
>>> >>
>>> >>Regards
>>> >>
>>> >>Dave Thom
>>> >>Technical Manager
>>> >>Harvey Norman New Plymouth
>>> >>027 344 3938
>>> >>----- Original Message ----- From: "Hunt M" <5uprah@supras.co.nz>
>>> >>To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List" <sconz@list.supras.org.nz>
>>> >>Sent: Tuesday, May 09, 2006 10:29 AM
>>> >>Subject: RE: [sconz] damn cheap jza70
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>>Not really - it seems like a pretty nice example.
>>> >>>
>>> >>>-----Original Message-----
>>> >>>From: bounce-54882-72@list.supras.org.nz
>>> >>>[mailto:bounce-54882-72@list.supras.org.nz] On Behalf Of Looonie
>>> >>>Sent: Tuesday, 9 May 2006 9:05 a.m.
>>> >>>To: Supra Club of NZ Mailing List
>>> >>>Subject: Re: [sconz] damn cheap jza70
>>> >>>
>>> >>>Sorry, too early in the morning for my brain to activate (not that
>>> >>>it ever
>>> >>>does)...
>>> >>>
>>> >>>14 year old car :)
>>> >>>
>>> >>>Regards
>>> >>>
>>> >>>Dave Thom
>>> >>>Technical Manager
>>> >>>Harvey Norman New Plymouth
>>> >>>027 344 3938
>>> >>>----- Original Message ----- From: "Peter Nield (DSL AK)"
>>> >>><PeterN@datacom.co.nz>
>>> >>>To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List" <sconz@list.supras.org.nz>
>>> >>>Sent: Tuesday, May 09, 2006 8:55 AM
>>> >>>Subject: RE: [sconz] damn cheap jza70
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>>24 years old? A typo perhaps?
>>> >>>
>>> >>>________________________________
>>> >>>
>>> >>>From: bounce-54880-33@list.supras.org.nz on behalf of Looonie
>>> >>>Sent: Tue 9/05/2006 08:41
>>> >>>To: Supra Club of NZ Mailing List
>>> >>>Subject: Re: [sconz] damn cheap jza70
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>>Not really, thats expensive for a automatic 24 year old car.
>>> >>>
>>> >>>Regards
>>> >>>
>>> >>>Dave Thom
>>> >>>Technical Manager
>>> >>>027 344 3938
>>> >>>----- Original Message -----
>>> >>>From: "Matthew Adair" <prisoner45@hotmail.com>
>>> >>>To: "Supra Club of NZ Mailing List" <sconz@list.supras.org.nz>
>>> >>>Sent: Monday, May 08, 2006 6:31 PM
>>> >>>Subject: [sconz] damn cheap jza70
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>>>http://www.trademe.co.nz/Trade-Me-Motors/Cars/Toyota/auction-
>> 56086692.htm
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>>damn thats cheap
>>> >>>>---
>>> >>>>Supra Club of New Zealand - http://www.supras.org.nz/
>>> >>>>Website sponsored by Alltech Diesel & Turbocharger
>>> >>>>http://www.turbo.co.nz
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>>---
>>> >>>Supra Club of New Zealand - http://www.supras.org.nz/
>>> >>>Website sponsored by Alltech Diesel & Turbocharger
>>> >>>http://www.turbo.co.nz
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>>---
>>> >>>Supra Club of New Zealand - http://www.supras.org.nz/
>>> >>>Website sponsored by Alltech Diesel & Turbocharger
>>> >>>http://www.turbo.co.nz
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>>---
>>> >>>Supra Club of New Zealand - http://www.supras.org.nz/
>>> >>>Website sponsored by Alltech Diesel & Turbocharger
>>> >>>http://www.turbo.co.nz
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>>---
>>> >>>Supra Club of New Zealand - http://www.supras.org.nz/
>>> >>>Website sponsored by Alltech Diesel & Turbocharger
>>> >>>http://www.turbo.co.nz
>>> >>>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>---
>>> >>Supra Club of New Zealand - http://www.supras.org.nz/
>>> >>Website sponsored by Alltech Diesel & Turbocharger
>>> >>http://www.turbo.co.nz
>>> >>
>>> >>_________________________________________________________________
>>> >>Read the latest Hollywood gossip @
>>> >>http://xtramsn.co.nz/entertainment
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>---
>>> >>Supra Club of New Zealand - http://www.supras.org.nz/
>>> >>Website sponsored by Alltech Diesel & Turbocharger
>>> >>http://www.turbo.co.nz
>>> >>
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >---
>>> >Supra Club of New Zealand - http://www.supras.org.nz/
>>> >Website sponsored by Alltech Diesel & Turbocharger
>>> >http://www.turbo.co.nz
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>
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>> -
>>> Shop 'til you drop at XtraMSN Shopping ---
>>> Supra Club of New Zealand - http://www.supras.org.nz/
>>> Website sponsored by Alltech Diesel & Turbocharger
>>> http://www.turbo.co.nz
>>> ---
>>> Supra Club of New Zealand - http://www.supras.org.nz/
>>> Website sponsored by Alltech Diesel & Turbocharger
>>> http://www.turbo.co.nz
>>
>>
>> ---
>> Supra Club of New Zealand - http://www.supras.org.nz/
>> Website sponsored by Alltech Diesel & Turbocharger http://www.turbo.co.nz
>>
>
>
> ---
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> Website sponsored by Alltech Diesel & Turbocharger http://www.turbo.co.nz
>
>
> ---
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> Website sponsored by Alltech Diesel & Turbocharger http://www.turbo.co.nz
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RE: damn cheap jza70   2006-05-09 17:36:00 <Matthew Adair>
what a stupid argument.
if you arent interested in buying it shut up, i was just trying to point out a nice example for a really good price.
if i had $4800 id buy it.

This is a supra club is it not? i thought people on here wouldve understood the value of that car.

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Re: damn cheap jza70   2006-05-19 08:22:00 <qzm>
On 5/9/06, Marc Archbold <marc.a@paradise.net.nz> wrote:
>
>
> > MA70. Obviously the Turbo R has significant additional components that
> > would
> > incur extra cost.
>
> FYI, Of the 2.5 Twin Turbo Model Line up, the 2.5 Twin Turbo-R was not the
> most expensive model, it was the 2.5 TT Limited.
> I have an original Sales brocure that lists models, options and costs in
> Yen.
>

Quite. the 2.5 TT-R was a 'budget' model for the younger buyer. sported up
and optioned down.

Regards,
Stuart W.

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Re: damn cheap jza70   2006-05-19 09:15:00 <Marc Archbold>
>
> Quite. the 2.5 TT-R was a 'budget' model for the younger buyer. sported
> up
> and optioned down.
>
> Regards,
> Stuart W.

Although I must point out that the 2.5TT-R was not the cheapest either.
There was a no-frills model of less cost in the line up. I'll scan the
price/options sheet and put it up on the group site (thanks Cully) in the next
couple of days.

If there's interest - I could get the entire brochure scanned.

Cheers,
Marc


>
> ---
> Supra Club of New Zealand - http://www.supras.org.nz/
> Website sponsored by Alltech Diesel & Turbocharger
> http://www.turbo.co.nz

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Re: damn cheap jza70   2006-05-19 10:21:00 <Suze>
yea that would be awesome if we could get prices of them in the day
does it have ga70 & ma70 prices too?

Cheers

Suze



On 5/19/06, Marc Archbold <marc.a@paradise.net.nz> wrote:
>
> >
> > Quite. the 2.5 TT-R was a 'budget' model for the younger buyer. sported
> > up
> > and optioned down.
> >
> > Regards,
> > Stuart W.
>
> Although I must point out that the 2.5TT-R was not the cheapest either.
> There was a no-frills model of less cost in the line up. I'll scan the
> price/options sheet and put it up on the group site (thanks Cully) in the
> next
> couple of days.
>
> If there's interest - I could get the entire brochure scanned.
>
> Cheers,
> Marc
>
>
> >
> > ---
> > Supra Club of New Zealand - http://www.supras.org.nz/
> > Website sponsored by Alltech Diesel & Turbocharger
> > http://www.turbo.co.nz
>
>
> ---
> Supra Club of New Zealand - http://www.supras.org.nz/
> Website sponsored by Alltech Diesel & Turbocharger http://www.turbo.co.nz
>

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RE: damn cheap jza70   2006-05-19 10:33:00 <Doig, Richard>
Like here?



http://english.auto.vl.ru/catalog/toyota/supra/







________________________________

From: bounce-55594-27@list.supras.org.nz
[mailto:bounce-55594-27@list.supras.org.nz] On Behalf Of Suze
Sent: Friday, 19 May 2006 10:21 a.m.
To: Supra Club of NZ Mailing List
Subject: Re: [sconz] damn cheap jza70



yea that would be awesome if we could get prices of them in the day

does it have ga70 & ma70 prices too?



Cheers



Suze





On 5/19/06, Marc Archbold <marc.a@paradise.net.nz> wrote:

>
> Quite. the 2.5 TT-R was a 'budget' model for the younger buyer.
sported
> up
> and optioned down.
>
> Regards,
> Stuart W.

Although I must point out that the 2.5TT-R was not the cheapest either.
There was a no-frills model of less cost in the line up. I'll scan the
price/options sheet and put it up on the group site (thanks Cully) in
the next
couple of days.

If there's interest - I could get the entire brochure scanned.

Cheers,
Marc


>
> ---
> Supra Club of New Zealand - http://www.supras.org.nz/
> Website sponsored by Alltech Diesel & Turbocharger
> http://www.turbo.co.nz


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Re: damn cheap jza70   2006-05-19 10:34:00 <Marc Archbold>

> does it have ga70 & ma70 prices too?

There's a good reason why you would find MA70 pricing in the brochure: the
JZA70 replaced the MA70 lineup. But yes, the GA70 is listed, along with
options suchs as Mobile phone, ABS, SRS Airbag, Subwoofers, blue neons, etc.



Cheers,
Marc

>
> Cheers
>
> Suze
>
>
>
> On 5/19/06, Marc Archbold <marc.a@paradise.net.nz> wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > Quite. the 2.5 TT-R was a 'budget' model for the younger buyer.
> sported
> > > up
> > > and optioned down.
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > > Stuart W.
> >
> > Although I must point out that the 2.5TT-R was not the cheapest
> either.
> > There was a no-frills model of less cost in the line up. I'll scan
> the
> > price/options sheet and put it up on the group site (thanks Cully) in
> the
> > next
> > couple of days.
> >
> > If there's interest - I could get the entire brochure scanned.
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Marc
> >
> >
> > >
> > > ---
> > > Supra Club of New Zealand - http://www.supras.org.nz/
> > > Website sponsored by Alltech Diesel & Turbocharger
> > > http://www.turbo.co.nz
> >
> >
> > ---
> > Supra Club of New Zealand - http://www.supras.org.nz/
> > Website sponsored by Alltech Diesel & Turbocharger
> http://www.turbo.co.nz
> >
>
> ---
> Supra Club of New Zealand - http://www.supras.org.nz/
> Website sponsored by Alltech Diesel & Turbocharger
> http://www.turbo.co.nz

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RE: damn cheap jza70   2006-05-19 10:38:00 <Marc Archbold>


> Like here?
>
>
>
> http://english.auto.vl.ru/catalog/toyota/supra/
>

Interesting to compare against an official document. For instance the above
source does not list the SRS-Airbag as an option or cost.

Computer says no.

Cheers,
Marc


>
>
>
>
>
>
> ________________________________
>
> From: bounce-55594-27@list.supras.org.nz
> [mailto:bounce-55594-27@list.supras. org.nz] On Behalf Of Suze
> Sent: Friday, 19 May 2006 10:21 a.m.
> To: Supra Club of NZ Mailing List
> Subject: Re: [sconz] damn cheap jza70
>
>
>
> yea that would be awesome if we could get prices of them in the day
>
> does it have ga70 & ma70 prices too?
>
>
>
> Cheers
>
>
>
> Suze
>
>
>
>
>
> On 5/19/06, Marc Archbold <marc.a@paradise.net.nz> wrote:
>
> >
> > Quite. the 2.5 TT-R was a 'budget' model for the younger buyer.
> sported
> > up
> > and optioned down.
> >
> > Regards,
> > Stuart W.
>
> Although I must point out that the 2.5TT-R was not the cheapest either.
> There was a no-frills model of less cost in the line up. I'll scan the
> price/options sheet and put it up on the group site (thanks Cully) in
> the next
> couple of days.
>
> If there's interest - I could get the entire brochure scanned.
>
> Cheers,
> Marc
>

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RE: damn cheap jza70   2006-05-19 10:46:00 <Doig, Richard>
Yep, it is by no means a complete listing. It doesn't even list my GF's
1992 Jap Spec Civic.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: bounce-55597-27@list.supras.org.nz [mailto:bounce-55597-
> 27@list.supras.org.nz] On Behalf Of Marc Archbold
> Sent: Friday, 19 May 2006 10:38 a.m.
> To: Supra Club of NZ Mailing List
> Subject: RE: [sconz] damn cheap jza70
>
>
>
> > Like here?
> >
> >
> >
> > http://english.auto.vl.ru/catalog/toyota/supra/
> >
>
> Interesting to compare against an official document. For instance the
> above
> source does not list the SRS-Airbag as an option or cost.
>
> Computer says no.
>
> Cheers,
> Marc
>
>
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ________________________________
> >
> > From: bounce-55594-27@list.supras.org.nz
> > [mailto:bounce-55594-27@list.supras. org.nz] On Behalf Of Suze
> > Sent: Friday, 19 May 2006 10:21 a.m.
> > To: Supra Club of NZ Mailing List
> > Subject: Re: [sconz] damn cheap jza70
> >
> >
> >
> > yea that would be awesome if we could get prices of them in the day
> >
> > does it have ga70 & ma70 prices too?
> >
> >
> >
> > Cheers
> >
> >
> >
> > Suze
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On 5/19/06, Marc Archbold <marc.a@paradise.net.nz> wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > Quite. the 2.5 TT-R was a 'budget' model for the younger buyer.
> > sported
> > > up
> > > and optioned down.
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > > Stuart W.
> >
> > Although I must point out that the 2.5TT-R was not the cheapest
either.
> > There was a no-frills model of less cost in the line up. I'll scan
the
> > price/options sheet and put it up on the group site (thanks Cully)
in
> > the next
> > couple of days.
> >
> > If there's interest - I could get the entire brochure scanned.
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Marc
> >
>
>
> ---
> Supra Club of New Zealand - http://www.supras.org.nz/
> Website sponsored by Alltech Diesel & Turbocharger
http://www.turbo.co.nz
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